Hi there,
I'm going to run the last encounter of Skinsaw tomorrow and I can't figure out if there's a save against Xanessha's wisdom drain.
do you guys know?
GRU
Hi there,
I'm going to run the last encounter of Skinsaw tomorrow and I can't figure out if there's a save against Xanessha's wisdom drain.
do you guys know?GRU
I do not believe so GRU - regular Lamia's Wisdom drain doesn't offer a saving throw, and as I recall Xanesha's stat block, niether does hers.
Normally a saving throw would be listed - that issue has the base critter in the back, so you can double check there real quick.
Thanks Turin!
no, there's no saving throw.
this is going to be one tough encounter...
GRU
Thanks Turin!
no, there's no saving throw.
this is going to be one tough encounter...GRU
Especially in 3.5 as compared to Pathfinder. Let us know how it goes please!
Do your research on how to make this encounter manageable. There's been a lot of TPKs for this one. One substitution seems to have been to switch the path's two Lamias.
Do your research on how to....
Hi Roguerrouge,
yep, this'll be hard, but they've got to very good garpplers (a monk and a Dex fighter) + they have discovered the "magic of debuffing".
the bard does good dmg with his bow.still, no cakewalk. but they're a crafty bunch and They're going to have a fun challenge with this, though I can see the dwarven cleric is going to have a hard time on the rotten stairs - falling bells and all...
I'll let you guys know how it went, and thanks for your advice.
It helped me to know that even in the event of a TPK, the adventure path can continue fairly easily from that point with new characters...
Just make sure your players know that it will be a really tough session, and they had better be on their game.
Also, slap anyone who complains about CR fairness.
It helped me to know that even in the event of a TPK, the adventure path can continue fairly easily from that point with new characters...
Just make sure your players know that it will be a really tough session, and they had better be on their game.
Also, slap anyone who complains about CR fairness.
Heh, we're playing without raise dead, resurrection and all that. when you're dead, you're REALLY dead...
they know that they will face something that has caused a lot of tpk's.GRU
I meant with new PCs, but that's cool. I admire your conviction.
I meant with new PCs, but that's cool. I admire your conviction.
I am convinced that they'll do a good job - they might even live to tell the tale...
but, yes HMM is a good place to start with new characters. they might meet at the heroes' funeral.
GRU
They're fighting the Scarecrow and are close to panic (but in a good way - they're having fun).
we've decided to call it a night...
Next Sunday the'll meet the big nasty X.
GRU
YES! WE DID IT! :D Holy kraut that was one scary encounter :O Im certainly getting myself some fly + see invisibility items for Althur ( im the dex fighter ). Never have I wanted a fly scroll more :'D
YES! WE DID IT! :D Holy kraut that was one scary encounter :O Im certainly getting myself some fly + see invisibility items for Althur ( im the dex fighter ). Never have I wanted a fly scroll more :'D
Yes, you all did fine!
now get off the RotRL board:-)GM/Dad
YES! WE DID IT! :D Holy kraut that was one scary encounter :O Im certainly getting myself some fly + see invisibility items for Althur ( im the dex fighter ). Never have I wanted a fly scroll more :'DYes, you all did fine!
now get off the RotRL board:-)GM/Dad
Dont worry, i tracked this thread through your user-name im not looking for spoilers :p I just wanted to share my joy of still being alive with you guys :D
We literally cheered and hooted when the cleric took her out^^ It was beautiful :')
YES! WE DID IT! :D Holy kraut that was one scary encounter :O Im certainly getting myself some fly + see invisibility items for Althur ( im the dex fighter ). Never have I wanted a fly scroll more :'DYes, you all did fine!
now get off the RotRL board:-)GM/Dad
Dont worry, i tracked this thread through your user-name im not looking for spoilers :p I just wanted to share my joy of still being alive with you guys :D
We literally cheered and hooted when the cleric took her out^^ It was beautiful :')
hee hee - I'll post a "My Players Killed Xanesha" later this week (and I'll send you guys a link).
GRU
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i just dont know how this fight is winnable with anything but unbelievably twink characters ( and forwarning of a epic scale)THere is no way the pregen characters in the back could possible win the fight> and dispel only take one spell off at a time> how did they hit her ac? i guess a DM could play out her abilities poorly but im just not sure.
my group only had minimal problems with the golem ( the dusk blade and warlock were neutered with its immunity to magic) i even put a wand of dispel magic in Aldern secret lion> i ran the first combat with XAnashi as a nightmare fight ( i had the bell knock the out and they didnt know it) i ran it as normal in the books because my pcs said they wanted to fight the real fight at the end. In suprise, i tried to petrify some one (they saved) first round of combat Xan came down and one shot the Duskblade ( higer crit weapon+ Power attack +x3 equals past neg con)the party fled to inside the bell tower to limit her flight (silly enough the Warlock couldnt hit her touch ac and started to flee with flee the scene I dimension door in front of him and killed him next round) the cleric and the fighter tried to fight her on the stairs but she destroyed the fighter on the first full round. the cleric cast a spell ( and she saved) and tried to leap to his death ( he was a cloistered cleric and at like 8hp a heal was not even going to delay his death) but i used a attack of opportunity to hit him as he moved and impailed him>
they woke up and just wanted to leave. they finally got there nerve and fought the base lamia matriarch in the back of the book and THAT nearly killed them all ( i did have to make some kinda poor tactical choices so that they could win) the CR is not right for the lamia matriarch prolly 2 higher
i just dont know how this fight is winnable with anything but unbelievably twink characters ( and forwarning of a epic scale)
In my game
So they did have forewarning, but while it was a very hard fight for them they did manage to beat her without me pulling any punches.(Though I did roll a "1" in the second round of fighting on her first attack, which I rule that all attacks following are lost, and the Paladin ended up taking 140 points of damage the following round after that squishing him pretty good)
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i just dont know how this fight is winnable with anything but unbelievably twink characters ( and forwarning of a epic scale)THere is no way the pregen characters in the back could possible win the fight> and dispel only take one spell off at a time>
From d20SRD, Dispel Magic:
Targeted Dispel
One object, creature, or spell is the target of the dispel magic spell. You make a dispel check (1d20 + your caster level, maximum +10) against the spell or against each ongoing spell currently in effect on the object or creature. The DC for this dispel check is 11 + the spell’s caster level. If you succeed on a particular check, that spell is dispelled; if you fail, that spell remains in effect.
One spell targeted on X (a creature) has a chance of dispelling all of her ongoing effects and her CL is 8th for all effects except for Mirror Image which is 10th, so dispel magic is a very powerful option.
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my hard copy says: (make one dispel check DC 11+your caster level, if successful that spell ends. if not compare the same result to the spell with the next highest caster level. repeat this process until you have dispelled ONE SPELL AFFECTING THE TARGET, or you have failed to dispel every spell... it continues with a example) stripping all spells at once could definitely assist in this fight greatly. I didnt see any errata stating otherwise. (if there is direct me to it please)
my hard copy says: (make one dispel check DC 11+your caster level, if successful that spell ends. if not compare the same result to the spell with the next highest caster level. repeat this process until you have dispelled ONE SPELL AFFECTING THE TARGET, or you have failed to dispel every spell... it continues with a example) stripping all spells at once could definitely assist in this fight greatly. I didnt see any errata stating otherwise. (if there is direct me to it please)
He referenced the D20SRD instead of the PRD which is where the difference is
My group made it through with some luck, allies from the city guard, and the Beta version of Dispel Magic (which still affected all the spells on the target), twice.
They bypassed the Scarecrow though, through some clever interrogation.