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Sharoth wrote:
Woodraven wrote:
taig wrote:
Moff Rimmer wrote:
taig wrote:
** spoiler omitted **
You or someone you know? I'm not affected by it as much but I get to see it with my wife almost daily. I sometimes wonder which is worse -- experiencing it yourself or watching someone you care about go through it.

It's me. I feel like I've been circling the drain for the past 6 months. Today, I'm getting pulled in.

Yeah, my wife sometimes has a difficult time with it. She tries to help, and when I'm really bad off, I push her away. I will say she was the first person I called when it hit today.

hey man if you need to talk I'm here. I was there not so long ago if you remember. Everyone on this board helped out, well maybe not Toddzilla, Studpuffin, or Treppa, since they were not yet members of our crazy little family :D But I am sure they would all help. Sometimes you just need to let it all out to someone who is not vested in your personal life. Just my 2cp

Helped? I helped? Since when? I thought I was HINDERING you! Drat! ~rereads the definition for Hinder~ Ah, crap! Someone taped Help over Hinder. I knew I was doing something wrong!

here is some gold for future hindering puroposes
~slides 1000000 gold to the dragon~

now go get that village we talked about
~grins~


taig wrote:

Thanks, guys. I am going to therapy, and it's helping somewhat. The depression is a long-term problem, thanks to my mom's side of the family.

** spoiler omitted **

Well, you have friends here, taig. We will do what we can, even if it is just listening.

RPG Superstar 2012

Sharoth wrote:
taig wrote:

Thanks, guys. I am going to therapy, and it's helping somewhat. The depression is a long-term problem, thanks to my mom's side of the family.

** spoiler omitted **

Well, you have friends here, taig. We willd o what we can, even if it is just listening.

I appreciate it, Sharoth.


going to take a nap


Lord Secretary War-Bucks wrote:
Sharoth wrote:
Woodraven wrote:
taig wrote:
Moff Rimmer wrote:
taig wrote:
** spoiler omitted **
You or someone you know? I'm not affected by it as much but I get to see it with my wife almost daily. I sometimes wonder which is worse -- experiencing it yourself or watching someone you care about go through it.

It's me. I feel like I've been circling the drain for the past 6 months. Today, I'm getting pulled in.

Yeah, my wife sometimes has a difficult time with it. She tries to help, and when I'm really bad off, I push her away. I will say she was the first person I called when it hit today.

hey man if you need to talk I'm here. I was there not so long ago if you remember. Everyone on this board helped out, well maybe not Toddzilla, Studpuffin, or Treppa, since they were not yet members of our crazy little family :D But I am sure they would all help. Sometimes you just need to let it all out to someone who is not vested in your personal life. Just my 2cp

Helped? I helped? Since when? I thought I was HINDERING you! Drat! ~rereads the definition for Hinder~ Ah, crap! Someone taped Help over Hinder. I knew I was doing something wrong!

here is some gold for future hindering puroposes
~slides 1,000,000 gold to the dragon~

now go get that village we talked about
~grins~

~quietly hides the bribe~ But... But... I am Neutral Good. I can't pillage and burn a defenseless and innocent village!


Sharoth wrote:
taig wrote:

Thanks, guys. I am going to therapy, and it's helping somewhat. The depression is a long-term problem, thanks to my mom's side of the family.

** spoiler omitted **

Well, you have friends here, taig. We willd o what we can, even if it is just listening.

+1


Woodraven wrote:
going to take a nap

Sleep well and don't let the giant, fiendish, vampiric bed bugs bite. ~thinks~ Now how would I stat them up? Swarm rules or just a giant monster?

Liberty's Edge Contributor, RPG Superstar 2012

Sharoth wrote:
Woodraven wrote:
going to take a nap
Sleep well and don't let the giant, fiendish, vampiric bed bugs bite. ~thinks~ Now how would I stat them up? Swarm rules or just a giant monster?

I'd go with a giant monster, with the squeeze ability so it can fit under the bed.


taig wrote:
Sharoth wrote:
Woodraven wrote:
going to take a nap
Sleep well and don't let the giant, fiendish, vampiric bed bugs bite. ~thinks~ Now how would I stat them up? Swarm rules or just a giant monster?
I'd go with a giant monster, with the squeeze ability so it can fit under the bed.

So are you going to stat it up and submit it to Wolfgang's KQ? I say go for it.


