Reason number five why I am a vegetarian...


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One word: Gumbo


The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:

One beef I have with some vegetarians (all puns intended) is when they go all "vegan straight-edge hardliner." Like this america-bashing, art-stealing f@%&head from DeviantArt.

Do you have the same dislike for all forms of straight edge hardliner?

That personality type, in general, can get a bit grating, or worse yet hurtful at times.

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The Jade wrote:
What was that fantasy movie where a witch cracks open an egg and there's blood inside... an ill omen? Sword and the Sorceror?

Robin hood, prince of thieves. Kevin Costner, said witch gets speared, very fun.

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I have pointed teeth. Pointed teeth are used to rend flesh. Therefore I eat meat. Just how I was made to be. Eat what you want but there is this thing called the food chain and we are part of it. And yes I hope the maggots do enjoy me after I am dead. I would prefer being eaten by say wolves but I don't think they'll honor that request.

Liberty's Edge

The Jade wrote:
The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:

One beef I have with some vegetarians (all puns intended) is when they go all "vegan straight-edge hardliner." Like this america-bashing, art-stealing f@%&head from DeviantArt.

Do you have the same dislike for all forms of straight edge hardliner?

That personality type, in general, can get a bit grating, or worse yet hurtful at times.

I met Ian Mackaye last year. Asked him about it (and, trust me, dude's intense - his wife even moreso), and even he thinks people kinda missed the point of "Straight Edge".


Nevynxxx wrote:
The Jade wrote:
What was that fantasy movie where a witch cracks open an egg and there's blood inside... an ill omen? Sword and the Sorceror?
Robin hood, prince of thieves. Kevin Costner, said witch gets speared, very fun.

Thanks, Nevynxxx. That's two for RHPOT, and that confirms it.


houstonderek wrote:
I met Ian Mackaye last year. Asked him about it (and, trust me, dude's intense - his wife even moreso), and even he thinks people kinda missed the point of "Straight Edge".

What did he say?


Tremble wrote:
I have pointed teeth. Pointed teeth are used to rend flesh. Therefore I eat meat. Just how I was made to be. Eat what you want but there is this thing called the food chain and we are part of it. And yes I hope the maggots do enjoy me after I am dead. I would prefer being eaten by say wolves but I don't think they'll honor that request.

I have flat teeth. They're ideal for mashing veggies into swallowable pulp. I'm human. So, short of walking around a national park with balogna stapled to my naked flesh, I exist outside of the natural food chain. But don't sell yourself short, Tremble. I'm sure the wolves would find your corpse superbly esculent. ;)

Now let me get back to studying brain-shrunken vegan baby statistics, would ya? Turns out that vegan babies tend to *actually eat the toys you give them. I did not know that. This is great news for my wallet. Now I can give my money to Toys for Tots and I no longer have to shell out for Save the Children.

* By actually I mean I made this up.

Liberty's Edge

He said it was supposed to express a personal discipline, that being "punk" and "an addicted ass" don't have to go hand and hand. He didn't mean it to be an anthem for a "straight edge holier than thou" movement, nor as an excuse to feel superior to others.

Liberty's Edge

The Jade wrote:
Tremble wrote:
I have pointed teeth. Pointed teeth are used to rend flesh. Therefore I eat meat. Just how I was made to be. Eat what you want but there is this thing called the food chain and we are part of it. And yes I hope the maggots do enjoy me after I am dead. I would prefer being eaten by say wolves but I don't think they'll honor that request.

I have flat teeth. They're ideal for mashing veggies into swallowable pulp. I'm human. So, short of walking around a national park with balogna stapled to my naked flesh, I exist outside of the natural food chain. But don't sell yourself short, Tremble. I'm sure the wolves would find your corpse superbly esculent. ;)

Yep. Canines and incisors for the flesh, molar for the veggies. Adult vegans do well with some supplements, but growing kids, especially active teens need more protein and more calories than the average adult (like 3k calories and 50g-60g of protein a day for a teen involved in athletics), and, frankly, a strict vegan diet isn't really up to the challenge. You have to eat a LOT of beans and rice (which make a complete protein) to get to 60g of protein.

Adults have the right to live however they wish, but I hope that vegan parents understand that biology should inform a proper diet for their offspring rather than their moral beliefs.


houstonderek wrote:
He said it was supposed to express a personal discipline, that being "punk" and "an addicted ass" don't have to go hand and hand. He didn't mean it to be an anthem for a "straight edge holier than thou" movement, nor as an excuse to feel superior to others.

I think it attracts that sort of personality though, even though it wasn't the intent.

People who maintain strong disciplines tend to be a lil judgey. They hold others to their own standard. Many people who studied harder in school often have trouble respecting those who didn't. Many health nuts often scoff at people who don't go the gym. Many martial artists often look at untrained fighters inciting a fight as chattering veal ready for a tenderizing.

