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Heathansson wrote:
Anybody see Hard Bodies?

*Raises hand*

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Moff Rimmer wrote:
Bill Lumberg wrote:
The original Batman movie with Adam West is a great favorite of mine.
Watching them run up and down the pier with the bomb for 10 minutes was simply painful for me.

But the line "somedays you just can't get rid of a bomb" is a classic.

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Errol Flynn swashbucklers. I'm not really ashamed of that, but I do acknowledge that they're dated.

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Mosaic wrote:

I'd have to say "Oscar" - Stallone does gangster comedy. Priceless!

And yet, somehow, very funny.

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Shadewest wrote:

Errol Flynn swashbucklers. I'm not really ashamed of that, but I do acknowledge that they're dated.

Captain Blood is my favorite.

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Any porn. The acting's horrible, there's no plot, setting's cheap, etc., but I can't look away for some reason....

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David Fryer wrote:
Moff Rimmer wrote:
Bill Lumberg wrote:
The original Batman movie with Adam West is a great favorite of mine.
Watching them run up and down the pier with the bomb for 10 minutes was simply painful for me.
But the line "somedays you just can't get rid of a bomb" is a classic.

OMG yes. I love that movie.

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Aberzombie wrote:
Berry Gordy's The Last Dragon. Every instinct tells me I should hate this movie, but I simply can't. Every time I find it on TV, I'll try to watch it. Sho'nuff!

"Am I the Baddest Mofo low down 'round this town?"

"SHO' NUFF!"

I freaking love that movie!

Some I'll add:

Children of the Corn - "Outlander! We have your woman outlander! She still lives!"

Pumpkinhead - "G@@ D#+N YOU WOMAN! G%@ D@+N YOU!" "He already has, son, he already has!"

and of course, C.H.U.D., with Daniel Stern for the win!

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messy wrote:

big trouble in little china.

terrible movie, yet i love it. :-)

messy

I love that movie. A definite cult classic.

Thoth-Amon

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Cant go wrong with Blacula.

Here's a Trailer.

I found the movie to be mesmerizing, you wont be able to look away.

Check them out. You wont be disappointed. Cult classic all the way.

Thoth-Amon

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Moff Rimmer wrote:
Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children. I think I have watched it at least 15 times -- still have no idea what the plot really is supposed to be. Although I think the good guys win at the end.

Hatred...of...Fifth Element...is actually...the Sixth Element...

It burns!!!!!!!


Mystery Men. It is a really bad campy movie. Yet, I seem to watch it every time it pops on the tube.


messy wrote:

big trouble in little china.

terrible movie, yet i love it. :-)

messy

DIE!

That movie is awesome!

I've seen They Live! about 15 times I reckon.

Carpenter.

Yes.

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lastknightleft wrote:
Bill Dunn wrote:

Star Wars Episode 1: Phantom Menace - the only Star Wars prequel worth watching, it has the only 2 interesting characters of the whole prequel series (Darth Maul and Qui Gon Jin), best light saber duel of the whole series

You know I have a theory about the star wars prequels, I firmly believe that he is a good director for a 2 hour film. After that he falls apart. The problem he made all the prequels 3 hours. I believe that if I knew someone capable of doing it I could edit out 1 hour from each of those films and they'd be great movies.

EDIT: obviously the place to start is Jar-jar and any mention of meta-chlorians, then any scene involving R2-D2 flying or the guy who plays anakin being too annoying. Half the lame chase scenes and a couple of other things that ruined the film like Death-sticks *rolls eyes*

There is the Phantom Edit of Episode I, those who have seen it say it is much better.


Bill Dunn wrote:
Star Wars Episode 1: Phantom Menace - the only Star Wars prequel worth watching, it has the only 2 interesting characters of the whole prequel series (Darth Maul and Qui Gon Jin), best light saber duel of the whole series

My brother threatened to stone me for saying this, but Episode II is one of my favorites out of all six. If I could just replace Haydn Christianson with a better actor... And maybe get Quentin Tarantino to re-write the dialogue. But to paraphrase Mary Yamato again, "Any movie with Christopher Lee is good!"

