Some questions regarding my new character


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Grand Lodge

Hey this is my new character and I was wondering if I could ask you guys a few question to help me out with her.

She is based off this pic, Bard's can be awesome
So basicly I am wondering about is there any weapon in the expansions that I could use as volin bow?
I know it's unlikely but I thought I would ask I only have the seeker of secerts atm and ofcorse the core book.

Also I have GM'd a few games and would love to use that GM experince thingy however I am not sure on how to use it.
Because as far as I know first level bard pretty useless but I doubt that anyone would say that I would comepletely destroy an adventure by bring in a second level bard...

Thats I thank you for your help in advance.

Dark Archive 1/5

First off, great find for the artwork!

While a 'violin bow' may seem like a bit of a stretch I can't argue there's a lot of flavor there. : )

In game you could always just say your bow looks like a violin and has a certain 'twang' as you draw and lose an arrow. Now if you want to use said bow as a violin as well in game, I'm not really sure if there are rules for that allow for that mechanic. I'm sure Josh or Doug will be along shortly.

If this was not organized play and a home game I would rule something like paying the combined cost of both the bow and the violin plus 25% to 50% for 'special' manufacture.

Marie Corelli wrote:

Also I have GM'd a few games and would love to use that GM experince thingy however I am not sure on how to use it.

The following GM rewards are listed under chapter 12 of the GPSOP:

+1 XP for the scenario
50% of the max gold for the tier appropriate to the GM’s character
Half credit for Prestige Awards

Quick answer: If you have GMed at least 3 separate PFS Tier 1-2 scenarios you have enough XP for a level 2 Bard, but with half the max gold for the scenarios run and half the max Prestige Awards.

Josh said that he will have updated the GM rewards in time for this years Gencon.

Have fun with the new bard ! By the way if she acts like the bard in the picture should she not belong to the Cheliax faction ?

Show James Jacobs that pic!

Scarab Sages 4/5 5/55/55/5 **** Venture-Captain, Australia—NSW—Greater West

Off topic- weird coincidence: I am just starting to paint a figure I found, a female necromancer/bard with violin, the picture really gives me a great start on colours etc.


baron arem heshvaun wrote:

First off, great find for the artwork!

While a 'violin bow' may seem like a bit of a stretch I can't argue there's a lot of flavor there. : )

Umm perhaps I should be more clear.

As I understand it the Bow is what is used for the playing of the violin.
So I was thinking perhaps some sort of melee weapon.
Like in the artwork how her bow is dripping blood.

Oh and baron arem heshvaun I know what the rewards are but is there some way I am ment to enter them online?
That is what I was asking sorry for any of the confusion.

And wile I would love to have the causal relationship With James to just say hey look at this picture I found, alas I do not.

sanwah68 would you be able to link what mini that is incase I wish to grab it for this character?

P.S Oh no She is Cheliax, in fact she is promised as bride/sacrifice Asmodeus thus the name and picture (name is Author of The Sorrows of Satan).
But she is sad and is allowed to experince the world for 666 days before returning home and this is all she must do to make the world a better place before leaving

Lantern Lodge 4/5

Hi Caladors, how you doing?

I hope to make it to GenConOz this year, but I've just found a townhouse I'm madly wanting to buy that is really stretching my budget, but if I can't make it, I know a few of my fellow Melbournians will be (though, to be honest, I think they'd sell my soul back to my former Chelish Master if I backed out!), so look out for Pathfinder Society pre-registrations on the GenConOz site in the coming months.

If it were me, I'd classify the (modified as a weapon) violin bow to be a light weapon, much like a Rapier, but with slashing instead of piercing damage.

Now it would be great if such a weapon already existed in some sourcebook, there may be, but I'm not aware of one. To be used to play a violin, it couldn't be more than a light weapon, and I think rapier fits the style remarkably well.

Try to bring the violin bow to Jason Bulmahn's attention and see if it can be included in the Advanced Player's Guide, where I believe they're trying to provide the Bard with a little more love.

