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Nah, Nevada will become the center of a new hedonistic state that would make the Roman Empire blush with shame. The nation of Nevadafornia will be the place where every vice is available, if the price is right.Knocks up new capital of Nevada (a city for 1 billion islamic citizens) - occupies the entire surface of Nevada.
Kicks dirt on David Fryer's Nevadiafornia Signpost. I dont think so you heretic.
How do you impregnate an entire city?
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We Slavs (ok, I'm part Slav and part Wallachian) have an honored traditions of a) being drunk on the job; b) making stupid pronouncements just to see what other people will do, and d) having very idiotic analysts who nobody in his or hers right mind listens to. As for the USA and Russia, it seems to me that USA are becoming a socialistic state, and Russia is returning to it's imperial roots. And why would they want Alaska, when they already have at least half of Chicago?
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We Slavs (ok, I'm part Slav and part Wallachian) have an honored traditions of a) being drunk on the job; b) making stupid pronouncements just to see what other people will do, and d) having very idiotic analysts who nobody in his or hers right mind listens to. As for the USA and Russia, it seems to me that USA are becoming a socialistic state, and Russia is returning to it's imperial roots. And why would they want Alaska, when they already have at least half of Chicago?
Can you please tell them, "NO! DON'T DO IT!!! SOCIALISM SUCKS!!!" for me? Nobody listens.
Can you please tell them, "NO! DON'T DO IT!!! SOCIALISM SUCKS!!!" for me? Nobody listens.
Depends on the type of socialism. Taking it to extremes of course is a disaster.
Some of USA's allies and trading partners have socialist governments... They have been very successful countries.
Australia - Labor Party
UK - Labour Party
Then again look what the Republicans did to the world.
Started a war with a major oil supplier (that did not have any weapons of mass destruction or have anything to do with 9/11) at a time when supplies have reached a plateau and were under increased demand from China and other nations.
This drove oil prices up making everything more expensive. This depleated the worlds funds.
The Republicans then bankrupted the US trying to pay for a war on 2 fronts (don't forget Afghanistan) that did nothing to improve peace in the Middle East or apprehend Bin Laden.
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Can you please tell them, "NO! DON'T DO IT!!! SOCIALISM SUCKS!!!" for me? Nobody listens.
I listen to you Heathy. And I agree, socialism does suck. Yet people keep trying to make it work. Makes you wonder....
Maybe they've all been brainwashed. I hear college is good for that these days...
Let's face it though, that dude in Russia is a crackpot. At this point in the history of our country, I think the only way you could piss off enough people so that a civil war starts is to cancel American Idol.
Maybe they've all been brainwashed. I hear college is good for that these days...
I keep hearing that, but somehow I never see it. Maybe it's only good for that if you major in Liberal Socialist Theory or something. Certainly my thermodynamics courses back in the '90s never advocated any kind of new world order... and statistical methods of hydrogeological interpretation in '01 failed to provide any enticement to become a communist. I feel like there's a lot of indoctrination that I really missed out on. Maybe I need a third degree?
Regarding Mr. Nutso Russki, I could see how he'd come to that conclusion if he had no inkling of how the Electoral System works. From the election reporting, they make it look like the state of New York is 100% populated by liberal wingnuts, and that there's not a single Libertarian in Texas (ha, ha). Somebody needs to sit the guy down and explain that 51% McCain makes you a 100% red state on TV.
Maybe they've all been brainwashed. I hear college is good for that these days...I keep hearing that, but somehow I never see it. Maybe it's only good for that if you major in Liberal Socialist Theory or something. Certainly my thermodynamics courses back in the '90s never advocated any kind of new world order... and statistical methods of hydrogeological interpretation in '01 failed to provide any enticement to become a communist. I feel like there's a lot of indoctrination that I really missed out on. Maybe I need a third degree?
Regarding Mr. Nutso Russki, I could see how he'd come to that conclusion if he had no inkling of how the Electoral System works. From the election reporting, they make it look like the state of New York is 100% populated by liberal wingnuts, and that there's not a single Libertarian in Texas (ha, ha). Somebody needs to sit the guy down and explain that 51% McCain makes you a 100% red state on TV.
