Can incorporeal undead see invisible characters?

[blope]

as the title says. Can anyone give me some clarification on this?

[DM Wellard]

Well invisible characters can't see each other..but if the Undead has life sense it should certainly know the general whereabouts of the character

[Neil Mansell]

I don't think so.
Invisibility is an illusion effect, incorporal creatures can't innately see through illusions (even undead arn't immune to illusions by the way), so I would suggest not.

[Abraham spalding]

They don't get the ability to "natural". Unless something specifically states otherwise it doesn't automatically see invisible creatures.

[james maissen]

blope wrote:

as the title says. Can anyone give me some clarification on this?

The best that they can do is, when in an object, 'sense' that something is adjacent to that object. But they can't see them, visible or not.

So the best that they could get is a poor man's blindsense.

-James

[blope]

But I seem to recall that since incorporeal undead exist partially on the ethereal plane, that they can see into the ethereal, and thus see invisible.

[cwslyclgh]

nope... incorporeal has nothing to do with the ethereal plane. How would being able to see into the ethereal plane allow one to see invisible creatures any way?

[Neil Mansell]

blope wrote:

But I seem to recall that since incorporeal undead exist partially on the ethereal plane, that they can see into the ethereal, and thus see invisible.

There is very little connection between 'ethereal' and 'invisible'. They are two completely seperate terms.

The ONLY connection I know of is that the 'see invisibility' spell allows you to see invisible things AND ethereal things.

EDIT: Sorry cwslyclgh, you beat me to the post :)