In 3.5, the rule says that creatures can fly only if they have a Light load (reference):
Fly
A creature with a fly speed can move through the air at the indicated speed if carrying no more than a light load...
Try as I might, I can't seem to be able to locate a similar rules in Pathfinder... Any one knows where this rule is hiding? Or has it just been removed from Pathfinder?
Thanks!
RiTz21
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In 3.5, the rule says that creatures can fly only if they have a Light load (reference):
Fly
A creature with a fly speed can move through the air at the indicated speed if carrying no more than a light load...Try as I might, I can't seem to be able to locate a similar rules in Pathfinder... Any one knows where this rule is hiding? Or has it just been removed from Pathfinder?
Thanks!
RiTz21
http://TheOnlySheet.com
I think it is ther somewhere, but cannot remember exatly.
p.162 mentions mounts in medium and heavy armor though.
p.162 mentions mounts in medium and heavy armor though.
P162 of the CRB does indeed mention that Flying mounts can't fly with Medium/Heavy Barding... But what about Medium/Heavy loads?
RiTz21
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p.162 mentions mounts in medium and heavy armor though.P162 of the CRB does indeed mention that Flying mounts can't fly with Medium/Heavy Barding... But what about Medium/Heavy loads?
RiTz21
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A medium or heavy load counts as medium or heavy armor for the purpose of abilities or skills that are restricted by armor.
(That's in the section that talks about Carrying Capacity.)
The quote on p. 162 mentions barding, not armor. While all barding is armor, not all armor is barding. Therefore, it is not necessarily saying that creatures that don't wear barding cannot fly with medium and heavy armor on. In fact:
The Solar Angel is flying around with a 150 fly speed while wearing +5 full plate.
Yes but I don't think it is reliable to extrapolate rules back from individual monsters esp. angels and high magic muckity-mucks. For all we know the +5 plate might be made from a leaf of parchment fortified with a deities name....
I don't think there's a problem with a solar flying in +5 full plate.
A solar isn't a flying mount. Likewise, a solar doesn't wear barding. Because both these statements are true, nothing written in the PRD prevents a solar from flying with heavy armor.
I don't think there's a problem with a solar flying in +5 full plate.
A solar isn't a flying mount. Likewise, a solar doesn't wear barding. Because both these statements are true, nothing written in the PRD prevents a solar from flying with heavy armor.
The OP's question was regarding the ruling in 3.5 that specifically forbade flying creatures of all kinds from flying while wearing medium or heavy armor or carrying a medium or heavy load. Such wording does not exist in PF. What if a DM decides to use Raptorans (Races of the Wild). Under 3.5 rules, they would not be capable of flight with medium or heavy armor. In PF, those rules are unclear. What about a Half-Celestial Human? What about a Half-Dragon Ogre? Can they wear medium or heavy armor and still fly around? The rules don't seem to indicate.
The OP's question was regarding the ruling in 3.5 that specifically forbade flying creatures of all kinds from flying while wearing medium or heavy armor or carrying a medium or heavy load. Such wording does not exist in PF.
Wait, where does it say in 3.5 that you can't fly in heavy armor?
I thought we were talking about the rule that you can only fly in 3.5 if you have a light load (which is kind of ridiculous if magic is involved).
The OP's question was regarding the ruling in 3.5 that specifically forbade flying creatures of all kinds from flying while wearing medium or heavy armor or carrying a medium or heavy load. Such wording does not exist in PF.Wait, where does it say in 3.5 that you can't fly in heavy armor?
I thought we were talking about the rule that you can only fly in 3.5 if you have a light load (which is kind of ridiculous if magic is involved).
Ah, that is a good point. That clears things up a bit. It seems that PF has removed that issue. You can now fly with a heavier load. Perhaps it simply gives you a penalty on fly checks? Maybe equal to your Armor Check Penalty due to load? I dunno.