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Is there a spreadsheet for what flip maps are in what society adventures?
I just bought the theater flip map. Love it. And would be happy to add another adventure that uses it.
This is off the top of my head:
PFS#1 No FM suggested but Cathedral usefulPFS#2 No FM suggested but Ship & Water map useful
PFS#3 No FM
PFS#4 No FM suggested but might use Ship & Waterfront Tavern with some adjustment
PFS#5 No FM
PFS#6 No FM
PFS#7 No FM suggested but Theatre with some adjustment
PFS#8 No FM suggested but Ship useful
PFS#9 Paizo’s “Sewers” Map Pack suggested
PFS#10 No FM
PFS#11 Paizo’s “Caravan” Map Pack suggested
PFS#12 No FM
PFS#13 No FM but might adapt with Sewers Map Pack
PFS#14 City Market flip mat suggested
PFS#15 Desert flip mat suggested
PFS#16 No FM
PFS#17 No FM suggested but Darklands or Dragon’s Lair with some adjustment
PFS#18 Mountain Pass flip mat suggested
PFS#19 No FM
PFS#20 No FM
PFS#21 I haven’t played
PFS#22 No FM
PFS#23 No FM
PFS#24 Paizo’s “Campsites” Map Pack suggested
PFS#25 Mountain Pass suggested
PFS#26 No FM
PFS#27 Paizo's "Graveyard" Map Pack suggested
PFS#28 I haven’t played
PFS#29 Waterfront Tavern and Ship Flip mats suggested
PFS#30 No FM
PFS#31 I haven’t played
PFS#32 Darklands flip mat suggested
PFS#33 Woodlands flip mat suggested
PFS#34 Woodlands flip mat suggested
PFS#35 I haven't played
PFS#36 I haven't played
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Corrections:
PFS#26 Paizo's "Campsites" Map Pack suggested
PFS#34 River Crossing flip mat suggested
If anyone else spots errors/omissions please speak up. Perhaps Yoda could add this to the Pathfinder Wiki?
I always prefer to draw my maps ahead of time rather than adapt a flip mat to the scenario. I understand the utility of a flip mat for GMs who don't have the resources or time to draw maps. They certainly beat a bunch of scrawl on a Chessex map. But sometimes they don't quite capture what was described in the boxed text.
I know it's a lot of work to custom design maps for each scenario, but I hope Paizo will continue to put the work into PFS that has gone into the Adventure Paths and other printed products. I did consider writing a submission for PFS called "The Sell Out" including/plugging every Game Mastery product Paizo sells. Not sure if everyone appreciates my sense of humor...
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Like Doug, I agree that flip-mats work well for a time-pressed GM, but using them to design encounters really limits the possiblities of those encounters.
On the other hand, playing more than once on the same terrain allows players to try different strategies that are informed by their previous experience. I'm always DM'ing, but if I could play I might like to try a couple different encounters on "Woodlands" for instance, to try different approaches to the terrain.
Thanks for starting this thread. One of my players asked if there was any comprehensive list like this just recently.
When a Flip-Mat or Map Pack shows up in a scenario, it's not really a "suggestion" especially when we use the actual map. :-)
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When a Flip-Mat or Map Pack shows up in a scenario, it's not really a "suggestion" especially when we use the actual map. :-)
But it's not a requirement either ;) I own five flip mats and have 5 different ongoing subscriptions to Paizo products so I don't feel disloyal if I choose to draw out a map ahead of time when I GM.
I think the City Market in PFS#14 The Many Fortunes of Grandmaster Torch is a perfect example.
If I can draw out a map that resembles a Qadiran marketplace and accounts for the scale of combat that is going to take place there, I think it's a better experience for the players in the end. I think the flip mats are a great product (they certainly beat the hell out of Dungeon Tiles) but you know I am a map snob.
Well, yes, I certainly don't expect everyone to buy the Flip-Mats we use in the scenarios. :-)
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If anyone else spots errors/omissions please speak up. Perhaps Yoda could add this to the Pathfinder Wiki?
