
Lord Secretary War-Bucks |

Woodraven wrote:taig wrote:hey man if you need to talk I'm here. I was there not so long ago if you remember. Everyone on this board helped out, well maybe not Toddzilla, Studpuffin, or Treppa, since they were not yet members of our crazy little family :D But I am sure they would all help. Sometimes you just need to let it all out to someone who is not vested in your personal life. Just my 2cpMoff Rimmer wrote:taig wrote:** spoiler omitted **You or someone you know? I'm not affected by it as much but I get to see it with my wife almost daily. I sometimes wonder which is worse -- experiencing it yourself or watching someone you care about go through it.It's me. I feel like I've been circling the drain for the past 6 months. Today, I'm getting pulled in.
Yeah, my wife sometimes has a difficult time with it. She tries to help, and when I'm really bad off, I push her away. I will say she was the first person I called when it hit today.
Helped? I helped? Since when? I thought I was HINDERING you! Drat! ~rereads the definition for Hinder~ Ah, crap! Someone taped Help over Hinder. I knew I was doing something wrong!
here is some gold for future hindering puroposes
~slides 1000000 gold to the dragon~now go get that village we talked about
~grins~

taig RPG Superstar 2012 |

taig wrote:Well, you have friends here, taig. We willd o what we can, even if it is just listening.Thanks, guys. I am going to therapy, and it's helping somewhat. The depression is a long-term problem, thanks to my mom's side of the family.
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I appreciate it, Sharoth.

Sharoth |

Sharoth wrote:Woodraven wrote:taig wrote:hey man if you need to talk I'm here. I was there not so long ago if you remember. Everyone on this board helped out, well maybe not Toddzilla, Studpuffin, or Treppa, since they were not yet members of our crazy little family :D But I am sure they would all help. Sometimes you just need to let it all out to someone who is not vested in your personal life. Just my 2cpMoff Rimmer wrote:taig wrote:** spoiler omitted **You or someone you know? I'm not affected by it as much but I get to see it with my wife almost daily. I sometimes wonder which is worse -- experiencing it yourself or watching someone you care about go through it.It's me. I feel like I've been circling the drain for the past 6 months. Today, I'm getting pulled in.
Yeah, my wife sometimes has a difficult time with it. She tries to help, and when I'm really bad off, I push her away. I will say she was the first person I called when it hit today.
Helped? I helped? Since when? I thought I was HINDERING you! Drat! ~rereads the definition for Hinder~ Ah, crap! Someone taped Help over Hinder. I knew I was doing something wrong!
here is some gold for future hindering puroposes
~slides 1,000,000 gold to the dragon~now go get that village we talked about
~grins~
~quietly hides the bribe~ But... But... I am Neutral Good. I can't pillage and burn a defenseless and innocent village!

Sharoth |

Sharoth wrote:I'd go with a giant monster, with the squeeze ability so it can fit under the bed.Woodraven wrote:going to take a napSleep well and don't let the giant, fiendish, vampiric bed bugs bite. ~thinks~ Now how would I stat them up? Swarm rules or just a giant monster?
So are you going to stat it up and submit it to Wolfgang's KQ? I say go for it.

Lord Secretary War-Bucks |

Lord Secretary War-Bucks wrote:~quietly hides the bribe~ But... But... I am Neutral Good. I can't pillage and burn a defenseless and innocent village!Sharoth wrote:
Helped? I helped? Since when? I thought I was HINDERING you! Drat! ~rereads the definition for Hinder~ Ah, crap! Someone taped Help over Hinder. I knew I was doing something wrong!
here is some gold for future hindering puroposes
~slides 1,000,000 gold to the dragon~now go get that village we talked about
~grins~
they have several cows and I am hungry for some burgers, also we will just say that it was a village of the S\m/4Fs

Sharoth |

Sharoth wrote:they have several cows and I am hungry for some burgers, also we will just say that it was a village of the S\m/4FsLord Secretary War-Bucks wrote:~quietly hides the bribe~ But... But... I am Neutral Good. I can't pillage and burn a defenseless and innocent village!Sharoth wrote:
Helped? I helped? Since when? I thought I was HINDERING you! Drat! ~rereads the definition for Hinder~ Ah, crap! Someone taped Help over Hinder. I knew I was doing something wrong!
here is some gold for future hindering puroposes
~slides 1,000,000 gold to the dragon~now go get that village we talked about
~grins~
~roars with rage~ S\m/4Fs?!? S\m/4Fs?!? That does it! That village is history!!!