That all said, I have some strong disciplines, but they don't make me feel better than the rest of you. It's the size of my bloated glandaconda that makes me feel better than the rest of you, and I scored that free with the birth.

Scarab Sages

The Jade wrote:
It's the size of my bloated glandaconda that makes me feel better than the rest of you, and I scored that free with the birth.

You should get that looked at; elephantiasis can be fatal.

Ask John Merrick.


Snorter wrote:
The Jade wrote:
It's the size of my bloated glandaconda that makes me feel better than the rest of you, and I scored that free with the birth.
You should get that looked at; elephantiasis can be fatal.

Fatal for whom?

Liberty's Edge

Bryan wrote:
The Hangman's Tree wrote:
I ate a vegetarian once...tasted like chicken...weird...
You're a vegetariantarian!

Great strip, man. One of my all-time favorites.

Liberty's Edge

The Jade wrote:
The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:

One beef I have with some vegetarians (all puns intended) is when they go all "vegan straight-edge hardliner." Like this america-bashing, art-stealing f@%&head from DeviantArt.

Do you have the same dislike for all forms of straight edge hardliner?

That personality type, in general, can get a bit grating, or worse yet hurtful at times.

Big time. They're one of the few groups I go out of my way to dislike.

The worst part is when they assume you're one of "them."

Liberty's Edge

houstonderek wrote:
The Jade wrote:
The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:

One beef I have with some vegetarians (all puns intended) is when they go all "vegan straight-edge hardliner." Like this america-bashing, art-stealing f@%&head from DeviantArt.

Do you have the same dislike for all forms of straight edge hardliner?

That personality type, in general, can get a bit grating, or worse yet hurtful at times.

I met Ian Mackaye last year. Asked him about it (and, trust me, dude's intense - his wife even moreso), and even he thinks people kinda missed the point of "Straight Edge".

Definitely. You're one lucky guy, getting to meet Ian. He's one of the people on my very short list of "people I hope to meet before I die."

Liberty's Edge

The Jade wrote:
Snorter wrote:
The Jade wrote:
It's the size of my bloated glandaconda that makes me feel better than the rest of you, and I scored that free with the birth.
You should get that looked at; elephantiasis can be fatal.
Fatal for whom?

I believe he was referring to Joseph Merrick.

Scarab Sages

The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:
I believe he was referring to Joseph Merrick.

Would you believe that was the name I originally typed, till a voice over my shoulder told me to change it?

T'choh.

I believe Jade was implying he would split his partners asunder.

Scarab Sages

The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:

One beef I have with some vegetarians (all puns intended) is when they go all "vegan straight-edge hardliner." Like this america-bashing, art-stealing f@%&head from DeviantArt.

You seemed so polite to each other. He linked to your piece, or was that after you showed up?

Did I miss some 'dA-rama'?


Sure, The Jade claims to be a vegan, but just check out his profile page: The Jade

Liberty's Edge

Hill Giant wrote:
Sure, The Jade claims to be a vegan, but just check out his profile page: The Jade

Hehehehheheehheeeeeee!!!!

Spoiler:
ahahahahahahaha!!!

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That business from the movie with the egg being filled with blood just makes me think the witch has discovered an arcane phenomenon with marketing possibilities. If you can get the ill omens set up so that the eggs reliably fill up with blood, you can market them to vampires and probably get a lot more money for them than you would just selling eggs at the market.

Though of course you'd have trouble with the stigma behind egg-sucking, especially for vampires.

But if you did it with a roc egg....

Hmm, I'm now thinking of Humpty Dumpty as a vampire lord.

Scarab Sages

houstonderek wrote:
Hill Giant wrote:
Sure, The Jade claims to be a vegan, but just check out his profile page: The Jade

Hehehehheheehheeeeeee!!!!

** spoiler omitted **

Mmmmmm.......bacon.


Snorter wrote:
I believe Jade was implying he would split his partners asunder.

Eggsactly.

I keep a staplegun and a roll of duct tape hanging from a nail in my headboard for that very occasion.

(DA-rama... did you just coin that term?)


Hill Giant wrote:
Sure, The Jade claims to be a vegan, but just check out his profile page: The Jade

Why that's... that's um... veggie bacon! It's all soy. Really!


Kevin Andrew Murphy wrote:

That business from the movie with the egg being filled with blood just makes me think the witch has discovered an arcane phenomenon with marketing possibilities. If you can get the ill omens set up so that the eggs reliably fill up with blood, you can market them to vampires and probably get a lot more money for them than you would just selling eggs at the market.

Though of course you'd have trouble with the stigma behind egg-sucking, especially for vampires.

But if you did it with a roc egg....

