Pie’s Rejection of Gygaxian Consistency (was The Absolutely No Politics Or Religion Thread)


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Cake has no substance. It is frosted air with frills. And why should I have to wait until Cake 2.0 to have meat?

Liberty's Edge Contributor, RPG Superstar 2012

Oh! The straw(berry pie)man argument shows up here now! When new people visit these boards, they are all going to think we hate everyone who doesn't like pie. Do you want that?


Sure, you can create Cake 3.75 and limp along on an unsupported, failed and out-dated dessert in hopes of capturing the one or two cake fanbois that fear change.

Wouldn’t you rather dig your fork into a more evolved sweet?

Liberty's Edge Contributor, RPG Superstar 2012

If evolved, you mean a dessert that's enjoyed by the 14-18 year old demographic, then you can take your evolution and ship it off on the SS Beagle.


Not everyone wants to buy a confectioner’s oven just to enjoy a dessert.


Got milk? ‘cause you can’t eat cake without it.

Dark Archive Bella Sara Charter Superscriber

Cake is like raisins. Sure, raisins were probably a good sweet snack back when your choices were raisins or rye bread, but ever since the invention of chocolate, raisins have been obsolete.

The same holds true for cake with the invention of pie.

And, obviously, ice cream cake and ice cream pie are the next step. I predict that within a year, all cakes and pies will be made from ice cream, and only the most die hard grognards will accept non-ice cream pies and cakes.


And I can not believe Cake raped birthdays like that. It is just liked they wiped away years of tradition so they could ‘start their own thing.’

RPG Superstar 2012

Well, why don't you just take the next step and say that Hitler liked cakes, too?

Dark Archive

The cake is a lie


taig wrote:
Well, why don't you just take the next step and say that Hitler liked cakes, too?

I do not know. I am sure he would have approved of your fascist support of cake.


Sebastian wrote:
And, obviously, ice cream cake and ice cream pie are the next step.

This has nothing to do with your ice-cream simulationist view. Pie is just as capable of simulationism as cake. What’s more, Pie also supports Dramatist and Gamist eating. Only a rabid Cakemonger would fail to see that.

RPG Superstar 2012

CourtFool wrote:
Sebastian wrote:
And, obviously, ice cream cake and ice cream pie are the next step.
This has nothing to do with your ice-cream simulationist view. Pie is just as capable of simulationism as cake. What’s more, Pie also supports Dramatist and Gamist eating. Only a rabid Cakemonger would fail to see that.

Says the rabid dog. Time to take you behind the woodshed.

Cake has many more layers than pie or ice cream. That you fail to see that lays bare your ignorance.

Silver Crusade

I recommend that we all take a deep breath before this thread gets locked. Surely we can have a civil discussion about desserts without resorting to insults.

Dark Archive Bella Sara Charter Superscriber

CourtFool wrote:
taig wrote:
Well, why don't you just take the next step and say that Hitler liked cakes, too?
I do not know. I am sure he would have approved of your fascist support of cake.

I am in awe of this. Absolute awe. Well played. Doubleplusgood.

RPG Superstar 2012

You know, all this talk about dessert is making me hungry. Anyone for some Gummi Bears?


taig wrote:
Time to take you behind the woodshed.

Since you have resorted to threats, I have flagged your post.


taig wrote:
You know, all this talk about dessert is making me hungry. Anyone for some Gummi Bears?

Actually, I want some cake and ice cream. :)

Liberty's Edge Contributor, RPG Superstar 2012

CourtFool wrote:
taig wrote:
Time to take you behind the woodshed.
Since you have resorted to threats, I have flagged your post.

Cool! I've never had a post flagged. Do I get some cake?


Actually, I didn't. I think I have flagged one post ever. Just to try it.

I think flagging should be used very sparingly. Paizo has better things to do than come in and baby sit us. I really see no point in spamming them with flags every time someone says something the least bit offensive.

Furthermore, I view posting that you flagged something as pretentious. As if it gives your point more weight. "Look at me, I tattled."

Silver Crusade

Woah. This thread has taken an ugly turn. I am backing out of this one...