We've discussed it, but think it might open a pandora's box we don't want to deal with. If we include this, why not also include the Pathfinder minis line and suggestions of what to use in what adventures, etc. It's hard enough keeping up with setting canon, that adding in non-canon support like this could get out of hand. It might be a good thing for dragnmoon's PFS site or one of the other Pathfinder databases, though.
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If anyone else spots errors/omissions please speak up. Perhaps Yoda could add this to the Pathfinder Wiki?We've discussed it, but think it might open a pandora's box we don't want to deal with. If we include this, why not also include the Pathfinder minis line and suggestions of what to use in what adventures, etc. It's hard enough keeping up with setting canon, that adding in non-canon support like this could get out of hand. It might be a good thing for dragnmoon's PFS site or one of the other Pathfinder databases, though.
Thanks for the consideration. Good points all.
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When a flip mat or tiles are suggested or possible to use, I always use them. The players dig the high quality maps and I enjoy the detail. I think I create cool maps, but I cannot compete with the quality of the flip mats. I keep the flip mats in an Art Portfolio so they can stay flat and are easy to transport and then the inside pockets hold home made maps and tiles.
Some scenario's have cool maps that are not available for purchase. #23 Tide or Morning is a good example. I purchase the foam core sheets and then 3M glue the gaming paper to them so I can use them multiple times for PFS. For Tide of Morning, I drew the map on this type of foam board, then I cut out blue foam and built the druid's circle in 3D. It looked awesome and the players loved it. I also took the ship flip mat, cut out each level of the ship and then built it into a 3D model.
Most scenario's have you develop at least one map, which I try to pre-draw so I don't waste valuable game time drawing, but I use the flip mats and tiles as often as I can.
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I pre-draw 93% of my maps but I do use flip maps when they accurately depict the scene. Sometimes I think they are shoe-horned in but that practice is rare. Carrying maps for every scenario is becoming a burden. The problem is transporting and organizing over a hundred sheets of giant graph paper. Last weekend I juggled five 3'-long mailing tubes of maps for every scenario I was prepped to run. I'll have six tubes by Origins (and I'll also have a luggage cart).
Update:
PFS#1 No FM suggested but Cathedral useful
PFS#2 No FM suggested but Ship & Water map useful
PFS#3 No FM
PFS#4 No FM suggested but might use Ship & Waterfront Tavern with some adjustment
PFS#5 No FM
PFS#6 No FM
PFS#7 No FM suggested but Theatre with some adjustment
PFS#8 No FM suggested but Ship useful
PFS#9 Paizo’s “Sewers” Map Pack suggested
PFS#10 No FM
PFS#11 Paizo’s “Caravan” Map Pack suggested
PFS#12 No FM
PFS#13 No FM but might adapt with Sewers Map Pack
PFS#14 City Market flip mat suggested
PFS#15 Desert flip mat suggested
PFS#16 No FM
PFS#17 No FM suggested but Darklands or Dragon’s Lair with some adjustment
PFS#18 Mountain Pass flip mat suggested
PFS#19 No FM
PFS#20 No FM
PFS#21 No FM
PFS#22 No FM
PFS#23 No FM
PFS#24 Paizo’s “Campsites” Map Pack suggested
PFS#25 Mountain Pass suggested
PFS#26 No FM
PFS#27 Paizo's "Graveyard" Map Pack suggested
PFS#28 Cathedral flip map suggested
PFS#29 Waterfront Tavern and Ship Flip mats suggested
PFS#30 No FM
PFS#31 No FM
PFS#32 Darklands flip mat suggested
PFS#33 Woodlands flip mat suggested
PFS#34 Woodlands flip mat suggested
PFS#35 No FM
PFS#36 No FM
PFS#37 No FM
PFS#38 I haven't played
PFS#39 No FM
PFS#40 I haven't played
PFS#41 Dungeon flip mat suggested, Cities of Golarion Map Folio useful
PFS#42 I haven't played
PFS#43 I haven't played
PFS#44 I haven't played
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6 tubes? You are my hero Doug Doug! It is good to be prepared. You may want to consider a hireling. Considering the Leadership Feat is not legal for PFS, you are out of luck there. For the last convention I ran five different games so I kept the different material in the back seat of my truck and only lugged around what I needed, which was still a pain.
