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We know this is going to happen. We just do. Last year some 16 (I believe) lucky people got a few hours of schooling in the "craft well-painted miniatures" skill. This year it is going to happen again. Take this student, for example. Wouldn't you want to set magnificent minis down when you come to play?
My thought, let's get a video camera in there!
My new Sony Cybershot takes video AND audio, it might be nice to try and capture some of the tutorial process from the seminar--or record it separately.
I've done a little of that. Really the techniques are the same, whether metal, bare plastic, resin, or prepainted plastic. The only extra steps I'd add for prepainted plastic are
(1) Wash them gently with soap and water to make sure the mold release stuff is completely gone. This stuff makes the paint tend to stick poorly.
(2) Spray the mini with a clear sealant before you start painting it. This gives a consistent, acrylic-friendly base for your paint to stick to. I hear gloss spray is better than matte spray for this purpose; when you do the sealant over your customization, using matte will override the gloss.
Hmm, who'd be interested in a seminar on assembling and customizing minis?
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I've done a little of that. Really the techniques are the same, whether metal, bare plastic, resin, or prepainted plastic. The only extra steps I'd add for prepainted plastic are
(1) Wash them gently with soap and water to make sure the mold release stuff is completely gone. This stuff makes the paint tend to stick poorly.
(2) Spray the mini with a clear sealant before you start painting it. This gives a consistent, acrylic-friendly base for your paint to stick to. I hear gloss spray is better than matte spray for this purpose; when you do the sealant over your customization, using matte will override the gloss.Hmm, who'd be interested in a seminar on assembling and customizing minis?
raises hand.
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My new Sony Cybershot takes video AND audio, it might be nice to try and capture some of the tutorial process from the seminar--or record it separately.
Have a play with this before-hand. If you can get the quality high enough, and splice in some high-quality stills at appropriate stages, I'd happily pay for a DVD or movie download of this.
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raises hand.I've done a little of that. Really the techniques are the same, whether metal, bare plastic, resin, or prepainted plastic. The only extra steps I'd add for prepainted plastic are
(1) Wash them gently with soap and water to make sure the mold release stuff is completely gone. This stuff makes the paint tend to stick poorly.
(2) Spray the mini with a clear sealant before you start painting it. This gives a consistent, acrylic-friendly base for your paint to stick to. I hear gloss spray is better than matte spray for this purpose; when you do the sealant over your customization, using matte will override the gloss.Hmm, who'd be interested in a seminar on assembling and customizing minis?
I was just thinking that! I'd love to customize some of my pre painted plastic minis (re paint them AND/OR actually modify them) and would love a seminar!
Have a play with this before-hand. If you can get the quality high enough, and splice in some high-quality stills at appropriate stages, I'd happily pay for a DVD or movie download of this.My new Sony Cybershot takes video AND audio, it might be nice to try and capture some of the tutorial process from the seminar--or record it separately.
It's a 12mpix camera and records video in 640x480, so that shouldn't be a problem.
Whether or not someone things my half-assed painting tips are worth money is an entirely different story.... :)
Yes, that would be fun to see.
Somebody will need an assistance camera crew for next PC...
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It's a 12mpix camera and records video in 640x480, so that shouldn't be a problem.
I've had trouble with depth of field while trying to take stills of minis. It's pretty weird taking what you think is a good shot and then realising that the head and feet are both out of focus, hence the suggestion to have a good play before hand to save disappointment on the day. You may well have already cracked these problems though.
Whether or not someone things my half-assed painting tips are worth money is an entirely different story.... :)
I have a big stack of books and videos arranged around my painting desk from various folks. I figure if I collect enough half-assed tips, I'll have enough for a whole ass, or something like that :)
Seriously, I'm yet to chat to anyone about painting without learning something, and I'm not going to get to come and watch in person, so video would be great.
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I've done a little of that. Really the techniques are the same, whether metal, bare plastic, resin, or prepainted plastic. The only extra steps I'd add for prepainted plastic are
(1) Wash them gently with soap and water to make sure the mold release stuff is completely gone. This stuff makes the paint tend to stick poorly.
(2) Spray the mini with a clear sealant before you start painting it. This gives a consistent, acrylic-friendly base for your paint to stick to. I hear gloss spray is better than matte spray for this purpose; when you do the sealant over your customization, using matte will override the gloss.Hmm, who'd be interested in a seminar on assembling and customizing minis?
Last thursday, when we were talking to Tim I was thinking we should do a thing on how to assemble because to me that's the hardest part! I love it though :o)
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We know this is going to happen. We just do. Last year some 16 (I believe) lucky people got a few hours of schooling in the "craft well-painted miniatures" skill. This year it is going to happen again. Take this student, for example. Wouldn't you want to set magnificent minis down when you come to play?
My thought, let's get a video camera in there!
THANK YOU!
I've had trouble with depth of field while trying to take stills of minis. It's pretty weird taking what you think is a good shot and then realising that the head and feet are both out of focus, hence the suggestion to have a good play before hand to save disappointment on the day. You may well have already cracked these problems though.
