Fire Drake Stats

[Jack Kramer]

So I was going through the random encounter chart (in Hook Mountain) looking for some swamp beasts when I saw a Fire Drake mentioned. I turned to the referenced page only to find out I have to buy the module Conquest of Bloodsworn Vale to get the stats!? Really? Seems like a mean thing to suggest a cool creature and make the stats unavailable in the same publication.

So am I missing anything or does anyone have the stats?

Thanks!

[Joey Virtue]

I bet it will come out in there Pathfinder Beastiary in July but thats no help today

[James Jacobs]

Jack Kramer wrote:

So I was going through the random encounter chart (in Hook Mountain) looking for some swamp beasts when I saw a Fire Drake mentioned. I turned to the referenced page only to find out I have to buy the module Conquest of Bloodsworn Vale to get the stats!? Really? Seems like a mean thing to suggest a cool creature and make the stats unavailable in the same publication.

So am I missing anything or does anyone have the stats?

Thanks!

It's certainly not intended to be mean; it's intended to create cross-product support and to enforce the verisimilitude of the setting. If we introduce a new monster in a product that would naturally appear in another (such as the flame drake), it looks a little strange to leave it out.

Usually when we use creatures not from the Monster Manual, we provide a full stat block for them in the text where they appear; the only exception to this is in wandering monster lists which often have such a huge number of creatures to choose from—if there's a monster on that list whose stats you don't have, it's easy enough to just go with the next monster on the list or re-roll. The players will never notice.

[Jack Kramer]

I know why you do it, and I know it isn't intended as mean. :)

I also know that the players won't notice. But I will since I thought that it would be a pretty cool encounter to run from the random encounter list. I may have to go with the crocodiles instead. Nothing instills fear like water for a heavily armored group.

I also know that it is pretty cool that the editor-in-chief responds to questions! Thanks!

I eagerly await your new monster book.

[JoelF847]

Another option you have is to wing it and make a quick version on your own. For example, you can use a Wyvern, remove it's poison sting, and give it a fiery bite that does +1d6 fire damage, a fire breath weapon, and immunity to fire. This would let you add the flavor of a fire drake in that region, even if it's not exactly like the fire drake from the module.

[The Dalesman]

If you have access to Pathfinder #15 - The Armageddon Echo you could also...
(do not open if you are going to be a PC in that AP)

Spoiler:

use the stats for the Forest Drake, and just adjust the acid-based attacks to fire-based ones (and change the acid immunity to fire immunity).

Your Friendly Neighborhood Dalesman
"Bringing Big D**n Justice to the Bad Guys Since 1369 DR"

[Jack Kramer]

Thanks Dalesman! I hadn't yet recieved Pathfinder #15 yet but I just downloaded it and printed out the stats for the Forest Drake. That will work out perfectly.

Also thanks to Joel for the Wyvern suggestion. I would have used that idea had I not had access to Pathfinder #15.

You guys rock! :)

[The Dalesman]

Glad to help! :)

Your Friendly Neighborhood Dalesman
"Bringing Big D**n Justice to the Bad Guys Since 1369 DR"