Now if I were your Pathfinder Society GM, I'd feel much more comfortable allowing a violin bow than an urumi - rewarding players for in-character flavour choices over power-gaming - unfortunately, the rules-as-written (Guide to Organised Play, Chapter 13) doesn't yet support that view ... there were good reasons Jason removed reach from the Spiked Chain! Hint Josh?

Lantern Lodge 4/5

Caladors wrote:

Oh and baron arem heshvaun I know what the rewards are but is there some way I am ment to enter them online?

That is what I was asking sorry for any of the confusion.

Go to "My Pathfinder Society", and create an Event. If they were played at a store or a convention, there may already be an Event set up. If they were played as home games, create something like "Calador's Home Games" as your Event name.

Once you have an Event, you can add Sessions, and once you have Sessions, you can add Player's names, factions and prestige results to each Session.

Cheers :-)


DarkWhite wrote:
Hi Caladors, how you doing?

Yeah I am well for the most part.

And yes I am looking forward to GenCon Oz as much as you are.
I hope you found those trailblazer action points more to your liking I know you like a little more system than just craziness like I do.

I will look out for those events coming up, however this time round I am going to try and fit a bit more in with anyhope.
If you need GM's I will lend a hand, I have been trying to get a community going down here but it is a little hard they have fun and sun and, pen and paper just doesn't quite cut it.
But like I said to you before I am very visual guy so I have all of the maps of things printed and laminated for the ones I have done.

It would be good it there was such a weapon as the violin bow in a book and thats why I am asking so I can just buy that book and print that page.
But if their isn't I am just going bite the bullet I think and go improvised weapon.

And thank you for all of the help with the technical side.

P.S I am hoping to bring three characters this time around so that I can mesh with people better.
Ofcorse you remember
Seth Calador, barrister extraordinaire
And now
Marie Corelli, Bride of Asmodeus
and I'll make a first level cleric

I would like to mesh a little better than with the people I was with first time round you know play at the same power level...

Scarab Sages 4/5 5/55/55/5 **** Venture-Captain, Australia—NSW—Greater West

As requested Requiemma. You will need to order it on-line from the store, I have not found it anywhere else.

As for the violin bow, you could take the feat Catch Off-guard and treat it as a rapier as mentioned above.


sanwah68 wrote:

As requested Requiemma. You will need to order it on-line from the store, I have not found it anywhere else.

As for the violin bow, you could take the feat Catch Off-guard and treat it as a rapier as mentioned above.

WOW.

Nice decent price too.
Though the huge rock shes on may have to be removed...

Scarab Sages 4/5 5/55/55/5 **** Venture-Captain, Australia—NSW—Greater West

Caladors wrote:


WOW.
Nice decent price too.
Though the huge rock shes on may have to be removed...

No need, the rock is not included....

By the way...I love your character concept/background.


While I can appreciate the flavor here (it does look cool) there just isn't a weapon like that beyond a few feat choices and using an actual violin bow. Because the Society is worldwide and all players need to be on the same even playing field, we can't allow folks to invent new weapons for it.

As for the bard being useless at first level ... hardly. Have you read the PRPG bard? He's pretty versatile right from the beginning.


Joshua J. Frost wrote:

While I can appreciate the flavor here (it does look cool) there just isn't a weapon like that beyond a few feat choices and using an actual violin bow. Because the Society is worldwide and all players need to be on the same even playing field, we can't allow folks to invent new weapons for it.

As for the bard being useless at first level ... hardly. Have you read the PRPG bard? He's pretty versatile right from the beginning.

Alright they have the whole fill any slot thing going for them at first level but when I gamed in my first game, everyone was higher level than me and they were all very min-maxed.

Not an ideal for comparison however thats how my view has been coloured when it comes to that.
So there is not much more I can say on that.

I was simply hoping there was some weapon that you guys had made at some point like I said I only have core and seeker books so I didn't want to simply buy everything thats legal in pathfinder society I simply don't have enough to just do that on the whim of a violin bow.