Sharoth wrote:
Lord Secretary War-Bucks wrote:
Sharoth wrote:


Helped? I helped? Since when? I thought I was HINDERING you! Drat! ~rereads the definition for Hinder~ Ah, crap! Someone taped Help over Hinder. I knew I was doing something wrong!

here is some gold for future hindering puroposes
~slides 1,000,000 gold to the dragon~

now go get that village we talked about
~grins~

~quietly hides the bribe~ But... But... I am Neutral Good. I can't pillage and burn a defenseless and innocent village!

they have several cows and I am hungry for some burgers, also we will just say that it was a village of the S\m/4Fs


Lord Secretary War-Bucks wrote:
Sharoth wrote:
Lord Secretary War-Bucks wrote:
Sharoth wrote:


Helped? I helped? Since when? I thought I was HINDERING you! Drat! ~rereads the definition for Hinder~ Ah, crap! Someone taped Help over Hinder. I knew I was doing something wrong!

here is some gold for future hindering puroposes
~slides 1,000,000 gold to the dragon~

now go get that village we talked about
~grins~

~quietly hides the bribe~ But... But... I am Neutral Good. I can't pillage and burn a defenseless and innocent village!
they have several cows and I am hungry for some burgers, also we will just say that it was a village of the S\m/4Fs

~roars with rage~ S\m/4Fs?!? S\m/4Fs?!? That does it! That village is history!!!

Silver Crusade

I find myself leaning toward's Treppa's idea... Ditch this joint in June, have a blast in Europe, come back, move, and find a job somewhere else. I'm used to being underpaid, so I should be able to find something that meets my low standards.


Taig: it should make you feel somewhat better to know that, it's not just you that are depressed; it's that life sucks.

Half-kidding. Remember you've got my #.

RPG Superstar 2012

Celestial Healer wrote:
I find myself leaning toward's Treppa's idea... Ditch this joint in June, have a blast in Europe, come back, move, and find a job somewhere else. I'm used to being underpaid, so I should be able to find something that meets my low standards.

Go for it. This seems like something you'd regret not doing. I can't imagine your regret for not having your current job to come back to will be near as much.

Liberty's Edge Contributor, RPG Superstar 2012

Mairkurion {tm} wrote:

Taig: it should make you feel somewhat better to know that, it's not just you that are depressed; it's that life sucks.

Half-kidding. Remember you've got my #.

Thanks. I just wonder how much truly sucks, and how much I'm blowing out of proportion.

Silver Crusade

taig wrote:
Celestial Healer wrote:
I find myself leaning toward's Treppa's idea... Ditch this joint in June, have a blast in Europe, come back, move, and find a job somewhere else. I'm used to being underpaid, so I should be able to find something that meets my low standards.
Go for it. This seems like something you'd regret not doing. I can't imagine your regret for not having your current job to come back to will be near as much.

Of course, I did ask management if I could combine that maximum 4 weeks of leave with all of my available vacation time to get the time that I need, so I should wait for that answer before getting too excited, but I'd honestly be a little bummed if they said "yes" because there's other things I wanted to do with that PTO...

Silver Crusade

taig wrote:
Mairkurion {tm} wrote:

Taig: it should make you feel somewhat better to know that, it's not just you that are depressed; it's that life sucks.

Half-kidding. Remember you've got my #.

Thanks. I just wonder how much truly sucks, and how much I'm blowing out of proportion.

Is there a way for you to get some more training in order to be more marketable with other companies?


*does a victory dance*


taig wrote:
Mairkurion {tm} wrote:

Taig: it should make you feel somewhat better to know that, it's not just you that are depressed; it's that life sucks.

Half-kidding. Remember you've got my #.

Thanks. I just wonder how much truly sucks, and how much I'm blowing out of proportion.

So, how much it sucks, and how much you blow. Well, you've got your question, now to answer it!


Celestial Healer wrote:
I find myself leaning toward's Treppa's idea... Ditch this joint in June, have a blast in Europe, come back, move, and find a job somewhere else. I'm used to being underpaid, so I should be able to find something that meets my low standards.

Thinking more on your situation, I wondered if it was the nature of you job that sucked, or that particular office. Would a transfer help at all, or would it be SSDDDlocation? Have you researched the job market at you destination? Are your skills highly marketable there? You can do some homework before deciding to chuck it all. And always give two weeks notice. I frown very hard at those who do not, and will not recommend them to new employers.