taig RPG Superstar 2012 |

I find myself leaning toward's Treppa's idea... Ditch this joint in June, have a blast in Europe, come back, move, and find a job somewhere else. I'm used to being underpaid, so I should be able to find something that meets my low standards.
Go for it. This seems like something you'd regret not doing. I can't imagine your regret for not having your current job to come back to will be near as much.

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Celestial Healer wrote:I find myself leaning toward's Treppa's idea... Ditch this joint in June, have a blast in Europe, come back, move, and find a job somewhere else. I'm used to being underpaid, so I should be able to find something that meets my low standards.Go for it. This seems like something you'd regret not doing. I can't imagine your regret for not having your current job to come back to will be near as much.
Of course, I did ask management if I could combine that maximum 4 weeks of leave with all of my available vacation time to get the time that I need, so I should wait for that answer before getting too excited, but I'd honestly be a little bummed if they said "yes" because there's other things I wanted to do with that PTO...

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Mairkurion {tm} wrote:Thanks. I just wonder how much truly sucks, and how much I'm blowing out of proportion.Taig: it should make you feel somewhat better to know that, it's not just you that are depressed; it's that life sucks.
Half-kidding. Remember you've got my #.
Is there a way for you to get some more training in order to be more marketable with other companies?

Mairkurion {tm} |

Mairkurion {tm} wrote:Thanks. I just wonder how much truly sucks, and how much I'm blowing out of proportion.Taig: it should make you feel somewhat better to know that, it's not just you that are depressed; it's that life sucks.
Half-kidding. Remember you've got my #.
So, how much it sucks, and how much you blow. Well, you've got your question, now to answer it!

Treppa |

I find myself leaning toward's Treppa's idea... Ditch this joint in June, have a blast in Europe, come back, move, and find a job somewhere else. I'm used to being underpaid, so I should be able to find something that meets my low standards.
Thinking more on your situation, I wondered if it was the nature of you job that sucked, or that particular office. Would a transfer help at all, or would it be SSDDDlocation? Have you researched the job market at you destination? Are your skills highly marketable there? You can do some homework before deciding to chuck it all. And always give two weeks notice. I frown very hard at those who do not, and will not recommend them to new employers.

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Celestial Healer wrote:I find myself leaning toward's Treppa's idea... Ditch this joint in June, have a blast in Europe, come back, move, and find a job somewhere else. I'm used to being underpaid, so I should be able to find something that meets my low standards.Thinking more on your situation, I wondered if it was the nature of you job that sucked, or that particular office. Would a transfer help at all, or would it be SSDDDlocation? Have you researched the job market at you destination? Are your skills highly marketable there? You can do some homework before deciding to chuck it all. And always give two weeks notice. I frown very hard at those who do not, and will not recommend them to new employers.
No, if I transferred the job would still suck. The also pay really poorly, so taking an entry level job elsewhere wouldn't really be a paycut.
But there is plenty of time to research and give notice. We're not going to Italy until the end of June.

Treppa |

Mairkurion {tm} wrote:Thanks. I just wonder how much truly sucks, and how much I'm blowing out of proportion.Taig: it should make you feel somewhat better to know that, it's not just you that are depressed; it's that life sucks.
Half-kidding. Remember you've got my #.
OTOH, I can still remember waking up one day after several years of depression and a few weeks of SSRI's and realizing that the sun was shining, the sky was blue, it was a beautiful day, and I was glad to be there. I swear it was the first emotion in the better part of a decade. Now I know that no matter how bad things seem, there will be a day when I look around and am happy to be here. It keeps me from doing anything desperate during dark times. I keep plodding and, if necessary, go back to counseling and back on meds until things improve. If one thing doesn't help, I go back and try another. Different drug, different counselor, whatever it takes (legally - not big on self-medication).
Depression is not you and you are not depression. It is the black dog that messes with you mind. Never, ever, ever let it win! [/churchill]

