Short questions about number of spells known

[Thierry4000]

Since i'm Dutch i sometimes have a little trouble understanding the rules. I hope someone can clarify some things for me:

1. If i understand correctly, a arcane caster can't learn divine spells and the other way around, unless i also take levels in another class. Is this correct?

2. Is this right? The druid knows all spells on the druid spell list, the sorcerer and bard only know a certain number of spells and the wizard can know all spells, but starts and gains only a certain number of spells each level. And through study, and copying spellbooks he can learn more?

[Caineach]

Thierry4000 wrote:

Since i'm Dutch i sometimes have a little trouble understanding the rules. I hope someone can clarify some things for me:

1. If i understand correctly, a arcane caster can't learn divine spells and the other way around, unless i also take levels in another class. Is this correct?

2. Is this right? The druid knows all spells on the druid spell list, the sorcerer and bard only know a certain number of spells and the wizard can know all spells, but starts and gains only a certain number of spells each level. And through study, and copying spellbooks he can learn more?

You are correct. There is a hard distinction between arcane and divine, and the classes gain spells as you describe. Some traditionally divine spells appear on arcane lists (or vise versa). They count as the class that casts them. You cannot learn a spell if it is not on your list.

Example: Bards get Cure Light Wounds. When they cast it, it is an arcane spell. If the make a scroll, it is an arcane scroll. A wizard would not be able to scribe it, since it is not on his list.

[MisterSlanky]

Thierry4000 wrote:

Since i'm Dutch i sometimes have a little trouble understanding the rules. I hope someone can clarify some things for me:

1. If i understand correctly, a arcane caster can't learn divine spells and the other way around, unless i also take levels in another class. Is this correct?

2. Is this right? The druid knows all spells on the druid spell list, the sorcerer and bard only know a certain number of spells and the wizard can know all spells, but starts and gains only a certain number of spells each level. And through study, and copying spellbooks he can learn more?

Correct.

A level 1 druid has access to all druid spells and can choose from that list one level 1 spell to cast each day (plus one additional spell if their wisdom is 12 or higher). This also applies to clerics (and rangers/paladins when they hit level 4).

A level 1 wizard has access to only a certain number of spells determined by their intelligence which they chose from the wizard list. These spells are transcribed in their spellbook and are available to learn each day. A wizard can choose one level 1 spell to cast each day (plus one additional spell if their intelligence is 12 or higher).

A level 1 sorcerer has access to a very limited number of spells determined by their level (a level 1 sorcerer gets two level 1 spells). They can cast either of these two spells in any combination up to 3 times per day (again plus one additional time if their charisma is 12 or higher).

Now if that level 1 druid takes their second level as wizard (effectively turning them into a level 2 character with 1 level of wizard and 1 level of druid) they still follow the rules outlined above with no changes when it comes to spell selection except that they now get to chose 1 spell off the druid list, and 1 spell off the wizard list. These classes will always be separated and will never combine to determine spell power, spell choices, or otherwise.

[LazarX]

Caineach wrote:

Thierry4000 wrote:

Since i'm Dutch i sometimes have a little trouble understanding the rules. I hope someone can clarify some things for me:

1. If i understand correctly, a arcane caster can't learn divine spells and the other way around, unless i also take levels in another class. Is this correct?

2. Is this right? The druid knows all spells on the druid spell list, the sorcerer and bard only know a certain number of spells and the wizard can know all spells, but starts and gains only a certain number of spells each level. And through study, and copying spellbooks he can learn more?

You are correct. There is a hard distinction between arcane and divine, and the classes gain spells as you describe. Some traditionally divine spells appear on arcane lists (or vise versa). They count as the class that casts them. You cannot learn a spell if it is not on your list.

Example: Bards get Cure Light Wounds. When they cast it, it is an arcane spell. If the make a scroll, it is an arcane scroll. A wizard would not be able to scribe it, since it is not on his list.

And a cleric would not be able to use it as it's not a divine scroll. Only another Bard could use such a scroll. (similar to a Wizard's ruling on Artificer scrolls to prevent a loophole making it absurdly easy for an artificer to help fill up a Wizard's spellbook.)

[Thierry4000]

Thanks for the answers, it's clear to me now. I do think that a druid gets a lot of spells to start with then.