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The Howlers in the Asmodean Knot. Is their baying constant, and if not, what are the mechanics for them howling during combat? The only part of the stat block that mentions anything along this line is "Their constant howling."
Howlers are not in the Bestiary, and their howling is completely different in the 3.5 Monster Manual.
Since my players used countersong, this is important, for if it was constant, then 8 rounds of bardic music were used. Considering what's in store for them up ahead, they could use those 7 rounds of music if the howling is not constant.
Thanks for the help!
The Howlers in the Asmodean Knot. Is their baying constant, and if not, what are the mechanics for them howling during combat? The only part of the stat block that mentions anything along this line is "Their constant howling."
Howlers are not in the Bestiary, and their howling is completely different in the 3.5 Monster Manual.
Since my players used countersong, this is important, for if it was constant, then 8 rounds of bardic music were used. Considering what's in store for them up ahead, they could use those 7 rounds of music if the howling is not constant.
Thanks for the help!
I have no idea if this is right, but the way I read it, the players make one save for each of the howlers when they first encounter them. If they fail any of the saves, they are affected by the curse. If they make all of the saves, they are unaffected by any of the howlers for the duration. I think the howling is constant, but I don't think they continually make saves each round until they fail.
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I want to say, one player, the bard, made his perception, so he got to act with them on the surprise round. He rolled a higher initiative, made a high enough knowledge check to know that they were Howlers, and that they howled, so he started countersong before they started to howl. Therefore, the countersong replaced all the saves and everyone "made" their save.
From what you say, he could have stopped the countersong.
...I could have a knowledge check for knowing that even though the Howlers kept on, they weren't subject to it anymore.
From what you say, he could have stopped the countersong.
...I could have a knowledge check for knowing that even though the Howlers kept on, they weren't subject to it anymore.
That's my *very* humble opinion. Would love to see how others read it.
How high was the original knowledge check? That would probably determine how much more they knew about the howlers. But, it seems fine to have another knowledge check to remember that they were no longer affected by the howl after the first round.