I think it depends on the college. Ivy league schools are notorious for liberal indoctrination. I went to three different colleges in Texas and they were all conservative, which I didn't enjoy because I was a liberal at the time. At one of the colleges, I would say there was quite a bit of conservative indoctrination.
At one of the colleges, I would say there was quite a bit of conservative indoctrination.Don't tell me you were an Aggie...
How dare you accuse me of that! :) Actually I went to Mary-Hardin Baylor, which is a Baptist school. I didn't know that when I enrolled. Perhaps I should of done some research into the school I was going to, huh? Don't get me wrong, I'm not against religion. It just isn't for me.
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At one of the colleges, I would say there was quite a bit of conservative indoctrination.Don't tell me you were an Aggie...
How dare you accuse me of that! :) Actually I went to Mary-Hardin Baylor, which is a Baptist school. I didn't know that when I enrolled. Perhaps I should of done some research into the school I was going to, huh? Don't get me wrong, I'm not against religion. It just isn't for me.
I take it back then. What is "Mary-Hardin Baylor"? I know Baylor in Waco, is it affiliated?
A Russian economist and political scientist is predicting that the United States will break up into at least six different countries before the end of Obama's term. He says that it is because people will realize that Obama cannot work miracles and so they will lose faith in the whole American system. The six regions he predicts are:
the Pacific Coast
The South
Texas
The Atlantic Coast
The Native American States (North and South Dakota, Colorado, Wyoming, Utah, Arizona, and Oklahoma)
The Northern TierOf course his analysis omits Hawaii, and has Alaska becoming part of Russia again. There is also a lot of states that don't seem to fit into these bubbles. What do you think?
He's an idiot.
Alaska speaks english, Russia speaks well russian, what would they do with all the people already in russia? Kick them out? Let me see that would be called WAR.
Alaska is on the FBI's terrorist list for risk to national security because they are the state most likely to seceed from the union.
Alaska (I lived there for years) could bea self sufficent country, if they so chose, but their government is quite decentralized.
By far most russians are idiots. (sorry for offendig you if any ofyou are russian)
I take it back then. What is "Mary-Hardin Baylor"? I know Baylor in Waco, is it affiliated?At one of the colleges, I would say there was quite a bit of conservative indoctrination.Don't tell me you were an Aggie...
How dare you accuse me of that! :) Actually I went to Mary-Hardin Baylor, which is a Baptist school. I didn't know that when I enrolled. Perhaps I should of done some research into the school I was going to, huh? Don't get me wrong, I'm not against religion. It just isn't for me.
Yep. UMHB is in Belton. Back in the day Baylor was the men's school and UMHB was the women's school. You've never heard of Mary-Hardin? We have a great Division III football team. We got to the championship game a few years ago and we were in the semifinals this year. We just can't get by Wisconsin-Whitewater and Mount Union.
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Yep. UMHB is in Belton. Back in the day Baylor was the men's school and UMHB was the women's school. You've never heard of Mary-Hardin? We have a great Division III football team. We got to the championship game a few years ago and we were in the semifinals this year. We just can't get by Wisconsin-Whitewater and Mount Union.I take it back then. What is "Mary-Hardin Baylor"? I know Baylor in Waco, is it affiliated?At one of the colleges, I would say there was quite a bit of conservative indoctrination.Don't tell me you were an Aggie...
How dare you accuse me of that! :) Actually I went to Mary-Hardin Baylor, which is a Baptist school. I didn't know that when I enrolled. Perhaps I should of done some research into the school I was going to, huh? Don't get me wrong, I'm not against religion. It just isn't for me.
Division III? Never heard of it. Do they play "Ironman Seven on Seven" or something? ;)
Division III? Never heard of it. Do they play "Ironman Seven on Seven" or something? ;)Yep. UMHB is in Belton. Back in the day Baylor was the men's school and UMHB was the women's school. You've never heard of Mary-Hardin? We have a great Division III football team. We got to the championship game a few years ago and we were in the semifinals this year. We just can't get by Wisconsin-Whitewater and Mount Union.I take it back then. What is "Mary-Hardin Baylor"? I know Baylor in Waco, is it affiliated?At one of the colleges, I would say there was quite a bit of conservative indoctrination.Don't tell me you were an Aggie...