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Bubba-Hotep. Even for a Bruce Cambell movie it was bad. It's like watching someone mow a lawn in slo-mo but I can't stop watching.

Spongebob Squarepants. I'm over 40 damit, I shouldn't find anything funny about the movie. Whenever it's on I'm glued to my couch and sing along to the goofy-goober song. "Sigh" I'm a bad example of a mature adult.

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Bill Lumberg wrote:
Heathansson wrote:
Anybody see Hard Bodies?
*Raises hand*

Ditto.


Kirth Gersen wrote:
Bill Dunn wrote:
Star Wars Episode 1: Phantom Menace - the only Star Wars prequel worth watching, it has the only 2 interesting characters of the whole prequel series (Darth Maul and Qui Gon Jin), best light saber duel of the whole series
My brother threatened to stone me for saying this, but Episode II is one of my favorites out of all six. If I could just replace Haydn Christianson with a better actor... And maybe get Quentin Tarantino to re-write the dialogue. But to paraphrase Mary Yamato again, "Any movie with Christopher Lee is good!"

I would say that Episode 2 rather proves that even Christopher Lee can't save every movie he's in. I think it's the worst of the six.

Of course, I'd probably say that Police Academy 7 likely proves he can't save every movie too. Maybe Gremlins 2. How about Howling 2? Perhaps Captain America 2?
Let's put it this way - putrid skunk roadkill and pus stew is still really vile even if you make it with high quality turkish bay leaves.

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Bill Dunn wrote:


I would say that Episode 2 rather proves that even Christopher Lee can't save every movie he's in. I think it's the worst of the six.

Of course, I'd probably say that Police Academy 7 likely proves he can't save every movie too. Maybe Gremlins 2. How about Howling 2? Perhaps Captain America 2?
Let's put it this way - putrid skunk roadkill and pus stew is still really vile even if you make it with high quality turkish bay leaves.

I must be a flat out Cinemasochist, I liked Gremlins 2.

You know what else I realized I enjoy that I really, really shouldn't? Pauly Shore movies. Encino Man, Jury Duty, In the Army Now, Bio Dome.

I think this post may end up causing me to hang myself in shame before too long.

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Sebastian wrote:
Moff Rimmer wrote:
Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children. I think I have watched it at least 15 times -- still have no idea what the plot really is supposed to be. Although I think the good guys win at the end.

Hatred...of...Fifth Element...is actually...the Sixth Element...

It burns!!!!!!!

The chick's really cute.

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Heathansson wrote:
Sebastian wrote:
Moff Rimmer wrote:
Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children. I think I have watched it at least 15 times -- still have no idea what the plot really is supposed to be. Although I think the good guys win at the end.

Hatred...of...Fifth Element...is actually...the Sixth Element...

It burns!!!!!!!

The chick's really cute.

I saw a woman cosplaying as her at comic-con....yeah.


nevermind wrote:
"Batman IV" - The Joel Schumacher one.... crucify me, but it's the best of the initial series of four....

Gah! No nipples on the batsuit!

I'm a sucker for zombie movies...I'll watch them from beginning to end, no matter how bad they may be. The last one I watched (and liked) was a little thing I found on Fearnet called "Boy Eats Girl."


joela wrote:
Any porn. The acting's horrible, there's no plot, setting's cheap, etc., but I can't look away for some reason....

I'm going to go out on a limb and say it's because of all the sex going on.


Bill Dunn wrote:
I would say that Episode 2 rather proves that even Christopher Lee can't save every movie he's in. I think it's the worst of the six. Of course, I'd probably say that Police Academy 7 likely proves he can't save every movie too. Maybe Gremlins 2. How about Howling 2? Perhaps Captain America 2? Let's put it this way - putrid skunk roadkill and pus stew is still really vile even if you make it with high quality turkish bay leaves.

I understand full well that 99.9% of humanity falls into my borther's camp. But you know what? As a kid, I went to the theatre for parts IV-VI and rocked back and forth in my seat and cheered, and under it all I wanted to know ONE thing: "How did the Emperor take over the galaxy?"