Hmm, I'm now thinking of Humpty Dumpty as a vampire lord.

Now that's some marketing logic.

"Eggsucker!" and Humpty Tepesch... precious!

Sovereign Court

Crimson Jester wrote:
The Jade wrote:
Crimson Jester wrote:

Vegetarian = old Cherokee word for "bad hunter"

In all seriousness though Jade I commend you for your eloquent expression of your beliefs. If a bit rambling. But what ever, you like short sentences. So do I. If a non believer and a believer can get along. Why can't we all. Short and simple.

Me? Rambling? Where are you GETTING THIS FROM?

;)

Occasionally from Atomic Array.

Hehe.

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So Jade let us, non-vegan, types know just what is your normal diet like. what do you in reality eat?

Sovereign Court

Crimson Jester wrote:
So Jade let us, non-vegan, types know just what is your normal diet like. what do you in reality eat?

Vegepygmies!

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Callous Jack wrote:
Crimson Jester wrote:
So Jade let us, non-vegan, types know just what is your normal diet like. what do you in reality eat?
Vegepygmies!

With a nice cianti?

I thought that was just Drow. Does this mean that the wolf eats? Wait a minute a Vegan Wolf man that is some weird magick.

Sovereign Court

The Jade wrote:
I'm human. So, short of walking around a national park with balogna stapled to my naked flesh, I exist outside of the natural food chain.

Okay Jade this isn't a bash on you or vegetarians, I just hate that expression/argument that humans exist outside the food chain. We still exist within a lot of food chains, just typically at the top.

For example a short list of creatures that still feed on humans. Mosquitos, ticks, leeches, fleas, etc. for the most part small parasites, just saying, we are still part of several food chains, and even the basic predetory food chain we're still on it, just at the top.


Turin the Mad wrote:


Here is an interesting article on that particular taste.

Veal ftw!

Very interesting read. Thanks for the link.

Scarab Sages

The Jade wrote:
(DA-rama... did you just coin that term?)

Unfortunately not.

I saw it in one of the moderators' journal entries.


Ganoog is ganoog.

Most of the people I know eat meat, and the vast majority do not feel the need to keep telling me what they don't like about vegetarians and vegetarian thinking and how people were designed to eat sheep butt because of sharp teeth and not just lentils because then you get a drooly walking-in-circles baby with a brain the size of a raisin. Why would anyone in good conscience do that? You'd have to be a bit asleep at the wheel to do something so thoughtlessly antisocial, wouldn't you? This is just getting rude.

I put up a post that contained the word vegetarian, and those of you who once had to deal with people who felt the need to get in your face and spout off inane caveats about your lifestyle like infantile reactionaries are acting much the same, aren't you?

I mean, please stop to really think about it. Analyze.

Aren't you?

If you believe what you believe, you shouldn't need me to believe it as well, should you? So consider quelling your compulsions to proselytize on my originally-intended-to-be-silly thread and move on. I am begging you, because you are taking the fun out of posting here, and I usually quite like posting here. Any statements in this thread I made that weren't outright jokes were likely me attempting to politely assert independence from provocative, baiting conversation.

Back to silliness and absurdity please. Thank you.

Liberty's Edge

There's like militant apostle vegetarians, and then there's Jade.
There's militant apostle freaking everything; don't peg Jade wrong, man.

Jade won't spraypaint your leather bomber unless you ask him to.

Just be all like....."cool; more bacon for me!"
or something.
It's all good.

Liberty's Edge

Plus he could verbally pwn Dick Cavett AND Dennis Miller in a steel cage death match, tag team OR two-on-one.


Heathansson wrote:

There's like militant apostle vegetarians, and then there's Jade.

There's militant apostle freaking everything; don't peg Jade wrong, man.

Jade won't spraypaint your leather bomber unless you ask him to.

Just be all like....."cool; more bacon for me!"
or something.
It's all good.

Thanks, man. As always, I sincerely appreciate it.

I'm sorry for getting serious all of a sudden. It's just starting to feel a bit unfair in here, and I do try my best to be fair, so I expect it aimed back at me.

Liberty's Edge

I hope it wasn't anything I said.

What's "ganoog"? Sorry for my ignorance, but all I get when I google that are links to a Thai and Persian persons' profiles on some east/south Asian web forums.


houstonderek wrote:

I hope it wasn't anything I said.

What's "ganoog"? Sorry for my ignorance, but all I get when I google that are links to a Thai and Persian persons' profiles on some east/south Asian web forums.

Your name did not spring to mind, Derek. ;)

Ganoog is ganoog is Yiddish for enough is enough. Don't ask me what Yiddish is. I've never heard of it.

Liberty's Edge

The Jade wrote:
houstonderek wrote:

I hope it wasn't anything I said.

