Monopoly: 75th Anniversary Edition - WTF?


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Article here.

I'm definitely a purist because I'm enraged by this.


I want the edition that includes TARP bailout options.


In Hasbro's defense, apparently Monopoly was originally released with a round board, so this is partially a retro thing.

However, enough of this "in Hasbro's defense" nonsense. I wholeheartedly agree with the rage. This is just beyond stupid. Debit cards? Completely moronic.

I see two reasons for this.

One, demonstrably, Hasbro can't touch, it seems, without changing it drastically.

Two, this neatly allows them to eliminate one of their enemy's products: RADgames. Hasbro sued them to stop production of the "Super Add-Ons" product, and got smacked down in their attempt. This new board eliminates the usability of the current Super Add-Ons, and could possibly prevent (due to the small size of the center, and the placement of the idiotic card-swiper/card holder) a re-tooled Super Add-Ons from being utilized - though, perhaps RADgames can build a new version that this board sits inside - kind of an opposite version of what they're currently building. That'd be sweet to see.

As far as this new version goes, sadly, yet another classic has been butchered.


To be fair, Hasbro has released a few "new and updated" editions over the last decade or so, while still producing the classic version of the game as well. The debit card has been around in at least one version of the game, as have things like "speed dice." There was even a modern "world" version of the game that changed all of the properties and the little playing pieces.

I'm willing to bet that the "standard" version of Monopoly will still be published unless this version is insanely popular. The "variant" Monopolies seem to be a way to get fans of the game to pick up a new version every few years even before they need a new box of the classic version.


Twin Agate Dragons wrote:

Article here.

I'm definitely a purist because I'm enraged by this.

Um...okaay. Dare I ask why? It's just another of a thousand different variations of Monopoly.


If it's truly an alternative, and they continue to produce the "classic" Monopoly we know and love, I retract my displeasure/anger/rage at the change.

I do see that it's being titled "Monopoly Revolution", rather than just "Monopoly", so that may be the case.

News articles that I read on the release seemed to insinuate that this was a replacement for the classic game.


Brian E. Harris wrote:

If it's truly an alternative, and they continue to produce the "classic" Monopoly we know and love, I retract my displeasure/anger/rage at the change.

I do see that it's being titled "Monopoly Revolution", rather than just "Monopoly", so that may be the case.

News articles that I read on the release seemed to insinuate that this was a replacement for the classic game.

Back when they did the Millennium Edition of Monopoly, there were similar articles that were insinuating that "Monopoly" had changed, but they continued to make the traditional version along with the Millennium Edition.

This could be different, but I don't know why they would change the formula this time around.


EDITION WAR!

Tally ho!


KnightErrantJR wrote:

Back when they did the Millennium Edition of Monopoly, there were similar articles that were insinuating that "Monopoly" had changed, but they continued to make the traditional version along with the Millennium Edition.

This could be different, but I don't know why they would change the formula this time around.

Useless anecdotal observation:

I just got back from running errands. Decided to check out the local Super Wal-Mart, which had 7 variations of Monopoly, but no classic.

Closest was a version with "speed dice". They had a "debit card" version with the square board, and some other goofball varieties.

Now, I'm not an expert with retail planograms, but there wasn't any shelf space for any other variant - I checked labels/tags to see if it was just out, and other product was faced up in it's place to avoid holes. No such luck.

I'm driving to the coast for work tomorrow, I'll try to check the Wally World out there to see if it's different, as well as the Fred Meyer store.

The Exchange

Twin Agate Dragons wrote:

Article here.

I'm definitely a purist because I'm enraged by this.

This is just ridiculous, heck, I remember being taught basic addition and subtraction by being told to be the banker when I was still in elementary.

What is this cr@p?

Scarab Sages

F@#k em! I've got my classic version, and I'm keeping it.


This store still has it.

Oh, by the way, please write up one of those emails detailing how Hasbro is turning its back on everyone by creating this new Monopoly game and ditching the old classic version and even though hundreds of thousands of people are protesting it, they basically said "Frak you all. We're doing it anyway!" Or maybe they are trying to slip it in under our noses without us even realizing it. Yeah, I kind of like that even better. We need to boycot all new editions of Monopoly (and maybe all Hasbro games) until they bring back the classic version. Forward this email to everyone you know.

