Stereofm
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I was wondering, the Rise of the Runelords -Player's book mentions a rumor about the Sandpoint Devil. Being a fan of the Jersey Devil folktale I was wondering if there are actual printed stats of the beasty?
I am intrigued as well by the Sandpoint Devil, but I have never read anything on the Jersey devil. Any references ?
Mark Moreland
Director of Brand Strategy
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Two questions then...
they're? in the bestiary (as in more than one?)
also, do you know what special abilities it has/they have?
I was going to use stats for a wyrmling red dragon (make it an outsider) and give it some kind of gaze attack instead of the fire breath.
"They're" meaning the stats (plural).
It's very different than a dragon. It's got a curse breath weapon, a terrifying scream and others. At CR 8, it's closer to a young red dragon than a wyrmling. I'd suggest picking up the pdf of Pathfinder #1 to get it's real stats, as it's a pretty unique creature. You can read a bit more about it [url=http://pathfinder.wikia.com/wiki/Sandpoint_devil here] but that's just the flavor. All that said, it's your game, so handle it however you see fit.
| Cormac |
also, do you know what special abilities it has/they have?
This might help: "Local Devil"
| Panguinslayer7 |
I want to pick up the adventure paths later on. But I just don't have it in my budget right now.
I took a look at the stats but I'm thinking I might still go with something more CR 3-4. Doing a slow level progression and my PC's just started out.
I'm heavily playing in the Sandpoint region for a firm sense of "home" as well as time to introduce/gain love fore; various NPC's. Thanks for the info everybody.
Mark Moreland
Director of Brand Strategy
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Panguinslayer7 wrote:This might help: "Local Devil"
also, do you know what special abilities it has/they have?
Seems that, with the use of the CUP and the OGL, this could be renamed to use the official name with Golarion-specific references, but maybe I'm wrong.
Mark Gedak 27
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Seems that, with the use of the CUP and the OGL, this could be renamed to use the official name with Golarion-specific references, but maybe I'm wrong.
Possibly, but I don't want to mix OGC with non-OGC elements. It may confuse people trying to use the material in a commercial product.
| KaeYoss |
I took a look at the stats but I'm thinking I might still go with something more CR 3-4. Doing a slow level progression and my PC's just started out.
The Sandpoint devil is not something the players are supposed to hunt down and kill as a filler adventure. Those stats are in a book with an adventure for characters of levels 1-4. It's not supposed to be easily defeatable.
Thanks for using the Grand OGL Wiki.
That article still contains the word Sandpoint several times...
| Scott Betts |
The Sandpoint devil is not something the players are supposed to hunt down and kill as a filler adventure. Those stats are in a book with an adventure for characters of levels 1-4. It's not supposed to be easily defeatable.
I don't think there's any issue with the party deciding to hunt down this legend and end its menace to the region once they've finished with The Skinsaw Murders. That puts them at about the right level to try it on for size.
| KaeYoss |
KaeYoss wrote:The Sandpoint devil is not something the players are supposed to hunt down and kill as a filler adventure. Those stats are in a book with an adventure for characters of levels 1-4. It's not supposed to be easily defeatable.I don't think there's any issue with the party deciding to hunt down this legend and end its menace to the region once they've finished with The Skinsaw Murders. That puts them at about the right level to try it on for size.
But that thing's a smart devil. It probably has a preternatural sense to gauge your power and won't appear if it is in any danger!
| Eric Hinkle |
Jersey Devil
There's also a book covering Jersey from Mid-Atlantic Press (I think) titled, well, The Jersey Devil. I always thought he would make a good model for a scary-yet-harmless monster.
| Panguinslayer7 |
I hadn't intended to use it as a filler adventure. Nor do I want it to be easy to defeat. I actually intend to build along the various rumours about the creature. I thought, that I might have it appear at night vaguely seen or leave tracks on roofs and eat some livestock.