RPG Superstar 2012

CourtFool wrote:

Actually, I didn't. I think I have flagged one post ever. Just to try it.

I think flagging should be used very sparingly. Paizo has better things to do than come in and baby sit us. I really see no point in spamming them with flags every time someone says something the least bit offensive.

Furthermore, I view posting that you flagged something as pretentious. As if it gives your point more weight. "Look at me, I tattled."

I would have been surprised if you did flag my post. I would also never seriously threaten anyone on the boards. Nothing could ever make me so angry on a messageboard to threaten someone else with harm.


Sebastian wrote:
Cake is like raisins. Sure, raisins were probably a good sweet snack back when your choices were raisins or rye bread, but ever since the invention of chocolate, raisins have been obsolete.

Oh yeah, then explain chocolate covered raisins and why they have their own day.

Now the cake is nothing but frilly air argument completely overlooks pound cake, and things like banana bread. We all call it bread, but we know good and well that it is cake, and the only reason we call it bread is so that we can have it for breakfast.

Don't get me wrong, pie is good, but it's just not classy enough. When people start having pie instead of cake at their weddings, then you know pie has finally arrived.

Liberty's Edge

The true beauty of cake is that it serves as a delivery mechanism for frosting. With pie...where's the frosting? No frosting=no good.

Silver Crusade

Xuttah wrote:

The true beauty of cake is that it serves as a delivery mechanism for frosting. With pie...where's the frosting? No frosting=no good.

What if it's a cream pie? That's kinda like frosting.


Those who would choose frosting over flaky crust don't even deserve being acknowledged. The vapidity of this thread is boggling. If it were not for the benefit of others, I would not deign to post here. Intelligent followers of these boards know where to find real threads that are both conversant with Gygaxian insights and pie-relevant, unlike this one. OP, you made my brain want to throw up inside of my skull.

Liberty's Edge

The most intelligent pro-pie argument I could find on the interweb.

RPG Superstar 2012

Is it OK to like both?


One word: Crullers!


Mairkurion {tm} wrote:

Those who would choose frosting over flaky crust don't even deserve being acknowledged.

...

OP, you made my brain want to throw up inside of my skull.

Check your chloroplast, I am pro-pie.

Dark Archive

It's this simple.

You can say that you like meat in a pie, such as a chicken pot pie or Jamaican beef pie, and nobody raises an eyebrow.

Say that you like beefcake, on the other hand...

Pie. It's what's for dinner.

The Exchange

Pie or Icecream?
Pie and Icecream?
Pie if Icecream?
Pie not Icecream?

Sovereign Court

Then there's 4e pie...looks good at first sight but has no real substance and is ultimately not satisfying.


CourtFool wrote:
Mairkurion {tm} wrote:

Those who would choose frosting over flaky crust don't even deserve being acknowledged.

...

OP, you made my brain want to throw up inside of my skull.

Check your chloroplast, I am pro-pie.

But Anti-Gygax. Or just confused.

Liberty's Edge

CourtFool wrote:
Sebastian wrote:
And, obviously, ice cream cake and ice cream pie are the next step.
This has nothing to do with your ice-cream simulationist view. Pie is just as capable of simulationism as cake. What’s more, Pie also supports Dramatist and Gamist eating. Only a rabid Cakemonger would fail to see that.

Actually, pie most supports absurdist gaming.

Damned Marx Brothers and their pie flinging...


What about lemon meringue pie? It has a dramatist layer on top, gamist lemonny goodness inside and a crust of simulationism. Then there's cheese cake. Explain that cake folks. It's practically pie and not really cake at all.

I'm for pie, cake's mystique was denuded by the holiday tradition of fruit cake, which DOES NOT have gummi bears in it. (or sour gummi worms which are better.)

PIE

Liberty's Edge Contributor, RPG Superstar 2012

Amardolem wrote:

What about lemon meringue pie? It has a dramatist layer on top, gamist lemonny goodness inside and a crust of simulationism. Then there's cheese cake. Explain that cake folks. It's practically pie and not really cake at all.