What's "ganoog"? Sorry for my ignorance, but all I get when I google that are links to a Thai and Persian persons' profiles on some east/south Asian web forums.

Your name did not spring to mind, Derek. ;)

Ganoog is ganoog is Yiddish for enough is enough. Don't ask me what Yiddish is. I've never heard of it.

Wow, I can't believe I didn't know that, I grew up in New York and occasionally drop some Yiddish into my conversations (mostly along the lines of "stop kibitzing" and "man, he's got some chutzpah")...


Heathansson wrote:

Plus he could verbally pwn Dick Cavett AND Dennis Miller in a steel cage death match, tag team OR two-on-one.

I met Dick Cavett outside of Rocky Horror Picture Show on broadway (a musical he was the narrator for) and when I corrected one of his facts he became fascinated with me and started to interview me for five minutes... no cameras or recorders... he just did what came naturally.

As he left he asked me and the women I was with if we wanted to go out for jell-o shots and waved cheerily. Someone snapped a pic of the two of us in embrace, but the flash whited us out like apparitions.

>:\


houstonderek wrote:
The Jade wrote:
houstonderek wrote:

I hope it wasn't anything I said.

What's "ganoog"? Sorry for my ignorance, but all I get when I google that are links to a Thai and Persian persons' profiles on some east/south Asian web forums.

Your name did not spring to mind, Derek. ;)

Ganoog is ganoog is Yiddish for enough is enough. Don't ask me what Yiddish is. I've never heard of it.

Wow, I can't believe I didn't know that, I grew up in New York and occasionally drop some Yiddish into my conversations (mostly along the lines of "stop kibitzing" and "man, he's got some chutzpah")...

That's pretty good actually. The Yiddish-fu is strong in this one.

Liberty's Edge

The Jade wrote:
Heathansson wrote:

Plus he could verbally pwn Dick Cavett AND Dennis Miller in a steel cage death match, tag team OR two-on-one.

I met Dick Cavett outside of Rocky Horror Picture Show on broadway (a musical he was the narrator for) and when I corrected one of his facts he became fascinated with me and started to interview me for five minutes... no cameras or recorders... he just did what came naturally.

As he left he asked me and the women I was with if we wanted to go out for jell-o shots and waved cheerily. Someone snapped a pic of the two of us in embrace, but the flash whited us out like apparitions.

>:\

My neighbor was on Maury Povich.


Heathansson wrote:


My neighbor was on Maury Povich.

I had two girlfriends who went on the Richard Bay show (one for keeping her viriginity... I'm so ashamed) and one on Oprah. I've been on... well nothing but bad local cable shows.


Yeah. Seriously, people. I think only people who apply for some special license should get to whack somebody as cool as Jade upside the head with a big pork loin or shoulder.

Spoiler:
Starts queue.

The dynamic is fascinating. I wonder what else is comparable to it.

Liberty's Edge

The Jade wrote:
Heathansson wrote:


My neighbor was on Maury Povich.
I had two girlfriends who went on the Richard Bay show (one for keeping her viriginity... I'm so ashamed) and one on Oprah. I've been on... well nothing but bad local cable shows.

I don't really meet any famous f$!%ers.


Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Yeah. Seriously, people. I think only people who apply for some special license should get to whack somebody as cool as Jade upside the head with a big pork loin or shoulder. ** spoiler omitted **

LOL. Why sir, you may beat me about the face and neck with a frozen rump roast whenever you wish!

I don't mean to take myself too seriously... it just start to accumulate and sting is all. I'm done. Over. Sorry.

Liberty's Edge

Wot obawt poin ted sticks?!?


Yeah, there's something weird about. You post, and I have no real desire to debate it as an issue or to change your behavior...or mine. I just immediately want to talk about bacon.

For the run-of-the-mill person, maybe they start thinking about radical animal rights or something, as if that has anything to do with your average vegetarian. As if we should make you responsible for this.

Or may it's just Lent and people are getting tired of being temporary vegetarians....

Liberty's Edge

Famous and semi-famous people I've hung out with:

Ian Mackaye
Billy Gibbons
Richard Chavez
Meatloaf
Mark Curry
Dennis Rodman
Fishbone
Pete Seeger
Alanis Morrisette
Al Michaels (this is the nicest dude you'll ever meet)

I've met:

Too many to list. (I worked at the Four Seasons in Las Colinas (Dallas) and The Mansion at Turtle Creek (Dallas also), and have waited tables in hip/swanky joins most of my life. And the thing I went to prison for.)

Celebrities who've offered me boxer shorts in lieu of a tip:

Billy Corrigan

Celebrities who have thrown luggage at my head:

Gary Busey

And, the coolest moment of my life:

Enjoying some "tea" with Keith Richards :)

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