taig RPG Superstar 2012 |

taig wrote:Is there a way for you to get some more training in order to be more marketable with other companies?Mairkurion {tm} wrote:Thanks. I just wonder how much truly sucks, and how much I'm blowing out of proportion.Taig: it should make you feel somewhat better to know that, it's not just you that are depressed; it's that life sucks.
Half-kidding. Remember you've got my #.
It depends on the company (or the agency the company is employing to do their "talent recruitment"). I can get certifications for various programming languages, which may help. Unfortunately, a lot of recruiters look specifically at experience in whatever buzzwords the company gives them, and "I've got a certification and I'm a quick learner" is not going to cut it.
I'm going to work on certifications for languages that I already work in. It will at least help me learn them better for evaluations and interviews.

Treppa |

It depends on the company (or the agency the company is employing to do their "talent recruitment"). I can get certifications for various programming languages, which may help. Unfortunately, a lot of recruiters look specifically at experience in whatever buzzwords the company gives them, and "I've got a certification and I'm a quick learner" is not going to cut it.
I'm going to work on certifications for languages that I already work in. It will at least help me learn them better for evaluations and interviews.
The IT industry is just brutal. You need a cush job like, say, professor.

taig RPG Superstar 2012 |

taig wrote:** spoiler omitted **Mairkurion {tm} wrote:Thanks. I just wonder how much truly sucks, and how much I'm blowing out of proportion.Taig: it should make you feel somewhat better to know that, it's not just you that are depressed; it's that life sucks.
Half-kidding. Remember you've got my #.
Thanks. I'm certain my over-reaction to things at work caused me to end up where I am now. So, of course, I'm beating myself up for making that move, which doesn't help at all. I know I don't want to do something worse in reaction to how things stand now.
I will be visiting the doctor I've been seeing lately so I can try out a new medication. So far, my luck has been bad with everything I've tried.
I really do think a change of scenery, vis-a-vis work, will help. I don't know if the place is toxic in reality or in my mind, but, considering how some of my co-workers feel, I'm pretty sure it's not in my mind.

Urizen |

The IT industry is just brutal. You need a cush job like, say, professor.
No doubt. They get to check their PDAs at convenient hours of the day, check out hot young girls in their classroom for further philandering, and make a lot of intelligensia snark that no one gets but themselves. I want that career.

Treppa |

I really do think a change of scenery, vis-a-vis work, will help. I don't know if the place is toxic in reality or in my mind, but, considering how some of my co-workers feel, I'm pretty sure it's not in my mind.
Then getting out sounds like a good idea, as long as you're not jumping from one toxic place to another. And the problem with depression on top of everything else is it clouds your judgement and keeps you from shining like a new penny during interviews. But it's better to look in a controlled fashion than to get fed up and dump the place with no safety net.

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taig wrote:I really do think a change of scenery, vis-a-vis work, will help. I don't know if the place is toxic in reality or in my mind, but, considering how some of my co-workers feel, I'm pretty sure it's not in my mind.Then getting out sounds like a good idea, as long as you're not jumping from one toxic place to another. And the problem with depression on top of everything else is it clouds your judgement and keeps you from shining like a new penny during interviews. But it's better to look in a controlled fashion than to get fed up and dump the place with no safety net.
I've gotten close to doing that. Thankfully, my sense of responsibility to my family keeps me from doing something I would immediately regret.
You're no longer in the IT field, right? What made you decide to get out? If you don't mind my being nosy. :)

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Moff Rimmer wrote:The package says that it's "A Fat Free Food" -- so it must be healthy, right?mmmmmm ... Sugar.
Ok, maybe not technically. First three ingredients: Dextrose, Sugar, Corn Syrup. Definitely what I needed right now.
I guess it's better than saying "No fat now, but, boy, all this stuff is going to be converted over in a hurry."

Emperor7 |

Thanks, guys. I am going to therapy, and it's helping somewhat. The depression is a long-term problem, thanks to my mom's side of the family.
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Moff Rimmer wrote:Twizzlers? Starbursts?Moff Rimmer wrote:The package says that it's "A Fat Free Food" -- so it must be healthy, right?mmmmmm ... Sugar.
Ok, maybe not technically. First three ingredients: Dextrose, Sugar, Corn Syrup. Definitely what I needed right now.
SweetTarts Jelly Beans. (I didn't even know they did that.)