How dare you accuse me of that! :) Actually I went to Mary-Hardin Baylor, which is a Baptist school. I didn't know that when I enrolled. Perhaps I should of done some research into the school I was going to, huh? Don't get me wrong, I'm not against religion. It just isn't for me.
LOL! Nah, it's regular football. As you know, the college football you watch on TV is Division I-A(or FBS). Then there is Division IAA(or FCS). After that there is division II and then division III. There are no scholarships offered to players. It's small school football in it's purest form. The level of play is nowhere as high as the big boys, but it's better than high school football.
The level of play is nowhere as high as the big boys, but it's better than high school football.
But... "San Diemas High School football rules!"
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Nah, Nevada will become the center of a new hedonistic state that would make the Roman Empire blush with shame. The nation of Nevadafornia will be the place where every vice is available, if the price is right.Knocks up new capital of Nevada (a city for 1 billion islamic citizens) - occupies the entire surface of Nevada.
Kicks dirt on David Fryer's Nevadiafornia Signpost. I dont think so you heretic.
The only problem with your Nevedastan idea is that you seriously overestemate the desire for an Islamic state in the U.S. Even in the Muslim world there is very little desire for an Islamic state, as is evidenced by the extremly small number of them, almost all of which are autocratic governments which at the most maintain the trappings of democracy without giving the people any real power. If a theocracy does grow out of the remains of the United States it will be an evangelical one in the old south. The closest you will see to an Islamic theocracy would be a black seperatist state in Arkansas and Louisiana that might be run by the Nation of Islam. However that would be more about black seperatism and less about Islamic theocracy.
That Russian prof was just on CNN... :)
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Maybe they've all been brainwashed. I hear college is good for that these days...I keep hearing that, but somehow I never see it. Maybe it's only good for that if you major in Liberal Socialist Theory or something. Certainly my thermodynamics courses back in the '90s never advocated any kind of new world order... and statistical methods of hydrogeological interpretation in '01 failed to provide any enticement to become a communist. I feel like there's a lot of indoctrination that I really missed out on. Maybe I need a third degree?
Regarding Mr. Nutso Russki, I could see how he'd come to that conclusion if he had no inkling of how the Electoral System works. From the election reporting, they make it look like the state of New York is 100% populated by liberal wingnuts, and that there's not a single Libertarian in Texas (ha, ha). Somebody needs to sit the guy down and explain that 51% McCain makes you a 100% red state on TV.
Eco had a quote about this in Foucault's Pendulum. His character hung out with the radicals and protested in college to get girls, but he studied something with possible applications to real life in college because if the revolution goes down, well,....they'll probably still need to make trains and run them.
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The only problem with your Nevedastan idea is that you seriously overestemate the desire for an Islamic state in the U.S. Even in the Muslim world there is very little desire for an Islamic state, as is evidenced by the extremly small number of them, almost all of which are autocratic governments which at the most maintain the trappings of democracy without giving the people any real power.
The only problem with that is it seriously underestimates the efforts of jihadis to establish sharia in the U.S. and reduce everyone to dhimmis. It also underestimates the number of people willing to submit themselves to dhimmitude out of guilt at being called racists if they do not.
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It does not underestemate the efforts of jihadists, it mearly acknowledges the reality that it the jihadists cannot force a government based on sharia onto Muslims, who have a tradition of following sharia law then it would by infinately more difficult to force it on a group of people who's cultural and religious traditions do not accept sharia law.
if they want an islamic state in the US we could give them north or south dakota, do we use them for anything anyway?
Once we've given it to them, we can decalre it the new israel, and then all the jews can move there! that would reall tick them off... oh wait, they already did that with palestine,hmmmpf oh well.
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It does not underestemate the efforts of jihadists, it mearly acknowledges the reality that it the jihadists cannot force a government based on sharia onto Muslims, who have a tradition of following sharia law then it would by infinately more difficult to force it on a group of people who's cultural and religious traditions do not accept sharia law.
