Umbral (Half-)Dragons


Curse of the Crimson Throne

Scarab Sages

I noticed that half-umbral dragons half immunity to Strength drain, even though umbral dragons have no such immunity.

Which brings up the odd point that umbral dragons do not have immunity to Strength damage, which they cause with a breath weapon, but they do have immunity to energy drain, which they cannot cause.

Scarab Sages

Ungoded wrote:
I noticed that half-umbral dragons half immunity to Strength drain, even though umbral dragons have no such immunity.

Huh. That should say "...half-umbral dragons have immunity..."

Spoiler:
Bump.

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Ungoded wrote:

I noticed that half-umbral dragons half immunity to Strength drain, even though umbral dragons have no such immunity.

Which brings up the odd point that umbral dragons do not have immunity to Strength damage, which they cause with a breath weapon, but they do have immunity to energy drain, which they cannot cause.

Umbral dragons are immune to negative energy damage, death effects, and energy drain. Half dragons shouldn't have all of this, but those abilities don't really translate well to halving (what's half of immunity to death effects?), so we split the difference. Umbral dragons have a strength damage breath weapon, so we made half-umbral dragons immune to that plus negative energy (but not death effects).

Scarab Sages

James Jacobs wrote:
Ungoded wrote:

I noticed that half-umbral dragons half immunity to Strength drain, even though umbral dragons have no such immunity.

Which brings up the odd point that umbral dragons do not have immunity to Strength damage, which they cause with a breath weapon, but they do have immunity to energy drain, which they cannot cause.

Umbral dragons are immune to negative energy damage, death effects, and energy drain. Half dragons shouldn't have all of this, but those abilities don't really translate well to halving (what's half of immunity to death effects?), so we split the difference. Umbral dragons have a strength damage breath weapon, so we made half-umbral dragons immune to that plus negative energy (but not death effects).

I can understand not giving half dragons the umbral dragons immunities, I just thought it was odd that half-umbral dragons are immune to strength drain, but umbral dragons aren't.


James Jacobs wrote:

what's half of immunity to death effects?

That undead alien thing scared me half to death!

Reminds me of that joke

Spoiler:

A guy walks along the beach, when he finds something in the sand - an old oil lamp, all dirty from the mud and sand, so he rubs it clean.

As he rubs on the lamb, smoke pours forth from it, resolving itself into the upper torso of a blue-skinned, broad-chested apparition.

"I AM THE MIGHTY DJINN! YOU HAVE FREED ME FROM MY PRISON, SO I SHALL GRANT YOU THREE WISHES"
"Great, I'll...
"BUT! BEFORE YOU WISH FOR ANYTHING, KNOW THAT YOUR MOTHER-IN-LAW WILL BE GIVEN TWICE THE THING I GIVE YOU!"

The man thought for a while, and replied.

"Okay, I want the following three things: Give me 1 billion bucks, a big, nice, tropical island of my own - and then beat me half to death."

Silver Crusade

What book is the half-umbral dragon in?

Silver Crusade

*Bump!

Scarab Sages

It's part of the Castle Scarwall module, so I'd say book 5. In fact, I seem to have the number 80 and 82 bouncing around in my head, so that's probably the approximate page number.

Silver Crusade

thanks its in Crimson Throne - Skeletons of Scarwall

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