I saw Doug's setup at Origins last year and it was amazing. We had a few issues with the folks running our setup and every single time an issue came up, Doug had a solution in his Magic Traveling Pathfinder Society Wagon.
"Oh, you're not the appropriate level for this scenario? No worries, I have another 20 I'm prepared to run for your level!"
I heard that a few times. ;-)
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Ey, Doug, where do you get the paper for those maps you draw? Being a fairly big map-guy myself, I would honestly love going with the same system you do, predrawing the maps on one-inch grids before games and whatnot.
Well, yes, I certainly don't expect everyone to buy the Flip-Mats we use in the scenarios. :-)
I probably will, though. I, uh, love maps. Hence why I buy a ridiculous amount of Dungeon Tiles, Map Packs, and Flip Maps.
If I was able to afford a HP Deskjet 1055CM (aka 36" printer) along with the paper, ink, and color cartridges, my world would be complete.
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Ey, Doug, where do you get the paper for those maps you draw? Being a fairly big map-guy myself, I would honestly love going with the same system you do, predrawing the maps on one-inch grids before games and whatnot.
I'll give a shout to gaming paper (currently on backorder). Everyone who has used this stuff loves it and it is very economical. I buy my paper from Staples or Office Depot. You can find it in the section where they sell the oversized easel paper pads and poster board. If you aren't close to one of those stores you can order it online. It is expensive but I like it better than anything I've used previous.
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Ey, Doug, where do you get the paper for those maps you draw? Being a fairly big map-guy myself, I would honestly love going with the same system you do, predrawing the maps on one-inch grids before games and whatnot.I'll give a shout to gaming paper (currently on backorder). Everyone who has used this stuff loves it and it is very economical. I buy my paper from Staples or Office Depot. You can find it in the section where they sell the oversized easel paper pads and poster board. If you aren't close to one of those stores you can order it online. It is expensive but I like it better than anything I've used previous.
Excellent, thank you very much!
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The problem is transporting and organizing over a hundred sheets of giant graph paper. Last weekend I juggled five 3'-long mailing tubes of maps for every scenario I was prepped to run. I'll have six tubes by Origins (and I'll also have a luggage cart).
I got a really cool tube at Office Depot. It expands in length if you have any wide stuff. It is also about 3" in width, so it can hold a lot of the graph paper you are talking about. Granted you would have to stack them up and roll them all together. It even has a strap on it you can use to sling it over your shoulder.
Link to it here, but I got mine in store
P.S. Your suggestion about the easel pads made me go get it & I love it.
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The problem is transporting and organizing over a hundred sheets of giant graph paper. Last weekend I juggled five 3'-long mailing tubes of maps for every scenario I was prepped to run. I'll have six tubes by Origins (and I'll also have a luggage cart).I got a really cool tube at Office Depot. It expands in length if you have any wide stuff. It is also about 3" in width, so it can hold a lot of the graph paper you are talking about. Granted you would have to stack them up and roll them all together. It even has a strap on it you can use to sling it over your shoulder.
Link to it here, but I got mine in store
P.S. Your suggestion about the easel pads made me go get it & I love it.
Cool! I've picked up something similar called an Ice Tube which is transparent so I can at least see the outer map that's stored inside. No matter the sort of tube, I can only fit about 25 pages of maps within (about 8 scenarios). Josh keeps on making my job harder every time he releases a new scenario!
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Might any of you kind folks that have run more than the half dozen scenarios I've run be kind enough to update the list?
Thanks,
William
This is updated through the first two seasons.... I will go through season 2 this week and put those in there..