So doing it twice on entire countries in the last 35 years, plus on the Muslim population of another country, plus putting recognition of it into the constitution of yet another country, plus still more examples of the heavy influence of sharia in all Muslim countries is not enough "reality" of them being able to force it onto governments?
You might want to double check that acknowledgment.And do some checking on the expansion of imposing elements of sharia in other countries, as well as expressions of support for changing all governments, including here in the U.S., to sharia.
It is in fact absurdly easy, particularly when a people are too busy wallowing in guilt.
well Utah is already 50% LDS, was founded BY LDS and if the US fell apart, yea I pretty much think all the mormons would flock to Utah and have a psuedo-pod of their territory that enveloped out to that special part of missouri they are so fond of.
Of course missourians did spenda really good amount of time and effort trying to kill them all too. Maybe it would return to hatfields and mccoys?
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if they want an islamic state in the US we could give them north or south dakota, do we use them for anything anyway?
Once we've given it to them, we can decalre it the new israel, and then all the jews can move there! that would reall tick them off... oh wait, they already did that with palestine,hmmmpf oh well.
Actually it is al-Andalus where a whole bunch of Christians moved to where that has already been done and which ticks them off.
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As someone who is LDS and lives in Utah, I doubt such a thing would occur in Utah at least. Every time the church comments on anything the least bit political, the airwaves and newspapers are flooded with members of the church who say that the church leadership should stick to religious matters and not tell people how to live. They may be a vocal minority, but combined with the non-members who live in Utah, I doubt that there would be a strong feeling for a LDS theocracy. In fact LDS scripture specificely preaches against such a theocracy.
7 We believe that rulers, states, and governments have a right, and are bound to enact laws for the protection of all acitizens in the free exercise of their religious bbelief; but we do not believe that they have a right in justice to deprive citizens of this privilege, or proscribe them in their opinions, so long as a regard and reverence are shown to the laws and such religious opinions do not justify sedition nor conspiracy.
8 We believe that the commission of crime should be apunished according to the nature of the offense; that murder, treason, robbery, theft, and the breach of the general peace, in all respects, should be punished according to their criminality and their tendency to evil among men, by the laws of that government in which the offense is committed; and for the public bpeace and tranquility all men should step forward and use their ability in bringing coffenders against good laws to punishment.
9 We do not believe it just to mingle religious influence with civil government, whereby one religious society is fostered and another proscribed in its spiritual privileges, and the individual rights of its members, as citizens, denied.
10 We believe that all religious societies have a right to deal with their members for disorderly conduct, aaccording to the rules and regulations of such societies; provided that such dealings be for fellowship and good standing; but we do not believe that any religious society has authority to try men on the right of property or life, to take from them this world’s goods, or to put them in jeopardy of either life or limb, or to inflict any physical punishment upon them. They can only excommunicate them from their society, and withdraw from them their fellowship.
11 We believe that men should appeal to the civil law for redress of all awrongs and grievances, where personal abuse is inflicted or the right of property or character infringed, where such laws exist as will protect the same; but we believe that all men are justified in bdefending themselves, their friends, and property, and the government, from the unlawful assaults and encroachments of all persons in times of exigency, where immediate appeal cannot be made to the laws, and relief afforded
Emphasis added
Actually it is al-Andalus where a whole bunch of Christians moved to where that has already been done and which ticks them off.if they want an islamic state in the US we could give them north or south dakota, do we use them for anything anyway?
Once we've given it to them, we can decalre it the new israel, and then all the jews can move there! that would reall tick them off... oh wait, they already did that with palestine,hmmmpf oh well.
where is al-andulas?
is that the muslim way of saying los angles?
Kinda like muslims in alaska, they call it AL-aska.
its kinda funny, actually.
Whats with the AL in front of everything
AL-abama? was that founded by muslims?
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It does not underestemate the efforts of jihadists, it mearly acknowledges the reality that it the jihadists cannot force a government based on sharia onto Muslims, who have a tradition of following sharia law then it would by infinately more difficult to force it on a group of people who's cultural and religious traditions do not accept sharia law.So doing it twice on entire countries in the last 35 years, plus on the Muslim population of another country, plus putting recognition of it into the constitution of yet another country, plus still more examples of the heavy influence of sharia in all Muslim countries is not enough "reality" of them being able to force it onto governments?
