Somewhere, sometime, in some D20 book, I remember coming across a feat that let a multiclass Monk/Druid use his monk abilities in animal form.
I am drawing a complete blank as to where I saw it.
Anyone have any idea? Comments on the conversion to PF?
Somewhere, sometime, in some D20 book, I remember coming across a feat that let a multiclass Monk/Druid use his monk abilities in animal form.
I am drawing a complete blank as to where I saw it.Anyone have any idea? Comments on the conversion to PF?
Not sure of what feat you're talking about. Its not in the DnD3.5Index-Feats PDF. (wonders about the balance issues of letting a wild shaped druid flurry in dire bear/elemental form)
[laughs] at the thought of a dire bear round house kicking Chuck Norris in the face [/laughs]
I can see why this feat was never printed as the 3.5 druid was plenty powerful as is. Do recall what class abilities the feat allowed to be used while wild shaped. Do you recall if it was one of those feats that let you count your druid levels towards X monk ability(ies)/monk levels towards X druid ability(ies).
A little more elaboration on your request might make finding this feat a little bit easier.
-AK
Unfortunately it was one of those feats that I read and thought "Huh that's strange why would anyone do that". Now, it's actually come up in a game I'm in.
All I remember is the feat let a Druid/Monk use flurry of blows, as well as get the Wisdom bonus to AC while wildshaped.
I doubt any kind of roundhouse kicks or the like would be used, I think it was more using the animal's natural attacks instead of the unarmed strike of a monk.
Our group has been toying with the idea of a Druid/Monk combo as the supreme fighter (Self Augmenting, Magic Fang to enchant your fists, etc) and now one has finally been made. Now however the talk has come up about using Flurry and getting the AC bonus while wildshaped.
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Somewhere, sometime, in some D20 book, I remember coming across a feat that let a multiclass Monk/Druid use his monk abilities in animal form.
I am drawing a complete blank as to where I saw it.Anyone have any idea? Comments on the conversion to PF?
I kind of lost track of the various 3.5 errata to wildshape and polymorph.
However, the version I have (which is not the latest version, as wildshape later became tied to Alternate Form rather than polymorph) goes down the following tortuous route :-
Wildshape acts as polymorph (except as stated)
Polymorph acts as alter self (except as stated)
Alter self allows you to keep all your extraordinary special abilities gained from class levels
A monk's AC bonus and Flurry of Blows are extraordinary special abilities gained from class levels
It does not fall under any of the wildshape exceptions to polymorph
It does not fall under any of the polymorph exceptions to alter self
So monk/druids gain the AC bonus and flurry of blows in animal form. No feat is needed.
I would also like to point out there have been debates in the past about flurry and natural weapons... in animal form you would not be able to use claws for flurry even if you can use flurry... and I have no idea if you can
I've pretty sure its been cleared up that a natural weapon is not an unarmed strike, so you can't flurry with it. Once you get a form that is humanoid (like elemental) then you can choose to either do the slams, or flurry, but slams win out because of the damage.
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From "Flurry of Blows", under monk:
A monk applies his full Strength bonus to his damage rolls for all successful attacks made with flurry of blows, whether the attacks are made with an off-hand or with a weapon wielded in both hands. A monk may substitute disarm, sunder, and trip combat maneuvers for unarmed attacks as part of a flurry of blows. A monk cannot use any weapon other than an unarmed strike or a special monk weapon as part of a flurry of blows. A monk with natural weapons cannot use such weapons as part of a flurry of blows, nor can he make natural attacks in addition to his flurry of blows attacks.
Specifically tailor-made to explain why flurry + wildshape won't work in PFS.
But can you make unarmed strikes as a bear without using your natural weapons?