Silver Crusade

Treppa wrote:
Celestial Healer wrote:
I find myself leaning toward's Treppa's idea... Ditch this joint in June, have a blast in Europe, come back, move, and find a job somewhere else. I'm used to being underpaid, so I should be able to find something that meets my low standards.
Thinking more on your situation, I wondered if it was the nature of you job that sucked, or that particular office. Would a transfer help at all, or would it be SSDDDlocation? Have you researched the job market at you destination? Are your skills highly marketable there? You can do some homework before deciding to chuck it all. And always give two weeks notice. I frown very hard at those who do not, and will not recommend them to new employers.

No, if I transferred the job would still suck. The also pay really poorly, so taking an entry level job elsewhere wouldn't really be a paycut.

But there is plenty of time to research and give notice. We're not going to Italy until the end of June.


taig wrote:
Mairkurion {tm} wrote:

Taig: it should make you feel somewhat better to know that, it's not just you that are depressed; it's that life sucks.

Half-kidding. Remember you've got my #.

Thanks. I just wonder how much truly sucks, and how much I'm blowing out of proportion.

my boring experiences:
The problem with depression is that it blows everything out of proportion. I remember watching a Lassie movie one depressed day. She was hit by a car and lay in a coma with a bandage around her little furry head. I dripped tears and felt the world was coming to an end. Sheesh. Embarassing.

OTOH, I can still remember waking up one day after several years of depression and a few weeks of SSRI's and realizing that the sun was shining, the sky was blue, it was a beautiful day, and I was glad to be there. I swear it was the first emotion in the better part of a decade. Now I know that no matter how bad things seem, there will be a day when I look around and am happy to be here. It keeps me from doing anything desperate during dark times. I keep plodding and, if necessary, go back to counseling and back on meds until things improve. If one thing doesn't help, I go back and try another. Different drug, different counselor, whatever it takes (legally - not big on self-medication).

Depression is not you and you are not depression. It is the black dog that messes with you mind. Never, ever, ever let it win! [/churchill]


+1

RPG Superstar 2012

Celestial Healer wrote:
taig wrote:
Mairkurion {tm} wrote:

Taig: it should make you feel somewhat better to know that, it's not just you that are depressed; it's that life sucks.

Half-kidding. Remember you've got my #.

Thanks. I just wonder how much truly sucks, and how much I'm blowing out of proportion.
Is there a way for you to get some more training in order to be more marketable with other companies?

It depends on the company (or the agency the company is employing to do their "talent recruitment"). I can get certifications for various programming languages, which may help. Unfortunately, a lot of recruiters look specifically at experience in whatever buzzwords the company gives them, and "I've got a certification and I'm a quick learner" is not going to cut it.

I'm going to work on certifications for languages that I already work in. It will at least help me learn them better for evaluations and interviews.


Wow. No guffawing? Since my humor doesn't suck at all, you all blow.


You said something, greenman?

Silver Crusade

Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Wow. No guffawing? Since my humor doesn't suck at all, you all blow.

Hey, it's a living.


taig wrote:

It depends on the company (or the agency the company is employing to do their "talent recruitment"). I can get certifications for various programming languages, which may help. Unfortunately, a lot of recruiters look specifically at experience in whatever buzzwords the company gives them, and "I've got a certification and I'm a quick learner" is not going to cut it.

I'm going to work on certifications for languages that I already work in. It will at least help me learn them better for evaluations and interviews.

The IT industry is just brutal. You need a cush job like, say, professor.

RPG Superstar 2012

Treppa wrote:
taig wrote:
Mairkurion {tm} wrote:

Taig: it should make you feel somewhat better to know that, it's not just you that are depressed; it's that life sucks.

Half-kidding. Remember you've got my #.

Thanks. I just wonder how much truly sucks, and how much I'm blowing out of proportion.
** spoiler omitted **

Thanks. I'm certain my over-reaction to things at work caused me to end up where I am now. So, of course, I'm beating myself up for making that move, which doesn't help at all. I know I don't want to do something worse in reaction to how things stand now.

I will be visiting the doctor I've been seeing lately so I can try out a new medication. So far, my luck has been bad with everything I've tried.

I really do think a change of scenery, vis-a-vis work, will help. I don't know if the place is toxic in reality or in my mind, but, considering how some of my co-workers feel, I'm pretty sure it's not in my mind.