You might want to double check that acknowledgment.
And do some checking on the expansion of imposing elements of sharia in other countries, as well as expressions of support for changing all governments, including here in the U.S., to sharia.
It is in fact absurdly easy, particularly when a people are too busy wallowing in guilt.
So two countries in 35 years and two others where elements of Sharia law have been implimented means that it automatically will occur in the U.S.? Don't forget tha in Afghanistan, when the poepl were given the chance they rejected strict Islamic law for a more moderate secular government. Furthermore, there is a difference between an Islamist state like Iran and a nation, like Egypt, where shaira is respected. I would recomend reading this to get a better understanding of what sharia law is all about. For one thng, even in countries where sharia is enshrined as national law, it only applies to Muslims, and non-Muslims live under their own laws. Nations like Iran and Afghanistan actually do not practice sharia as it is defined in the Quoran.
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Actually it is al-Andalus where a whole bunch of Christians moved to where that has already been done and which ticks them off.if they want an islamic state in the US we could give them north or south dakota, do we use them for anything anyway?
Once we've given it to them, we can decalre it the new israel, and then all the jews can move there! that would reall tick them off... oh wait, they already did that with palestine,hmmmpf oh well.
where is al-andulas?
is that the muslim way of saying los angles?
Kinda like muslims in alaska, they call it AL-aska.
its kinda funny, actually.
Whats with the AL in front of everything
AL-abama? was that founded by muslims?
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Whats with the AL in front of everything?
I think it is a preposition with the same meaning as "of" in English, or "ben/bat" in Hebrew...But I'm not a linguist so I could be quite mistaken.
Also, people don't speak "muslim," they speak Farsi and a bunch of other dialects. There's some military ads in the LA Times right now, trying to recruit interpreters for the war, actually.
Mr Weiss- I don't see the relevance of Al-Andalus; that was prior to 1492. While it is possible for history to repeat itself in this way, it seems extremely unlikely. Anyway, if not for North Dakota, where would all the Marshallese go once their islands are underwater due to global warming?
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Actually it is al-Andalus where a whole bunch of Christians moved to where that has already been done and which ticks them off.if they want an islamic state in the US we could give them north or south dakota, do we use them for anything anyway?
Once we've given it to them, we can decalre it the new israel, and then all the jews can move there! that would reall tick them off... oh wait, they already did that with palestine,hmmmpf oh well.
where is al-andulas?
Al-Andulas is the name for Spain and Portugal during the Muslim period from 711-1492 C.E.
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How do you impregnate an entire city?Nah, Nevada will become the center of a new hedonistic state that would make the Roman Empire blush with shame. The nation of Nevadafornia will be the place where every vice is available, if the price is right.Knocks up new capital of Nevada (a city for 1 billion islamic citizens) - occupies the entire surface of Nevada.
Kicks dirt on David Fryer's Nevadiafornia Signpost. I dont think so you heretic.
With lots of effort... and oysters
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Actually it means 'The' as in The Andulas as opposed to an Andulas, Or The Book as opposed to a book.Whats with the AL in front of everything?I think it is a preposition with the same meaning as "of" in English, or "ben/bat" in Hebrew...But I'm not a linguist so I could be quite mistaken.
Ah, it is a preposition used for the definite article. Thank you for clarifying that.
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Ah, it is a preposition used for the definite article. Thank you for clarifying that.Actually it means 'The' as in The Andulas as opposed to an Andulas, Or The Book as opposed to a book.Whats with the AL in front of everything?I think it is a preposition with the same meaning as "of" in English, or "ben/bat" in Hebrew...But I'm not a linguist so I could be quite mistaken.
yep, if you wanna use big words like that. :)
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So two countries in 35 years and two others where elements of Sharia law have been implimented means that it automatically will occur in the U.S.?
No, it means that it is far from the impossibility that you suggest it is.
Don't forget tha in Afghanistan, when the poepl were given the chance they rejected strict Islamic law for a more moderate secular government.
Which is why the Taliban no longer exists.
Furthermore, there is a difference between an Islamist state like Iran and a nation, like Egypt, where shaira is respected.
