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ARRRG! okay so I don't watch television much... but I was watching some tonight and I caught the end of Grey Anatomy Torez is kissing some female doctor. WTF I stopped watching that show because George was cheating on this amazing woman who didn't deserve him treating her like that, I couldn't stand it anymore, Torez was this sexy smart Female and a great character. And here's the thing, if I find a female character attractive and shes gay that's no biggie, but that's not what happens, the girl characters I'm attracted to are always straight, but by the end of the show they go gay. Willow from Buffy (I hated that show, but I caught like the 8 episodes I always liked willow, and then one of the episodes I wound up watching cause I like Seth Green as an actor, she's kissing some girl) And those are like the 5th and 6th examples. What is hollywoods deal with making the best female straight characters go gay?
Please don't think I have anything against gay people, my best friend is a lesbian, and I have had three gay roomates.
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I've never seen Grey's Anatomy, but I know what you're talking about.
Having the sexiest, most desirable female lead become or be revealed as gay is quite attractive to a huge slice of the viewing population (lipstick v. butch--you decide; the plethora (though I don't mean there's too many) of 'kissing girls' videos on YouTube).
Importantly for Hollywood, it's a nice way to dispel the generalized American notion that lesbians are otherwise unattractive women with innumerable character flaws, poor hygiene, and no chance at a 'respectable' Christian marriage. Showing attractive gay women in leading social and professional positions is also very becoming to many male viewers (who otherwise wouldn't admit as much).
Just my off-the-cuff opinari.
Having the sexiest, most desirable female lead become or be revealed as gay is quite attractive to a huge slice of the viewing population (lipstick v. butch--you decide).
havent seen it either, I think gay is also seen as being a bit edgy but I doubt she is the lead character. Hollywood isn't that edgy. Gay sidekick = edgy. Gay main character = risky.
Didnt like Buffy - sorry I dont understand.
Well, you've made me want to watch Gray's Anatomy for the first time, so that's something.
~LAUGHTER~ You are almost as bad as I am, Erik!
It sells, man. As soon as it seems popular, edgy, or cool, television, movie, magazine, and book companies begin the slow but inexorable process of ramming a character trait/musical sound/storyline concept into the ground. Eventually the popular/edgy/cool thing loses all meaning as it has been completely and utterly exhausted in the public eye by every company wringing all the street cred they can get out of it.
There's a very good video article on this practice here: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/cool/
This concludes my Anthropology lecture for the day.
PS: Watch out for the "cool hunters".
Can't you have several leads in a show?
yep, could be. As I say haven't seen it so I could be wrong. Just being cynical about motive and stuff.
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He's right though, the only time it was the lead was Ellen (the first one for me, although at least I understand the reasons behind it) back in the day with her show where she worked in a bookstore. Ever since then its a support cast member, and it's always after they've been established as straight. Trust me, I don't like buffy either I couldn't stand the show, but it was on long enough that I did manage to see like eight episodes usually ones that were advertised to look just interesting enough for me to say "well who knows, maybe the show has improved." always to wind up regreting it and hating myself for falling for it again. but like i said, Willow had that quiet nerd chique and I thought she was allright and a pretty interesting character. And Torez was introduced as a love interest to a male supporting character and she was sexy and strong kinda the opposite of Willow, and she went gay. Aparrently any character traits I find attractive in women are the same ones hollywood attributes to being secret or unrealized lesbians. Hope that doesn't bode well for my wife.
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Well, you've made me want to watch Gray's Anatomy for the first time, so that's something.
The first season was allright, by the end of the second season I was starting to get frustrated, and I couldn't watch too much of the third season cause my wife and I were engaged when we were watching it, and the moral seemed to be anyone who gets married will have their marraige fall apart. I haven't seen any since but right before my wife left for a girls night out she changed the chanel to it and I saw the second half of the episode.
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He's right though, the only time it was the lead was Ellen (the first one for me, although at least I understand the reasons behind it) back in the day with her show where she worked in a bookstore.
Which is funny, because Hollywood has been more than willing to take a chance on gay male main characters, ala "Will and Grace."
...the moral seemed to be anyone who gets married will have their marraige fall apart.
Well, maybe the moral is that anybody living in a hyper-competitive, egotistical, medical school environment will sabotage their marriage (or other personal relationships). I would have a much harder time inferring any broader moral about marriage from that show.
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Heck, there's a reason prestigious med schools are starting to ditch grades for 1st year med students. They're finding they've got to find ways to get them to work together because they're otherwise too competitive.
...the moral seemed to be anyone who gets married will have their marraige fall apart.Well, maybe the moral is that anybody living in a hyper-competitive, egotistical, medical school environment will sabotage their marriage (or other personal relationships). I would have a much harder time inferring any broader moral about marriage from that show.
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Heck, there's a reason prestigious med schools are starting to ditch grades for 1st year med students. They're finding they've got to find ways to get them to work together because they're otherwise too competitive.