Treppa wrote:
The IT industry is just brutal. You need a cush job like, say, professor.

No doubt. They get to check their PDAs at convenient hours of the day, check out hot young girls in their classroom for further philandering, and make a lot of intelligensia snark that no one gets but themselves. I want that career.

Liberty's Edge Contributor, RPG Superstar 2012

Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Wow. No guffawing? Since my humor doesn't suck at all, you all blow.

Don't take your frustration at crappy essays out on us, Leafy. :)


taig wrote:
I really do think a change of scenery, vis-a-vis work, will help. I don't know if the place is toxic in reality or in my mind, but, considering how some of my co-workers feel, I'm pretty sure it's not in my mind.

Then getting out sounds like a good idea, as long as you're not jumping from one toxic place to another. And the problem with depression on top of everything else is it clouds your judgement and keeps you from shining like a new penny during interviews. But it's better to look in a controlled fashion than to get fed up and dump the place with no safety net.

Scarab Sages

mmmmmm ... Sugar.

Ok, maybe not technically. First three ingredients: Dextrose, Sugar, Corn Syrup. Definitely what I needed right now.

Scarab Sages

Moff Rimmer wrote:

mmmmmm ... Sugar.

Ok, maybe not technically. First three ingredients: Dextrose, Sugar, Corn Syrup. Definitely what I needed right now.

The package says that it's "A Fat Free Food" -- so it must be healthy, right?

Liberty's Edge Contributor, RPG Superstar 2012

Treppa wrote:
taig wrote:
I really do think a change of scenery, vis-a-vis work, will help. I don't know if the place is toxic in reality or in my mind, but, considering how some of my co-workers feel, I'm pretty sure it's not in my mind.
Then getting out sounds like a good idea, as long as you're not jumping from one toxic place to another. And the problem with depression on top of everything else is it clouds your judgement and keeps you from shining like a new penny during interviews. But it's better to look in a controlled fashion than to get fed up and dump the place with no safety net.

I've gotten close to doing that. Thankfully, my sense of responsibility to my family keeps me from doing something I would immediately regret.

You're no longer in the IT field, right? What made you decide to get out? If you don't mind my being nosy. :)

Liberty's Edge Contributor, RPG Superstar 2012

Moff Rimmer wrote:
Moff Rimmer wrote:

mmmmmm ... Sugar.

Ok, maybe not technically. First three ingredients: Dextrose, Sugar, Corn Syrup. Definitely what I needed right now.

The package says that it's "A Fat Free Food" -- so it must be healthy, right?

I guess it's better than saying "No fat now, but, boy, all this stuff is going to be converted over in a hurry."

Silver Crusade

Moff Rimmer wrote:
Moff Rimmer wrote:

mmmmmm ... Sugar.

Ok, maybe not technically. First three ingredients: Dextrose, Sugar, Corn Syrup. Definitely what I needed right now.

The package says that it's "A Fat Free Food" -- so it must be healthy, right?

Twizzlers? Starbursts?


taig wrote:

Thanks, guys. I am going to therapy, and it's helping somewhat. The depression is a long-term problem, thanks to my mom's side of the family.

** spoiler omitted **

Spoiler:
Ouch. Things are sure piling up on you. Sorry about your Mom. On the job front, regardless of compensation, doing something that makes you the front man for a crappy company will wear you down. The job market sux everywhere. I liken it to treading water, and waiting for a break. Good luck.
Scarab Sages

Celestial Healer wrote:
Moff Rimmer wrote:
Moff Rimmer wrote:

mmmmmm ... Sugar.

Ok, maybe not technically. First three ingredients: Dextrose, Sugar, Corn Syrup. Definitely what I needed right now.

The package says that it's "A Fat Free Food" -- so it must be healthy, right?
Twizzlers? Starbursts?

SweetTarts Jelly Beans. (I didn't even know they did that.)


shadowing.


taig wrote:
You're no longer in the IT field, right? What made you decide to get out? If you don't mind my being nosy. :)

My employer and I agreed to part ways. I was totally unhappy and it showed. They were unhappy with me because of it (it's particularly bad in a manager). I let things go to the point that I can't even think about finding a job in the field. I'd rather work a drive-through window. I let the burn-out go too long. Cubicles make me nauseated.

Another mistake was going management. I no longer have technical skills that are marketable. Be warned!