Unless of course you are a dhimmi.
For one thng, even in countries where sharia is enshrined as national law, it only applies to Muslims, and non-Muslims live under their own laws. Nations like Iran and Afghanistan actually do not practice sharia as it is defined in the Quoran.
Sharia includes rules for dhimmi, which means it applies to non-Muslims as well. That includes things like not being able to testify against a Muslim, and of course all cases involving Muslims are tried in sharia courts, sharia penalties against apostasy, although of course the apostate is no longer a Muslim, and similar laws that apply to non-Muslims.
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I read the material you provided and I did not really come across anything that indicated a growing push towards Dhimmiism. Take the Russian church bell story. The Muslim leader quoted in the story specifically stated that he did not believe that there should be any religious themes in the proposed anthem. That includes Muslim themes. It does not seem very dhimmi at all.
The Indonesia story was another good example. The story of religious persecution was about in-fighting among various Muslim factions. Then the other cited story was about how the Indonesian government was reviewing sharia based local laws, with an eye towards abolishing them, not strengthening them. This actually weakens the argument that States with Islamic majorities are trying to turn the minorities into dhimmi.
In fact most of the stories involved issues that were occuring in Muslim nations within the Muslim community. Take the story about female mutilation. The quoted part of the story ends with the tantalizing hint that Muslim scholars outside of Khurdistan have stated that the practice is un-Islamic.
Other stories have to do with the fact that France is involved with economic talks about Islamic financial services operating in France. Tell me how that would be any different from the U.S. discussing allowing French banks, or British banks to operate in the U.S.? To say that this is a step towards establishing sharia lawin France and making French Christians and Jews into dhinni borders on irrational paranoia.
One thing that is not mentioned there, but is discussed in some depth by Bernard Lewis, the west's formost expert on Islam and Muslim history, is the fact that dhimmi rules were actually adopted by the Muslims from the Byzantines and the Sassanids. In fact the dhimmi regulations did not enter Islamic culture until the absorption of the Byzantine Empire by the Seljuks. I could go on, but it is clear that we will never agree on the subject. I will conclude by say that even if the United States were to collapse on itself, there is still a tradition of independence and personal freedom, especially in th western states, that would not allow people to accept dhinniism. If we were discussing the idea of the Caliphate of New York, or the Islamic Republic of Hollywood I might concede the point, but I don't believe that anyone could create a state of Nevedastan so long as the socopolitical mke up of that region remains the same.
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So two countries in 35 years and two others where elements of Sharia law have been implimented means that it automatically will occur in the U.S.?No, it means that it is far from the impossibility that you suggest it is.
I never said it was an impossibility. I said that it was highly unlikely, since it is even rare among the nations of the Muslim world.
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I really, really doubt there would ever be an Islamic Republic of West Hollywood, though.
Living in Los Angeles, we have quite a large Muslim community, and very large Jewish communities. By and large, though we may disagree politically and especially when it comes to international politics, on a personal level we get along very well. Much better than the Hispanic and African American communities here. I haven't heard of any violence reflected in the death rate. Then again, we do not compete directly for the city's resources or gang teritories, as they do within East LA, and neither culture has a long history of firearms; the cult of the gun seems to elude Semites of both faiths in the West.
Based on my own personal experiences as a student journalist (and I'm a total westsider but I've been all over my natal city), liberalism can and does flourish within many communities. It is something I've seen both my Jewish and Muslim friends struggle with -- and I say that in all truth and honesty, not in a "some of my friends are___" way.
someone's been eating the little packets that they enclose in shoe boxes...
I've got extra. Want one?
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I read the material you provided and I did not really come across anything that indicated a growing push towards Dhimmiism.
You need to check the whole site, not just the front page.
Other stories have to do with the fact that France is involved with economic talks about Islamic financial services operating in France. Tell me how that would be any different from the U.S. discussing allowing French banks, or British banks to operate in the U.S.? To say that this is a step towards establishing sharia lawin France and making French Christians and Jews into dhinni borders on irrational paranoia.
Check that again. It is about letting Islamic financial servies operate in France under Islamic law as opposed to French law.