I'm for pie, cake's mystique was denuded by the holiday tradition of fruit cake, which DOES NOT have gummi bears in it. (or sour gummi worms which are better.)

PIE

Fruit cake is a lie. It was created by pie lobbyists to intentionally sully the good name of cake.

Dark Archive

Pie is clearly superior to cake, because it is filled with warm delicious gooey goodness that is lickably delicious. Cake is just dry and nasty. I would rather have a warm, moist pie any day.

Dark Archive

David Fryer wrote:
Cake is just dry and nasty. I would rather have a warm, moist pie any day.

Are we still talking about food? 'Cause my mind went to a dirty place just then.

Pardon me. I'm going back there now.

Dark Archive

Set wrote:
David Fryer wrote:
Cake is just dry and nasty. I would rather have a warm, moist pie any day.

Are we still talking about food? 'Cause my mind went to a dirty place just then.

Pardon me. I'm going back there now.

Of course we're still talking about food. ;0

Spoiler:
Of course that doesn't mean I didn't mean for your mind to go to the naughty place either

The Exchange

Wellard wrote:
Then there's 4e pie...looks good at first sight but has no real substance and is ultimately not satisfying.

Thats just the Artificial sweetner...which apparently causes cancer through long term exposure.

The Exchange

taig wrote:
Amardolem wrote:

What about lemon meringue pie? It has a dramatist layer on top, gamist lemonny goodness inside and a crust of simulationism. Then there's cheese cake. Explain that cake folks. It's practically pie and not really cake at all.

I'm for pie, cake's mystique was denuded by the holiday tradition of fruit cake, which DOES NOT have gummi bears in it. (or sour gummi worms which are better.)

PIE

Fruit cake is a lie. It was created by pie lobbyists to intentionally sully the good name of cake.

Actually its a Boiled Fruit Pudding...different thing entirely...completely unrelated to cake...except you can pour custard on both.

Dark Archive

Boston cream pie is really cake who is a compulsive liar.


My fellow Paizonians I must declare that I am indeed a M.O.D. (Middle of (the) Dessert) person. I truely love pie. All the goodness in a small compact form with a flakey crust. Come on Pumpkin pie what other symbol represents Thanksgiving any better. And don't forget P.I.E. (People Ingesting Excellence) spokesperson Olivia Munn P.I.E. Spokesperson

But, also cake has it's moments. Who doen't love the moist, tender, and sweet carress of Jell-O Cake. And don't forget that brownies are basicly a cake also. Oh those were the good ole days when your friends came over and provided some "nutmeg and oregeno" to make the perfect brownie for everyone. They said the ingrediant was from a "special" family recipie.

But these two desserts while great in their own light, do not hold a candle to the ultimate dessert out there. COOKIES!!!! And one little disheartining note is as long as I have been here I have not been offered cookies at all. And I have heard Lillith's cookies were the best. But I digress, who can say no to homebaked cookies, like chocolate chip, or chocolate oatmeal no-bake cookies, or any like Grandma used to make. With this statement, I must formally declare that this argument is moot with such a clear winner in the wings and that winner is the Cookie!!!


taig wrote:
Is it OK to like both?

Only if you admit the superiority of the cookie to either.

Hoooray for third-side "spoilers!!!"

Liberty's Edge Contributor, RPG Superstar 2012

What about brownies? (no, not the fey)

Actually, as long as my desert doesn't have raisins in it, I will enjoy it. I like raisins, but something goes horribly awry when you put them in baked goods.

Liberty's Edge

At which point, they become baked bads.


Xuttah wrote:
At which point, they become baked bads.

Kind of like the way some people's hairdos become hair don'ts...

Pie is good, but pretentious. Cake and ice cream together is an institution. No one argues it. But pie has to go and get all fancy. It's not "pie and ice cream," no, it's "pie ala mode." What's the matter, pie? Compensating for the fact that cake goes better with ice cream than pie by pulling out the French phrases? Yeah, I thought so.

The Exchange

This thread is full of epic pie.

Sovereign Court

But surely no loyal American would ever talk lovingly about 'Mom's Apple Cake'

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