Treppa |

You're no longer in the IT field, right? What made you decide to get out? If you don't mind my being nosy. :)
My employer and I agreed to part ways. I was totally unhappy and it showed. They were unhappy with me because of it (it's particularly bad in a manager). I let things go to the point that I can't even think about finding a job in the field. I'd rather work a drive-through window. I let the burn-out go too long. Cubicles make me nauseated.
Another mistake was going management. I no longer have technical skills that are marketable. Be warned!

Sharoth |

taig wrote:You're no longer in the IT field, right? What made you decide to get out? If you don't mind my being nosy. :)My employer and I agreed to part ways. I was totally unhappy and it showed. They were unhappy with me because of it (it's particularly bad in a manager). I let things go to the point that I can't even think about finding a job in the field. I'd rather work a drive-through window. I let the burn-out go too long. Cubicles make me nauseated.
Another mistake was going management. I no longer have technical skills that are marketable. Be warned!
Yea. I can understand that. If I were to go back into the IT field, I would have to learn everything over again. Too much has changed in the past 10+ years. Hell, even my A+ Certification is outdated and needs to be renewed.

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Treppa wrote:Yea. I can understand that. If I were to go back into the IT field, I would have to learn everything over again. Too much has changed in the past 10+ years. Hell, even my A+ Certification is outdated and needs to be renewed.taig wrote:You're no longer in the IT field, right? What made you decide to get out? If you don't mind my being nosy. :)My employer and I agreed to part ways. I was totally unhappy and it showed. They were unhappy with me because of it (it's particularly bad in a manager). I let things go to the point that I can't even think about finding a job in the field. I'd rather work a drive-through window. I let the burn-out go too long. Cubicles make me nauseated.
Another mistake was going management. I no longer have technical skills that are marketable. Be warned!
Are you saying that my FORTRAN training isn't any good anymore? Pascal? BASIC?

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Celestial Healer wrote:SweetTarts Jelly Beans. (I didn't even know they did that.)Moff Rimmer wrote:Twizzlers? Starbursts?Moff Rimmer wrote:The package says that it's "A Fat Free Food" -- so it must be healthy, right?mmmmmm ... Sugar.
Ok, maybe not technically. First three ingredients: Dextrose, Sugar, Corn Syrup. Definitely what I needed right now.
"Serving Size -- 15 beans".
Oh oh.

Emperor7 |

Sharoth wrote:Are you saying that my FORTRAN training isn't any good anymore? Pascal? BASIC?Treppa wrote:Yea. I can understand that. If I were to go back into the IT field, I would have to learn everything over again. Too much has changed in the past 10+ years. Hell, even my A+ Certification is outdated and needs to be renewed.taig wrote:You're no longer in the IT field, right? What made you decide to get out? If you don't mind my being nosy. :)My employer and I agreed to part ways. I was totally unhappy and it showed. They were unhappy with me because of it (it's particularly bad in a manager). I let things go to the point that I can't even think about finding a job in the field. I'd rather work a drive-through window. I let the burn-out go too long. Cubicles make me nauseated.
Another mistake was going management. I no longer have technical skills that are marketable. Be warned!
Ye gods! You used the F word!
Funny story. I had to take Fortran WAY back in the day. Spent every Friday night in the computer lab struggling. Took the final and it felt too easy. Got an A in the class, but I have no idea how. Guess that final was as easy as I thought.

taig RPG Superstar 2012 |

taig wrote:You're no longer in the IT field, right? What made you decide to get out? If you don't mind my being nosy. :)My employer and I agreed to part ways. I was totally unhappy and it showed. They were unhappy with me because of it (it's particularly bad in a manager). I let things go to the point that I can't even think about finding a job in the field. I'd rather work a drive-through window. I let the burn-out go too long. Cubicles make me nauseated.
Another mistake was going management. I no longer have technical skills that are marketable. Be warned!
I've been avoiding the management route. It's one of the frustrations I have with my new position, because they want me to take on more of a supervisory role. No thanks.
Sorry it got so bad for you. I'm worried I'm reaching that point.