One thing that is not mentioned there, but is discussed in some depth by Bernard Lewis, the west's formost expert on Islam and Muslim history, is the fact that dhimmi rules were actually adopted by the Muslims from the Byzantines and the Sassanids. In fact the dhimmi regulations did not enter Islamic culture until the absorption of the Byzantine Empire by the Seljuks.
As the dhimmi regulations appear in the koran, that is an intriguing bit of time displacement.
Whether they were copied from Byzantine and Sassanid sources does not change when they were adopted, or that they are a religious element rather than a secular process.I could go on, but it is clear that we will never agree on the subject. I will conclude by say that even if the United States were to collapse on itself, there is still a tradition of independence and personal freedom, especially in th western states, that would not allow people to accept dhinniism. If we were discussing the idea of the Caliphate of New York, or the Islamic Republic of Hollywood I might concede the point, but I don't believe that anyone could create a state of Nevedastan so long as the socopolitical mke up of that region remains the same.
The whole point of establishing an Islamic state and reducing people to dhimmitude is based on subduing people of a different culture and faith. It could only happen in a place outside a current Islamic state.
As for the tradition of personal freedom, it is being replaced by a tradition of paralyzed guilt whenever someone cries "racism" loud enough. That is quite fertile ground for such a change.|
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How do you impregnate an entire city?Knocks up new capital of Nevada (a city for 1 billion islamic citizens) - occupies the entire surface of Nevada.
Kicks dirt on David Fryer's Nevadiafornia Signpost. I dont think so you heretic.
Sperm vapour. You're breathing it now. My plan is coming into fruition. Now, all I have to do is wait 9 months.
Too many pages to read, but I found it also interesting that the breakup boundries fit Aces & Eights (http://www.kenzerco.com/aces_n_eights/downloads/A&8_Political_Map.jpg) if the South won their independance. Of course, some of the states didn't exist yet.
As for the "The Native American States (North and South Dakota, Colorado, Wyoming, Utah, Arizona, and Oklahoma)". Too spread out to support our population base. We would end up crumbling into two pieces relatively quickly.
In the long run, if this were to happen, I think that each state would pick alliances with surrounding states that are financially stable and politically of the same mind (look at the electoral votes over the last 2 decades, shows roughly the same colors).
Besides, I want the "Dakota Territory" back!
I saw that guy on TV today and wondered if...
The Soviet Block gets broken up... so that calamitous result is perhaps their idea of how a strong nation disintegrates. He's projecting. The same way the Japanese have a lot of nuclear apocolypse in their own eschatological predictions. He touts the economic downturn in the US as proof that his theory is correct. That's... poor logic. He's a professor?
What the guy said doesn't match our reality. We're not bound together under threat of force these days. We're not the take to the streets types the way French kids are when they don't like their minimum wage. We have something that binds every state in this union together so tightly our borders chafe under the pressure of closeness... something a Russian economist would never know about and figure into his equations...
We have Paizo.com... the great unifier.
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Today I had a thought that perhaps it is less of projection and more of hopeful thinking on the Russians part. The original prediction came shortly after the Georgia crisis and now, a few days after the guy pops up again, Russia is attempting to provoke a confrontation with the Ukraine by cutting off their natural gas supply. Could it be that someone higher up in the Russian food chain is hoping that something happens in the United Statesto force our attention inward while they make a grab at a new Russian empire and this guy is being used to spread the idea?
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Today I had a thought that perhaps it is less of projection and more of hopeful thinking on the Russians part. The original prediction came shortly after the Georgia crisis and now, a few days after the guy pops up again, Russia is attempting to provoke a confrontation with the Ukraine by cutting off their natural gas supply. Could it be that someone higher up in the Russian food chain is hoping that something happens in the United Statesto force our attention inward while they make a grab at a new Russian empire and this guy is being used to spread the idea?
Actually, going with the obligatory wiki link:
He first suggested this at an information warfare conference a decade ago.
Checking the Wall Street Journal article referenced there, he is a committed Russian nationalist with a picture of the Bering Strait hanging in his home.
Could it be?
If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and propagandizes like a duck . . .
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Actually, going with the obligatory wiki link:If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and propagandizes like a duck . . .
Wow thanks guys I really needed that laugh.