| FhqwhgadsX2 |
I'm having some trouble working out the intricacies of this spell. The lines in the spell pertaining to this situation are:
Area 10-ft.-radius emanation, centered on you
And
An antimagic field suppresses any spell or magical effect used within, brought into, or cast into the area, but does not dispel it.
And
Furthermore, while a magic sword does not function magically within the area, it is still a sword (and a masterwork sword at that).
Let's say we have a Huge (tall) sized creature (15' x 15') with 15' reach. This creature is wielding a +2 flaming greatsword. This creature also has Antimagic Field cast upon him (he cast it). He is fighting an opponent who has a +2 flaming longsword who is standing 10' away from the nearest square occupied by the huge creature.
1. So, imagine your battle grid and the large creature is totally confined within the field (middle square plus all of the edges), but his opponent, 10' away, is not. The large creature attacks his opponent with reach, does he get to add the benefits of his +2 flaming weapon because he is reaching outside the 10' radius emination of the antimagic field? Or does he only get the masterwork bonus?
2. The opponent will now take his turn to 5' step and attack the huge creature. In order to do so though, he must reach inside the anti-magic field to strike said creature, does the opponent lose his magic bonuses to his weapon? Therefore, he only receives the masterwork bonus from his weapon?
3. The huge creature now attacks again, but his opponent is outside the antimagic field's radius yet again. The creature strikes his opponent, but this time without having to reach. Does the huge creature retain his magic bonuses to the attack because he is still attacking a square that is outside the antimagic field?
4. Let's say the opponent had readied an attack for when the creature attacked him so that he could avoid the antimagic field and strike the huge creature's arm? Will the opponent get to use his bonuses at that point?
Case 4 seems to be the easiest to rule in favor of the opponent, but of the first three, I can see cases made for both sides and would like to ask another's opinion.
Thank you!
| Grick |
Let's say we have a Huge (tall) sized creature (15' x 15') with 15' reach. This creature is wielding a +2 flaming greatsword. This creature also has Antimagic Field cast upon him (he cast it). He is fighting an opponent who has a +2 flaming longsword who is standing 10' away from the nearest square occupied by the huge creature.
Area: "The point of origin of a spell is always a grid intersection."
Antimagic Field: "Should a creature be larger than the area enclosed by the barrier, any part of it that lies outside the barrier is unaffected by the field."
Here's an example grid. If Huge chose the top right corner of square C3, then the large creature doesn't threaten any of the squares Huge occupies which are unaffected. So in order to strike Huge, his weapon must pass through the area of the spell.
If someone threatened square B4, that square is not within the area, so attacking that part of Huge would mean the weapon is not suppressed.
I have no idea what the rules might be for moving the point of origin. That last line in the anti-magic field took me by surprise, and makes it not work the way I expected it to. Normally I would say that any creature who is occupying any square within the area is affected by it, and any creature outside the area is not, even if the creature is attacking someone who is affected by it, like a fireball.
| FhqwhgadsX2 |
1. So, imagine your battle grid and the large creature is totally confined within the field (middle square plus all of the edges), but his opponent, 10' away, is not. The large creature...
Thanks for the rule on the area part! I didn't know that before. There was a typo in my original post, I meant to say the HUGE creature instead of large (I had changed my theoretical creature and I realized it seemed confusing as to which I was talking about). The other creature I had in mind was just a 5' x 5' player or something, but it can apply to any size really. Is that grid link you used a tool in the forum somewhere? Or an external site?
| FhqwhgadsX2 |
One way of thinking about it is the location where the damage manifests. That is, when the medium creature is struck by the huge creature, if it is outside of the radius of effect of the antimagic field, the magic should function. On the flip-side, trying to make your attack into the antimagic field won't work because as soon as the blade enters the boundary, the magic ceases to function.
Using this thinking, the only way for the medium creature to attack the huge creature with magic bonuses is perhaps that readied action.