Sweet! In a few months, my mom will blindly forward this email to me without even checking Snopes and I'll be able to say "Hey, I started that one." :)


*Here because Buddy Holly couldn't make it*

Rage on, it's a crazy feelin'
I know, it's got me reelin'
I'm so mad, you're revealin' your stupidity to me...


Ahh, but is it mathematically balanced? Therein lies the rub. What if I start as the shoe, but want to change to the scottie dog after 3 trips around the board?

Zo


Frogboy wrote:
This store still has it.

That's the goofball speed die version on a small board.

Frogboy wrote:

Oh, by the way, please write up one of those emails detailing how Hasbro is turning its back on everyone by creating this new Monopoly game and ditching the old classic version and even though hundreds of thousands of people are protesting it, they basically said "Frak you all. We're doing it anyway!" Or maybe they are trying to slip it in under our noses without us even realizing it. Yeah, I kind of like that even better. We need to boycot all new editions of Monopoly (and maybe all Hasbro games) until they bring back the classic version. Forward this email to everyone you know.

Sweet! In a few months, my mom will blindly forward this email to me without even checking Snopes and I'll be able to say "Hey, I started that one." :)

Was there a point to that incoherent ramble?


That isn't the Monopoly I know and love.

If someone else likes it, go ahead.

No way I'd play though.

Silver Crusade

Maybe a well-liked third-party publisher (erm... game company) will come along with a backwards-compatible property game so that the game that Monopoly purists so enjoy will continue to be supported?

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Aberzombie wrote:
F@#k em! I've got my classic version, and I'm keeping it.

I just bought my family the classic version. We like it.


There can be only one!!!

Unless, of course, there's a few dozen

Shadow Lodge

No... oh gods no.

On the plus side, you can now throw Park Place at people frisbee style.


Brian E. Harris wrote:
Frogboy wrote:
This store still has it.
That's the goofball speed die version on a small board.

So they throw a "speed die" in the box and include some additional instructions on how to use it. Big deal. You can still play with the two d6s that come with the game...unless the picture of two d6s on the box is horribly misleading and are not included. Of course, I doubt any of us have extra d6s lying around.

Wasn't aware that the board was smaller. Still the same game though.

Brian E. Harris wrote:
Was there a point to that incoherent ramble?

Not really, no. These types of emails get started somehow, though. Just throwing the idea out there.


Ah, nothing sparks ye olde nerd rage like change of something they got any amount of joy from as a child.


Prince That Howls wrote:
Ah, nothing sparks ye olde nerd rage like change of something they got any amount of joy from as a child.

No doubt. We are a PITA customer base, are we not? I bet ol' George Lucas would have a few choice words to say about that.

Zo

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OMG! A change to Monopoly!?!? This is a travesty! How could this have happened? Why, dear god, why!?!?!

Oh wait...you were talking about Monopoly, the whore of board games, which has a different version for every movie, decade, community college, restaraunt, clothing brand, perfume, parking garage, airport, rec-center and Simpson's character (Edna Crabopoly FTW!)? Sorry to break it to everyone, but that ship sailed (and was sold out) a long time ago.

In any event, damn near every classic board game has been revamped for those darn kids-these-days. There are Disney princess versions of Sorry and Uno, a Spongebob Operation, and Dora Candyland. In each of these games, there is usually some small change to the underlying game mechanic usually because, well, the old games were pretty staid and boring. Monopoly is not a good game, it was just the first to inlclude toys and cards that played into the collector mentality of consumers. It's enjoyed goodwill well beyond the expiration date of that particular gimmick.

However, if I may now shift gears, I'd like to indulge in a "they ruined a board game" rant of my own. I picked up Operation for the kids for Christmas. Not only did they change all the pieces you remove (far too many of which are some form of snot, boogers, or toilets), they took out the basic card and cash mechanics. Now the guy just makes obnoxious noises (farts, burps, etc) and you have to determine what the noise is and remove the corresponding item.


Sebastian wrote:

OMG! A change to Monopoly!?!? This is a travesty! How could this have happened? Why, dear god, why!?!?!

