| LtlBtyRam |
We have a slight problem in our group. We are playing a game starting at 20th level with previous characters. The group was started under one GM and is being reinstituted by another. The original group is single classed with the exception of the arcane caster (19 wizard - 1 archmage) and is now looking into multiclassing or PrC options.
The problem...
The original GM is level 20 fighter. He wants to play a Mystic Theurge.
Mystic theurges place no boundaries on their magical abilities and find no irreconcilable paradox in devotion to the arcane as well as the divine. They seek magic in all of its forms, finding no reason or logic in denying themselves instruction by limiting their knowledge to one stifling paradigm, though many are simply hungry for limitless power. No matter what their motivations, mystic theurges believe that perception is reality, and through the divine forces and astral energies of the multiverse, that perception can be used to manipulate and control not only the nature of this reality, but destiny itself.
Mystic theurges are drawn from multiclass spellcasters who can already cast both arcane and divine spells, and the powers that they gain increase their mastery over both.
Role: The mystic theurge is a powerful component for any party, supplying magic for attack, defense, and healing. Mystic theurges travel the world in search of arcane and holy artifacts, magical lore, or divine revelations, and most have no qualms about teaming up with groups of adventurers so long as that group's goals do not directly conflict with their own.
Alignment: The motivations of a mystic theurge rarely stem from a sense of altruism or philanthropy, so most tend to be neutral, neutral good, or neutral evil. Lawful mystic theurges, whether good, neutral, or evil, are rarer, and often use their powers for either the benefit—or control—of society. Chaotic mystic theurges are rarer still, as the calling generally requires great personal discipline.
Hit Die: d6.
Requirements
To qualify to become a mystic theurge, a character must fulfill all the following criteria.
Skills: Knowledge (arcana) 3 ranks, Knowledge (religion) 3 ranks.
Spells: Able to cast 2nd-level divine spells and 2nd-level arcane spells.
To meet the requirements he wants to take 3 levels of cleric with Nethys as his deity and magic as one of his domains. With the domain spells Identify and Magic Mouth as these are arcane he believes it qualifies him for this PrC.
The new GM has tried telling the old GM this isn't enough to meet the requirements, and would like some backup on this. Preferably from other GM's or a Paizo staffer for definitive proof.
Santiago Mendez
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All spells cast by a divine caster from their spell list (including domain spells) are divine spells no matter what the spell was originally, the same is for arcane casters. The bard is a perfect example, the bard has the Cure spells that no other arcane caster has and the norm is that it is a divine spell, but not for the bard, it is an arcane spell.
| far_wanderer |
In addition, the entire point of Mystic Theurge is to increase the spellcasting of two different classes. Even if it was allowed, he'd still only have one spellcasting class going in and it would be worse in every conceivable way than just taking more Cleric levels.
Is he trying to argue that each class level would somehow result in two caster levels, since he's claiming Cleric as both a divine and arcane class? Because that's the only possible benefit I can think of.