And then maybe have a bugbear killing people in a farm in the area. Or possibly a scarecrow... with the appearance that it could be the devil.
Then send them out to the old Leeds home to investigate the creatures origin. (Actually probably use the scarecrow there.) Anyway, figure out a few other details after that and pretty soon I think I'll have a pretty good hunt worked out.
Have the PC's discover the bugbear and deal with it. But maybe at the point the devil wants them.
Maybe even have someone inform the PC's they must dump the creatures bones into it's lair to insure it remains dead. Which in fact allows it to come back a few generations or so later.
Anyway like I said they are a low level party, and I'm pacing the leveling slow. (Might even do E6) But even lower level characters want to take on something worthy of renown.
| KaeYoss |
The Bugbear Distraction sounds like a good idea. Them buggers actually live on fear, and one of them making it look like it's the Sandpoint Devil is quite clever.
Provide them with a harrowing adventure full of night-terror and mystery, when they find out it's actually not a mystical creature that killed those people and cattle.
And then, when they defeat the bugbear, have the *real* Sandpoint Devil show up (but not to kill them, obviously).
| Panguinslayer7 |
Just had 2nd session the other night. The guy running Sandpoint's musuem sent them out to the Devil's Platter to bring him a couple giant gecko specimens.
One of the PC's spotted the Devil's silhouette. The other player decided to see if he could hunt it down. (The musuem owner jokingly said he'd pay royaly for the beast.)
So only two of the PC's finally ended up at the Pit (the other one wanted to get back to work at the Hagfish.)
They went into the creatures lair and one of them got dragged off into the sudden storm by it. Flown through the sky being dropped/grabbed/thrown/grabbed again, etc...
The PC who did not ended of finding the other guy huanging upside in a tree outside of town with the symbol of Asmodeus carved into his chest but alive. The player working at the Hagfish... doesn't even believe them that the creature exists.
I figure a week will pass and the bugbear will begin it's bloody work. Right now I'm trying to figure out who exactly is going to instruct it in mimicing the Chopper. (I figure that'll get the whole town scared.)
| Panguinslayer7 |
Ok, been putting some thought into it...
SO the PC that was marked by the "Devil" (done as a scare tactic and a "this is what happens when you come looking")did not escape the attention of the 'villains' spies who worship underhis/her guidance Asmodeus and like wise the Sandpoint Devil.
That same 'villain' discovered a bugbear in the region and has used various tricks to be the bugbears "inner voice".
It's getting toward late spring in the campaign and after giving the PC's a few around town interactions the evenings and even the mornings are going to be extremely foggy. (Odd but not outrageous weather.)
A pair of drunken townsfolk with see the "Devil" fly off a rooftop before discovering "the Choppers" first victim.
The marked PC will have a gift from the body snuck into his home and left lying next to him in bed by the bugbear.
Meanwhile as the murders start happening every night after the fog rolls in the 'villain' will use some minor magic item to charm birds into landing on the roofs of the victim's homes maybe even the morning of their murder.
After a few less beloved townsfolk are murdered "the Chopper" will begin targeting the NPC's the players have grown attached to.
Also, I'm thinking of making the bugbear (stats from classic monsters revisted) a sort of psuedo-koblak, with just the dmg. reduction/gravedirt and adding 1 to the CR.
Now I just need to come up with the bugbears "look", I want him to have a certain Jason/Leatherface persona when finally seen (during a storm, so only for a moment in a stroke of lightning) for the first time.
Adam Daigle
Director of Narrative
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Being a fan of the Jersey Devil folktale I was wondering if there are actual printed stats of the beasty?
You mentioned that you were a fan of the Jersey Devil legend, so I thought I'd point this one out to you.
| Panguinslayer7 |
Panguinslayer7 wrote:Being a fan of the Jersey Devil folktale I was wondering if there are actual printed stats of the beasty?You mentioned that you were a fan of the Jersey Devil legend, so I thought I'd point this one out to you.
Thanks