ok, i just read through the rules on page 397 and 398 of the Core Rule book, but I am still stumped....
I have a party of five 1st level level characters. They faced 30 goblins, CR= 1/3, XP =135 each.
Unfortunately, the characters survived, so how many XP would they each receive?
Way long ago, the calc would go: 30 goblins x 125 xp = 4050 XP
4050 xp divided by five characters equals = 810 XP per character.
Is that correct?
Page 399 says that "each monster, etc., awards a set amount of XP, as determined by its CR..." What does that mean? If you kill a goblin, you get 135 XP right? How does the goblin CR of 1/3 affect the XP awarded?
Any help would be appreciated.
ok, i just read through the rules on page 397 and 398 of the Core Rule book, but I am still stumped....
I have a party of five 1st level level characters. They faced 30 goblins, CR= 1/3, XP =135 each.
Unfortunately, the characters survived, so how many XP would they each receive?
Way long ago, the calc would go: 30 goblins x 125 xp = 4050 XP
4050 xp divided by five characters equals = 810 XP per character.
Is that correct?
Page 399 says that "each monster, etc., awards a set amount of XP, as determined by its CR..." What does that mean? If you kill a goblin, you get 135 XP right? How does the goblin CR of 1/3 affect the XP awarded?
Any help would be appreciated.
In Pathfinder each monster grants an amount of xp. That xp is divided up between the PC's sort-of!.
Look at table 12-2 on page 398.
A 1/3 CR creature grants 35 XP each for 3-5 PC's [it's 45 each for 1-3 PC's and 25 each for 6+ PC's]
So that's 35 X 30 = 1050 xp each.
In 3.5 that's enough to level but in Pathfinder on page 30 it shows you the XP progression.
2nd level requires 3000 - 2000 - 1300 [dedending on the speed you want your PC's to level]
See, clear as mud !
A couple of things:
Divvying up XP: There are two ways to do this:
Encounters with several critters: Easy! You just add everything up. An encounter with 5 CR 1 soldiers, 1 CR 3 lieutenant and a CR 6 captain is 5 x 400 + 1 x 800 + 1 x 2400 = 5200 XP.
Calculating the encounter level (EL): Instead of 3e's system where you apply some formulae/rules to the challenge ratings themselves (i.e. "2 x CR = CR+2" or "CR-1 + CR = CR+1", you just add up the Total XP yields and look that up on the table:
Going with the encounter before, in 3e you'd have something like "5 x CR 1 = CR5 -> CR5 + CR6 = CR7, adding the CR3 gets you 7 or 8 or something???" And it would end with total and utter confusion, allowing the players to take advantage of your befuddlement to get free level-ups or something like that (well, maybe not, but it could still be confusing)
In Pathfinder, you do the adding up and get 5200 XP, as mentioned above. Looking at the chart, it's a bit more than what you'd get for CR 8 (which is 4800 XP), but still a lot closer to 8 than 9 (6400 XP). That means it's a CR 8 encounter with a bit of an extra punch.
It works backwards, too: Say your goal was to have a small squad of soldiers with a CR of 8. You get 4800 XP for that.
Now, you want the commander to be CR 6, which costs you 2400 XP (fully half the amount, which just shows that like in 3e, 2 x CR = CR+2 in PF). You also want a subcommander, say, CR 3. Another 800 XP gone, leaving you 1600 for the rest of the squad. Looking at the chart, that would give you 4 CR 1 soldiers (human fighter 2 or warrior 3). Or maybe 8 CR 1/2 soldiers (which would be a human fighter 1 or warrior 2) or even (almost) 12 CR 1/3 soldiers (human warrior 1).
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ok, i just read through the rules on page 397 and 398 of the Core Rule book, but I am still stumped....
I have a party of five 1st level level characters. They faced 30 goblins, CR= 1/3, XP =135 each.
Unfortunately, the characters survived, so how many XP would they each receive?
Way long ago, the calc would go: 30 goblins x 125 xp = 4050 XP
4050 xp divided by five characters equals = 810 XP per character.
Is that correct?
Page 399 says that "each monster, etc., awards a set amount of XP, as determined by its CR..." What does that mean? If you kill a goblin, you get 135 XP right? How does the goblin CR of 1/3 affect the XP awarded?
Any help would be appreciated.
What was so unfortunate about your party surviving?
Ok can you help me calculate the CR and exp award of this encounter?
I have 8 Level 2 PCs and a level 1 npc versus a Level 4 druid plus animal companion and 16 1/3 CR goblins.
What is that CR?
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Ok can you help me calculate the CR and exp award of this encounter?
I have 8 Level 2 PCs and a level 1 npc versus a Level 4 druid plus animal companion and 16 1/3 CR goblins.
What is that CR?
The druid is a CR 3 creature (as a creature with no hit dice except his class, he is CR class level -1) and the Goblins are CR 7 (CR 1/3 advanced 8 steps for having 16 of them). The animal companion is a class feature of the druid and is not calculated separately.