But thanks I think the pic is pretty cool too.


sanwah68 wrote:
Caladors wrote:


WOW.
Nice decent price too.
Though the huge rock shes on may have to be removed...

No need, the rock is not included....

By the way...I love your character concept/background.

Thanks for that also, I like to think it is decent...

Scarab Sages

Is there any reason you can't play the violin with the side of a rapier? If the edges are blunt, it still works as a piercing weapon.
Have the edges filed to a texture that allows it to catch briefly on the strings, and draw them without breaking them.

PS: Calador, are you sure you've got her faction right?
It looks to me like she's Taldoran, not Cheliax.
You might have to fix that before you've made 10 posts.


A violin's bow is made of horse hair and the horse hair is specifically designed to be drawn across the bow to make the iconic violin sounds. You can't just draw anything across the strings of a violin and have it sound good (or make sound). Playing with a rapier ... seems unrealistic from a musician's perspective.

1/5

Joshua J. Frost wrote:
A violin's bow is made of horse hair and the horse hair is specifically designed to be drawn across the bow to make the iconic violin sounds. You can't just draw anything across the strings of a violin and have it sound good (or make sound). Playing with a rapier ... seems unrealistic from a musician's perspective.

Hmmm...how much does the frame of the bow contribute to the way the violin sounds? You would still need horse hair drawn taut and hooked, but would a metal bow with a thrusting tip be usable?


Snorter wrote:

PS: Calador, are you sure you've got her faction right?

It looks to me like she's Taldoran, not Cheliax.
You might have to fix that before you've made 10 posts.

Like I said before on the whole weapon thing I think I am going to bite the bullet and just use an improvised weapon when I must....

But as for the Taldoran thing? I don't see it...
She is the Bride of Lucifer in the pic...
I don't see how you can get much more Chilixian than that.
But country of origin has never been a determining factor in faction, for my characters.

She has accepted her fate but wishes to change the world before she goes.
I think maybe the reason she looks Taldoran to you is because of the finery but I think that anyone can be outfitted in finery, it's just the Taldorans do it more often.


Chris Kenney wrote:
Hmmm...how much does the frame of the bow contribute to the way the violin sounds? You would still need horse hair drawn taut and hooked, but would a metal bow with a thrusting tip be usable?

I'm sure it would sound different--how different, I don't know. :-)

Liberty's Edge 3/5

All this talk of violin bows. Think I'll head over to youtube and watch some of Jimmy Page's work with one. :)


Why not take it the other way.

Get a masterwork rapier that looks and acts like a violin bow. Suites the rules better and how you actually play your instrument is not very detailed anyway.

Scarab Sages

Caladors wrote:

But as for the Taldoran thing? I don't see it...

She is the Bride of Lucifer in the pic...
I don't see how you can get much more Chilixian than that.
But country of origin has never been a determining factor in faction, for my characters.

She has accepted her fate but wishes to change the world before she goes.
I think maybe the reason she looks Taldoran to you is because of the finery but I think that anyone can be outfitted in finery, it's just the Taldorans do it more often.

I was referring to the little blue bird icon, by her name. See how i've got a little red scarab? You can allocate these to any alias, not just your PF Society PC.

That blue bird marks her out as actively working for the Andoran faction (regardless of her place of birth).
It may be the default option, being first in alphabetical order, so if you don't click on another icon, you'd have that picked for you.
You are quite right, that a PCs country of origin is not forced to be their favoured faction to work for.
But, your description sounded like you were accepting of her destiny, and actively working for the Chelaxian faction.
If that is the case, you would need to change it, to avoid confusing any DMs (not to mention, being given the wrong missions!).


Snorter wrote:


But, your description sounded like you were accepting of her destiny, and actively working for the Chelaxian faction.

She has accepted her specific destiny, not that of the worlds she wish to spread as much hope and happiness as she can.

That said she intends to help both factions which is an interesting dichotomy.

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