Without grades how do they weed out the weaker students? Do they wait until the 2nd year?
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...the moral seemed to be anyone who gets married will have their marraige fall apart.Well, maybe the moral is that anybody living in a hyper-competitive, egotistical, medical school environment will sabotage their marriage (or other personal relationships). I would have a much harder time inferring any broader moral about marriage from that show.
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Heck, there's a reason prestigious med schools are starting to ditch grades for 1st year med students. They're finding they've got to find ways to get them to work together because they're otherwise too competitive.
dude, everyone on that shows life is a wreck. maybe your right, but all i'm saying is that they made Torez gay, which seems to be the end result of any female character I'm attracted too on tv. Got a good reason for that?
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dude, everyone on that shows life is a wreck. maybe your right, but all i'm saying is that they made Torez gay, which seems to be the end result of any female character I'm attracted too on tv. Got a good reason for that?
...the moral seemed to be anyone who gets married will have their marraige fall apart.Well, maybe the moral is that anybody living in a hyper-competitive, egotistical, medical school environment will sabotage their marriage (or other personal relationships). I would have a much harder time inferring any broader moral about marriage from that show.
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Heck, there's a reason prestigious med schools are starting to ditch grades for 1st year med students. They're finding they've got to find ways to get them to work together because they're otherwise too competitive.
It's the universe telling you to spend more time looking at your wife and less time looking at girls on television.
dude, everyone on that shows life is a wreck. maybe your right, but all i'm saying is that they made Torez gay, which seems to be the end result of any female character I'm attracted too on tv. Got a good reason for that?
The powers that be who guide the pens of screenwriters have determined that gay is more chic than you.
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The powers that be who guide the pens of screenwriters have determined that gay is more chic than you.
dude, everyone on that shows life is a wreck. maybe your right, but all i'm saying is that they made Torez gay, which seems to be the end result of any female character I'm attracted too on tv. Got a good reason for that?
Maybe the same things that attract you to girls are the same things that attract girls to girls. Dude, maybe you are really a male lesbian.
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It's the universe telling you to spend more time looking at your wife and less time looking at girls on television.
Dude, that's kinda insulting, A) my wife is the most gorgeous woman I have ever known or will know
B) other than Torez, all of the other examples I would site come from before I met her.
C) I only watch TV with my wife and it's rare that I find a character that attractive, I was just stating a trend I've noticed from early on that once again last night came true.
I don't think you were that serious about it but you tread very thin ice when you say things like that because I absolutely adore my wife and comments like that imply otherwise.
What?! Torres went lesbian?... Damn! I nevek knew what she saw on wimpy George anyway...
Whats would be the problem with fake lesbianism? Its "fantasy" anyway, and as said abode, a market strategy.
Cheers for watching lousy tv with your wife! My lovely wife and I do the same and its a nice quality time to talk about stupid shows and cuddle at the cozy couch!
Well, you've made me want to watch Gray's Anatomy for the first time, so that's something.
I take it you haven't seen the YouTube video yet.....
I have almost exactly the same problem, except that mine is that most of the male characters (and actors) I'm attracted to turn out to be straight. It's very...frustrating.
Yes, frustrating is the word.
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I have almost exactly the same problem, except that mine is that most of the male characters (and actors) I'm attracted to turn out to be straight. It's very...frustrating.
Yes, frustrating is the word.
Really, I didn't think there were a lot of shows that started with men that were gay, who then decide that its the vagina they want...
I'm not pissed that I'm attracted to gay characters, I'm pissed that I'm attracted to straight characters that turn gay to boost ratings in later seasons.
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I'm pissed that I'm attracted to straight characters that turn gay to boost ratings in later seasons.
You can't just choose your fetishes, man. Don't worry, we won't judge you. Just roll with it.
I mean, at least straight characters that turn gay to boost ratings are easier to find than lesbian pirates with eyepatches. :(
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I'm pissed that I'm attracted to straight characters that turn gay to boost ratings in later seasons.You can't just choose your fetishes, man. Don't worry, we won't judge you. Just roll with it.
I mean, at least straight characters that turn gay to boost ratings are easier to find than lesbian pirates with eyepatches. :(
mmmmkay wierd. and it's not that I get attracted to them as they go gay, I get attracted to them then later on in the series completely randomly they suddenly find themselves attracted to a woman when they've never been before.
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dude, everyone on that shows life is a wreck.
Change that to just about every show, ever.
I think the last time we saw a married couple on prime-time television that stayed married and weren't dysfunctional was 'Hart to Hart.'
It has been decreed by the marketing flaks in charge of television that 'stable' is boring and that married couples who stay married lack drama. I blame Moonlighting.
This is one of the reasons why I like House. Less bat-s*** insane relationships, more snark and more medicine.
I would label it the Bonaduce Reaction. That is when you're pissed that you were told you were getting one thing only to get a surprise and find out it is something else.