It looks like my digicam can track multiple focus points, at least in macro mode, as it puts targeting reticules on several points on the mini. Or maybe it's just trying to fool me. :)
I have a big stack of books and videos arranged around my painting desk from various folks. I figure if I collect enough half-assed tips, I'll have enough for a whole ass, or something like that :)
Fair enough. :)
"Enough partial asses to make a full ass!" --my new motto
I'd be happy to see that, or anything like it, and I wouldn't mind helping out anyone who's there with beginner level model building or painting. I used to work for Games Workshop and I'm competent (I'd stray FAR away from calling myself advanced)... I love the hobby. Are there generally model tables at PaizoCon?
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I used to work for Games Workshop and I'm competent (I'd stray FAR away from calling myself advanced)... I love the hobby.
Any idea why the 'Eavy Metal crew have never put out a DVD of painting tutorials? Almost everyone else on the web who can hold a brush has, and GW are normally good at spotting an opportunity to make cash.
Are there generally model tables at PaizoCon?
There have only been two PaizoCons so far, and the first was fan-created, so we don't really have a precedent. We had one painting seminar by me last year, and I think that was the only thing in that category (most of it was RPGs). But if there's an interest, we can set up more.
I used to work for Games Workshop and I'm competent (I'd stray FAR away from calling myself advanced)... I love the hobby.Any idea why the 'Eavy Metal crew have never put out a DVD of painting tutorials? Almost everyone else on the web who can hold a brush has, and GW are normally good at spotting an opportunity to make cash.
I was with the company several years ago, but I think it has a lot to do with time constraints, and that painting articles are one of the ways they sell their magazine... not to mention the painting and modeling books. It can actually take up quite a bit of time to show a step by step tutorial and in order to show the level of work we're talking about (lots and lots of layers, wet-blending, all that other nifty stuff) it would be pretty time intensive.
Are there generally model tables at PaizoCon?There have only been two PaizoCons so far, and the first was fan-created, so we don't really have a precedent. We had one painting seminar by me last year, and I think that was the only thing in that category (most of it was RPGs). But if there's an interest, we can set up more.
ahh I see. I'm new to the whole Con experience, Paizocon will actually be my first convention. Well, put me down as one of the interested then, and I'd be happy to help anyone new to the hobby out (informally of course).
If I am able to go, a painting class would be one of my top priorities. Would this be limited to certain number of people? Would you be able to preregister for it?
It's limited by the size of the room. We planned for 20 people last year and brought enough materials for that many. I think we had 18 "preregistered" people show up, with a couple of last minute wander-ins.
As of yet I haven't painted any spaceships, but the techniques of how to use paint, how to do ink washes, and how to drybrush apply whether you're painting humanoids, monsters, buildings, spaceships, or terrain. If your roomie doesn't know how to do those things, it probably is worthwhile.
I'm also talking to Josh about an "introduction to making terrain" workshop.
Contributor, RPG Superstar 2010 Top 8
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As of yet I haven't painted any spaceships, but the techniques of how to use paint, how to do ink washes, and how to drybrush apply whether you're painting humanoids, monsters, buildings, spaceships, or terrain. If your roomie doesn't know how to do those things, it probably is worthwhile.
I'm also talking to Josh about an "introduction to making terrain" workshop.
I'm not sure if he knows how to do all of that, but I'll relay this information to him. Thanks!
Is there a sign-up for this? I've got this whole box of awesome undead from Warmachine that aren't steampunked up, and I've been sitting on it for a year or two now. Still in the box, still unpainted. Would love to break them open and learn some.
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If you are attending Norwescon 33 this year (April 1-4)...I am trying to put a Miniatures Painting workshop on the schedule, with Sean and some other industry people giving the basics and pointers.
It's not finalized at all, but it is a strong goal to provide such a workshop this year.
Got a link to an info page? I know not about Norwescon.
Is there a sign-up for this? I've got this whole box of awesome undead from Warmachine that aren't steampunked up, and I've been sitting on it for a year or two now. Still in the box, still unpainted. Would love to break them open and learn some.
When events for PaizoCon go live (we only summarized them for Josh last week, I think) you'll have info on how to sign up for events and such. :)
I'm sure once all the events are set up, there will be a big announcement on the site about it. :)
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My new Sony Cybershot takes video AND audio, it might be nice to try and capture some of the tutorial process from the seminar--or record it separately.
I am in. Also, I'll volunteer to run camera and edit it together if you like. I have a pro camera/audio rig I'll bring with me. You'd be body-mic-ed (unobtrusive) and will get us great audio. Your call on how to distribute it, but I'll be glad to make it freely available as part of our GamesU YouTube channel if you like.
DD
Cool! :)
LtlBtyRam raises boyfriend Khellendros460's hand for the mini painting workshop!!
Josh is in charge of scheduling stuff. I'll note that to him. Or he'll read this message. :)
I'm working on the Paizo Con schedule (and the Origins and Gen Con schedules) right now, in fact.
Cool! :)Any idea what day you are going to do this on? I also plan to shoot the MapMaking class for everyone, so I'd like to avoid a schedule conflict if I can.
I'd love to see that too Doug, please post when you have the video up. I can't make any events because I'm in Canada and it's too difficult to get away as much as I want to come to Paizocon. If only I could delay my wedding...
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Josh is in charge of scheduling stuff. I'll note that to him. Or he'll read this message. :)
Cool. If you want an idea want the final product will look like, have a look at this announcement about Erik's GamesU Keynote and follow the links.
Doug