If you used the detailed XP, the party would get 4000 XP in total (800+3200) split 9 ways for 444XP each. If you decided to ignore the NPC it would be split eight ways for 500XP.
If you use the inexact split, they would get 670 each from the 6+ characters column.
What was so unfortunate about your party surviving?
Just a little tongue-in-cheek humor... ;)
A couple of things:
Divvying up XP: There are two ways to do this:
The exact way: Add up all XP and divide by number of characters. So if you have 4 characters and 500 XP to divvy up, each character gets 125 XP.
Quick and dirty: Use the numbers given on the XP table. Those numbers aren't always exact, but they're close enough, and save you the hassle of dividing the numbers yourself. Encounters with several critters: Easy! You just add everything up. An encounter with 5 CR 1 soldiers, 1 CR 3 lieutenant and a CR 6 captain is 5 x 400 + 1 x 800 + 1 x 2400 = 5200 XP.
Calculating the encounter level (EL): Instead of 3e's system where you apply some formulae/rules to the challenge ratings themselves (i.e. "2 x CR = CR+2" or "CR-1 + CR = CR+1", you just add up the Total XP yields and look that up on the table:
Going with the encounter before, in 3e you'd have something like "5 x CR 1 = CR5 -> CR5 + CR6 = CR7, adding the CR3 gets you 7 or 8 or something???" And it would end with total and utter confusion, allowing the players to take advantage of your befuddlement to get free level-ups or something like that (well, maybe not, but it could still be confusing)
In Pathfinder, you do the adding up and get 5200 XP, as mentioned above. Looking at the chart, it's a bit more than what you'd get for CR 8 (which is 4800 XP), but still a lot closer to 8 than 9 (6400 XP). That means it's a CR 8 encounter with a bit of an extra punch.
It works backwards, too: Say your goal was to have a small squad of soldiers with a CR of 8. You get 4800 XP for that.
Now, you want the commander to be CR 6, which costs you 2400 XP (fully half the amount, which just shows that like in 3e, 2 x CR = CR+2 in PF). You also want a subcommander, say, CR 3. Another 800 XP gone, leaving you 1600 for the rest of the squad. Looking at the chart, that would give you 4 CR 1 soldiers (human fighter 2 or warrior 3). Or maybe 8 CR 1/2 soldiers (which would be a human fighter 1 or warrior 2) or even (almost) 12...
With 3.5 5x CR1 = EL5, CR3+EL5=EL6, 2xCR6=EL8
So with your example you land on an EL 8 encounter.Still XP are calculated from individual monster XP. I.e. (5xCR1)+CR3+CR6
Ok can you help me calculate the CR and exp award of this encounter?
I have 8 Level 2 PCs and a level 1 npc versus a Level 4 druid plus animal companion and 16 1/3 CR goblins.
What is that CR?
The druid is a CR 3 creature (as a creature with no hit dice except his class, he is CR class level -1) and the Goblins are CR 7 (CR 1/3 advanced 8 steps for having 16 of them). The animal companion is a class feature of the druid and is not calculated separately.
If you used the detailed XP, the party would get 4000 XP in total (800+3200) split 9 ways for 444XP each. If you decided to ignore the NPC it would be split eight ways for 500XP.
If you use the inexact split, they would get 670 each from the 6+ characters column.
That is not quite correct. You must never add up CRs. You only add XP awards.
16 goblins are 16 x CR1/3. You do not calculate an EL or alternate CR.
I.e. they are worth 16 x 135 = 2160 xp (which you could compare to a CR 2 creature). Since the party is larger than 6 characters I would recomed just using the total XP collumn on p.398.
The druid and the companion are indeed just one CR 4 creature = 1200 xp
That is a total of 2160+1200=3360 xp.
That is 420 xp when spilt by 8.
NPCs don't count as normal characters for xp purposes. You can basically handle it however you want, but if the NPC is a cohort I would recomend you give the NPC separate XP (not from the party award) equal to NPC lvl/ Average party level (APL). In this case it would be 1/2x420=210XP
If you feel the NPC provides a significant contribution to the party you can substract the PC award from the total party award before splitting it among the players.
In this case the players would each get 393xp
EDIT: the npc lvl/ APL X share is an extrapolation of cohort experience rules from the leadership feat.
I think I did XP incorrectly for the first few encounters in RotL. Is this correct?
6 goblins @ CR 1/2 = 135 * 6 = 810xp
4 goblins @ CR 1/3 = 135 * 4 = 540xp
1 warchanter @ CR 1 = 400 * 1 = 400xp
1 commando@ CR 1 = 400 * 1 = 400xp
1 goblin dog @ CR 1 = 400 * 1 = 400xp
4 goblins @ CR 1/3 = 135 * 4 = 540xp
Total XP = 810+940+1340 = 3090xp, divided among 'x' number of players for the exact split method. With 6 players, they each end up with 515xp that way. Somehow I got 705xp each.
One thing I did was to use the chart below Table 12-2 to treat 6 CR 1/3 creatures as a single CR 4 creature.