Moff Rimmer wrote:
SweetTarts Jelly Beans. (I didn't even know they did that.)

Sounds like PURE EVIL.


Treppa wrote:
taig wrote:
You're no longer in the IT field, right? What made you decide to get out? If you don't mind my being nosy. :)

My employer and I agreed to part ways. I was totally unhappy and it showed. They were unhappy with me because of it (it's particularly bad in a manager). I let things go to the point that I can't even think about finding a job in the field. I'd rather work a drive-through window. I let the burn-out go too long. Cubicles make me nauseated.

Another mistake was going management. I no longer have technical skills that are marketable. Be warned!

Yea. I can understand that. If I were to go back into the IT field, I would have to learn everything over again. Too much has changed in the past 10+ years. Hell, even my A+ Certification is outdated and needs to be renewed.


Treppa wrote:
Moff Rimmer wrote:
SweetTarts Jelly Beans. (I didn't even know they did that.)
Sounds like PURE EVIL.

Where do you and Studpuffin live, Treppa?

Scarab Sages

Sharoth wrote:
Treppa wrote:
taig wrote:
You're no longer in the IT field, right? What made you decide to get out? If you don't mind my being nosy. :)

My employer and I agreed to part ways. I was totally unhappy and it showed. They were unhappy with me because of it (it's particularly bad in a manager). I let things go to the point that I can't even think about finding a job in the field. I'd rather work a drive-through window. I let the burn-out go too long. Cubicles make me nauseated.

Another mistake was going management. I no longer have technical skills that are marketable. Be warned!

Yea. I can understand that. If I were to go back into the IT field, I would have to learn everything over again. Too much has changed in the past 10+ years. Hell, even my A+ Certification is outdated and needs to be renewed.

Are you saying that my FORTRAN training isn't any good anymore? Pascal? BASIC?

Dark Archive Bella Sara Charter Superscriber

Tildes suck.

Scarab Sages

Moff Rimmer wrote:
Celestial Healer wrote:
Moff Rimmer wrote:
Moff Rimmer wrote:

mmmmmm ... Sugar.

Ok, maybe not technically. First three ingredients: Dextrose, Sugar, Corn Syrup. Definitely what I needed right now.

The package says that it's "A Fat Free Food" -- so it must be healthy, right?
Twizzlers? Starbursts?
SweetTarts Jelly Beans. (I didn't even know they did that.)

"Serving Size -- 15 beans".

Oh oh.


Moff Rimmer wrote:
Sharoth wrote:
Treppa wrote:
taig wrote:
You're no longer in the IT field, right? What made you decide to get out? If you don't mind my being nosy. :)

My employer and I agreed to part ways. I was totally unhappy and it showed. They were unhappy with me because of it (it's particularly bad in a manager). I let things go to the point that I can't even think about finding a job in the field. I'd rather work a drive-through window. I let the burn-out go too long. Cubicles make me nauseated.

Another mistake was going management. I no longer have technical skills that are marketable. Be warned!

Yea. I can understand that. If I were to go back into the IT field, I would have to learn everything over again. Too much has changed in the past 10+ years. Hell, even my A+ Certification is outdated and needs to be renewed.
Are you saying that my FORTRAN training isn't any good anymore? Pascal? BASIC?

Ye gods! You used the F word!

Funny story. I had to take Fortran WAY back in the day. Spent every Friday night in the computer lab struggling. Took the final and it felt too easy. Got an A in the class, but I have no idea how. Guess that final was as easy as I thought.

Liberty's Edge

Sebastian wrote:
Tildes suck.

~prances around the emo pony boi~ Tildes do not suck! You are just jealous and do not understand them1 Soon they will be free from your Oppression! FREEDOM!!!

RPG Superstar 2012

Treppa wrote:
taig wrote:
You're no longer in the IT field, right? What made you decide to get out? If you don't mind my being nosy. :)

My employer and I agreed to part ways. I was totally unhappy and it showed. They were unhappy with me because of it (it's particularly bad in a manager). I let things go to the point that I can't even think about finding a job in the field. I'd rather work a drive-through window. I let the burn-out go too long. Cubicles make me nauseated.

Another mistake was going management. I no longer have technical skills that are marketable. Be warned!

I've been avoiding the management route. It's one of the frustrations I have with my new position, because they want me to take on more of a supervisory role. No thanks.

Sorry it got so bad for you. I'm worried I'm reaching that point.

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