Draconians in Golarion?


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Hey its one of my "insert dnd element" in golarion threads again :)

So today I was lucky to buy some draconian miniatures from the plastic mini line of mageknight

http://www.wizkidsgames.com/mageknight/figuregallery.asp?unitid=1332
http://www.wizkidsgames.com/mageknight/figuregallery.asp?unitid=1329
http://www.wizkidsgames.com/mageknight/figuregallery.asp?unitid=1331

I would like to know - if anybody does know it - if golarion has something like a draconian race (or a similar reptiloid race which should be more evolved than lizardmen or troglodytes) included? In the CG I didnt find anything, but maybe I overread it. And if yes, where could these race be loctated geographically? thanx for your answers.


Nope. No official dragonlike race. You can put them in basically everywhere, though they'd be a minor race (unless you want to change the setting more than just a bit).


KaeYoss wrote:
Nope. No official dragonlike race. You can put them in basically everywhere, though they'd be a minor race (unless you want to change the setting more than just a bit).

thanks. I dont want to break canon that much, just a little bit for introducing my new beautiful draconian minis in this or that homebrew module. Maybe they are servitors of some of the dragons or so.


Well, anywhere that there are dragons there can be half-dragons, and the draconic template from the Draconomicon is essentially the same as Aasimars and Tieflings, so there's really no need to add a race, just strange breeding practices. :P

That said, I am familiar with the Mageknight line, and the Draconians in particular are better suited for Large creatures, and for example the two-headed one would make a fine Half-dragon Ettin. And since its Large, it would have wings per the template anyways, so its all legit!

Silver Crusade

Possible point of origin?

Spoiler:
Much like Mengkare's Great Experiment in Hermia, other dragons have tried to shape the humanoid races in the past, either in outwardly altruistic attempts at making them "better" or to remake them in their own image.

Far from widespread, these magically and genetically engineered subraces have nonetheless managed to survive through the centuries/millenia. Some have turned savage, some keeping their small, peaceful societies intact, and some still clinging to the rigid rules their progenitors were raised under, awaiting the time when they are called upon to fulfill whatever purpose they believe they were created for.


Mikaze wrote:

Possible point of origin?

** spoiler omitted **

Varthanna and Mikaze. Wonderful both ideas. I will take them for my game if you allow . :)


Enpeze wrote:
I would like to know - if anybody does know it - if golarion has something like a draconian race (or a similar reptiloid race which should be more evolved than lizardmen or troglodytes) included? In the CG I didnt find anything, but maybe I overread it. And if yes, where could these race be loctated geographically? thanx for your answers.

I don't think there's anything in the actual campaign setting. My group migrated from 4th edition's implied setting to Golarion so I had to find a way to make a dragonman fit. I eventually decided that they were the product of dragons using magic to create servitors.

They're very rare as making such servitors is now a bit of a taboo among dragons. The last time they made servitors in any numbers, they ended up breeding and exploding in population and spiraling out of their makers controls. No one wants another kobold epidemic.


I'm running a Golarion PbP game on RPOL that's in 4th edition. I advanced the timeline and did some heavy modifications to the world to better fit the "Light in the Darkness" aspect of 4th edition. Many elements remain the same but some have been heavily altered.

One aspect was having the Dragonborn as refugees from one of the other planets in Golarions solar system. A fraction of their population fled their planet and the war with, can't remember the name of the top of my head... the evil dragon son of Apsu and Tiamat if I recall, so they have a couple colonies on the world but aren't entirely numerous. Though I think that might not be as subtle an introduction as you might be looking for.

Sovereign Court

There are some intelligent lizardmen on Galorian.

Spoiler:

Eando Kline finds them hidden deep underground, hibernating until the time is right to conquer all the nations of men.


GeraintElberion wrote:

There are some intelligent lizardmen on Galorian.

** spoiler omitted **

Those aren't lizardmen, but serpentmen.


GeraintElberion wrote:

There are some intelligent lizardmen on Galorian.

** spoiler omitted **

I think these nasty critters are more along the line of yuan-ti than draconians, but placing such a type of race underground is an idea too. Who know who really is down under?


DM Doom wrote:
A fraction of their population fled their planet and the war with, can't remember the name of the top of my head... the evil dragon son of Apsu and Tiamat if I recall, so they have a couple colonies on the world but aren't entirely numerous. Though I think that might not be as subtle an introduction as you might be looking for.

No, en contraire, its a good idea. Refugee colonies from other planets where dragonmen are dwelling. I like it.


Enpeze wrote:
DM Doom wrote:
A fraction of their population fled their planet and the war with, can't remember the name of the top of my head... the evil dragon son of Apsu and Tiamat if I recall, so they have a couple colonies on the world but aren't entirely numerous. Though I think that might not be as subtle an introduction as you might be looking for.
No, en contraire, its a good idea. Refugee colonies from other planets where dragonmen are dwelling. I like it.

Well, if you like it you like it. Feel free to use it, it's not like my concept for them is original after all :P Now if only I could remember that evil dragon that all the chromatics want dead for betraying them.... Where's my Dragon's of Golarion!


DM Doom wrote:
Enpeze wrote:
DM Doom wrote:
A fraction of their population fled their planet and the war with, can't remember the name of the top of my head... the evil dragon son of Apsu and Tiamat if I recall, so they have a couple colonies on the world but aren't entirely numerous. Though I think that might not be as subtle an introduction as you might be looking for.
No, en contraire, its a good idea. Refugee colonies from other planets where dragonmen are dwelling. I like it.
Well, if you like it you like it. Feel free to use it, it's not like my concept for them is original after all :P Now if only I could remember that evil dragon that all the chromatics want dead for betraying them.... Where's my Dragon's of Golarion!

Maybe you mean Dahak the counterpart of apsu.


Enpeze wrote:
GeraintElberion wrote:

There are some intelligent lizardmen on Galorian.

** spoiler omitted **

I think these nasty critters are more along the line of yuan-ti than draconians, but placing such a type of race underground is an idea too. Who know who really is down under?

I don't know, mate.


Yes, Dahak, the dragon-god that even the Chromatics want dead, he'd make a damn good reason for the Dragonborn to come to Golarion.

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