Oh wait...you were talking about Monopoly, the whore of board games, which has a different version for every movie, decade, community college, restaraunt, clothing brand, perfume, parking garage, airport, rec-center and Simpson's character (Edna Crabopoly FTW!)? Sorry to break it to everyone, but that ship sailed (and was sold out) a long time ago.

In any event, damn near every classic board game has been revamped for those darn kids-these-days. There are Disney princess versions of Sorry and Uno, a Spongebob Operation, and Dora Candyland. In each of these games, there is usually some small change to the underlying game mechanic usually because, well, the old games were pretty staid and boring. Monopoly is not a good game, it was just the first to inlclude toys and cards that played into the collector mentality of consumers. It's enjoyed goodwill well beyond the expiration date of that particular gimmick.

However, if I may now shift gears, I'd like to indulge in a "they ruined a board game" rant of my own. I picked up Operation for the kids for Christmas. Not only did they change all the pieces you remove (far too many of which are some form of snot, boogers, or toilets), they took out the basic card and cash mechanics. Now the guy just makes obnoxious noises (farts, burps, etc) and you have to determine what the noise is and remove the corresponding item.

+1


DigMarx wrote:
Prince That Howls wrote:
Ah, nothing sparks ye olde nerd rage like change of something they got any amount of joy from as a child.

No doubt. We are a PITA customer base, are we not? I bet ol' George Lucas would have a few choice words to say about that.

Zo

Frankly I’m with George on that one. The prequels were fine, the only reason the nerd nation didn’t like them was because Lucas couldn’t magically make them 8 years old again when they went to go see it.

Paizo Employee Director of Brand Strategy

They did the same updating thing with Risk and Stratego, though now it seems they are selling the classic versions, at least in special "onyx" editions exclusively at Barnes & Noble.

Re the OP, for a purist, you sure have some funny properties for sale. That article mentions Kings Cross Station, Old Kent Road, and Mayfair—none of which exist in Atlantic City or the original board game.


Prince That Howls wrote:
Frankly I’m with George on that one. The prequels were fine, the only reason the nerd nation didn’t like them was because Lucas couldn’t magically make them 8 years old again when they went to go see it.

Well, maybe. My beef with those movies was with a very specific flub that they made. The originals did a very good job at removing most earthly influences and keeping just the universal concepts like love, respect, faith, friendship, etc. With the exception of the cantina which was, of course, a bar or pub, there wasn't really anything that made you think of a futuristic Earth. Even the cantina wasn't too overt since gathering for a drink can be effectively argued a universal concept.

Episodes I, II and III took me out of the experience of believing I was a long, long time ago in a galaxy far, far away. Too many earthly influences snuck in there. The announcer at the pod race used many cliche catch phrases like "Ooo, that's gotta hurt!" and such. The 1950's themed diner brought me home in a hurry and many other little things just didn't fit.

Add that to poor character development and long, pointless special effects sequences like the "always a bigger fish" scene and the magic of the originals was pretty much lost. Now they weren't horrible movies on their own but they really didn't bring anything new to the table.

...and don't get me started on how cheesy it was to see Darth Vader go "Nooooooooooooooo!" at the end of Episode III.


Frogboy wrote:

Now they weren't horrible movies on their own but they really didn't bring anything new to the table.

I disagree. It brought a lot of lore to the table. How the Jedi order actually functioned was never really referenced in the original trilogy. A lot of other expanded universe stuff was based off of information presented in the prequels. I for one think Knights of the Old Republic alone validates the entire trilogy. That and the lightsaber battles. Watching the old lightsaber fights is painful after seeing the Darth Maul fight in episode 1.


Prince That Howls wrote:
That and the lightsaber battles. Watching the old lightsaber fights is painful after seeing the Darth Maul fight in episode 1.

I wouldn't say painful, but it was cool to see a couple real jedi go at it rather then an old mechanical man and an inexperienced kid.

Though I know I'm one of the few that hated how they portrayed Yoda's fighting. I had always envisioned him doing the whole "old master" bit where he may move slow, but he's experienced enough and good enough that he already knows what you're gonna do, and his saber is already there to block/attack/whatever. When he started jumping around like Jet Li on crack I literally groaned right there in the theater.

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