Episode II gave me all the clues I needed, without hitting me over the head with them. When, just before the credits rolled, I saw that the clones were Stormtroopers, the question I first asked in the late '70's/early 80's was finally answered. After that, Episode III was totally superfluous.

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Kirth Gersen wrote:
Bill Dunn wrote:
I would say that Episode 2 rather proves that even Christopher Lee can't save every movie he's in. I think it's the worst of the six. Of course, I'd probably say that Police Academy 7 likely proves he can't save every movie too. Maybe Gremlins 2. How about Howling 2? Perhaps Captain America 2? Let's put it this way - putrid skunk roadkill and pus stew is still really vile even if you make it with high quality turkish bay leaves.

I understand full well that 99.9% of humanity falls into my borther's camp. But you know what? As a kid, I went to the theatre for parts IV-VI and rocked back and forth in my seat and cheered, and under it all I wanted to know ONE thing: "How did the Emperor take over the galaxy?"

Episode II gave me all the clues I needed, without hitting me over the head with them. When, just before the credits rolled, I saw that the clones were Stormtroopers, the question I first asked in the late '70's/early 80's was finally answered. After that, Episode III was totally superfluous.

For me, my nerd-moment was when Jar-Jar called to extend the Chancellor's emergency powers. I totally forgave Lucas all the silly things in all the movies for that moment. He turned a grating, despised character into a legitimate target for revulsion. I mean - he is responsible for Palpatine becoming Emperor!

I'm in a small camp too - I still maintain that Episode I was the best of all the prequels. It really recaptured the fun of the original films for me. It wasn't perfect, but it was a good story. I defy someone to watch Episode I and then Episode VI and not cry when Luke takes off Vader's mask.

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Bill Dunn wrote:
Kirth Gersen wrote:
Bill Dunn wrote:
Star Wars Episode 1: Phantom Menace - the only Star Wars prequel worth watching, it has the only 2 interesting characters of the whole prequel series (Darth Maul and Qui Gon Jin), best light saber duel of the whole series
My brother threatened to stone me for saying this, but Episode II is one of my favorites out of all six. If I could just replace Haydn Christianson with a better actor... And maybe get Quentin Tarantino to re-write the dialogue. But to paraphrase Mary Yamato again, "Any movie with Christopher Lee is good!"

I would say that Episode 2 rather proves that even Christopher Lee can't save every movie he's in. I think it's the worst of the six.

there's a reason his character's name evokes images of soiled diapers...

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Jal Dorak wrote:
I defy someone to watch Episode I and then Episode VI and not cry when Luke takes off Vader's mask.

defy away. i was rooting for the bolt on the pod racer to shake loose so i wouldn't have to watch the annoying brat any more...

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houstonderek wrote:
Jal Dorak wrote:
I defy someone to watch Episode I and then Episode VI and not cry when Luke takes off Vader's mask.
defy away. i was rooting for the bolt on the pod racer to shake loose so i wouldn't have to watch the annoying brat any more...

I guess I'm just looking beyond the movie at the overall story.

At least that proves I'm not reading your mind! :)

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The Christopher Lee mentions remind me of how many old school 50's/60's/70's British horror movies are on my list, many of them with Lee or his opposite number, Peter Cushing.

Damn I love Hammer flicks, even the supremely cheesy ones.

Has anyone else here seen Torture Garden(much tamer than the title might lead one to believe)? It's worth it for Cushing and Jack Palance playing each others' nationalities alone.

Spoiler:
Burgess Meredith as the devil and a head-eating demonic cat are just gravy.

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Mikaze wrote:

The Christopher Lee mentions remind me of how many old school 50's/60's/70's British horror movies are on my list, many of them with Christopher Lee or his opposite number, Peter Cushing.

Damn I love Hammer flicks, even the supremely cheesy ones.

You mean something like this?

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Jal Dorak wrote:
Mikaze wrote:

The Christopher Lee mentions remind me of how many old school 50's/60's/70's British horror movies are on my list, many of them with Christopher Lee or his opposite number, Peter Cushing.

Damn I love Hammer flicks, even the supremely cheesy ones.

You mean something like this?

YES. I honestly have some sort of fixation on those movies. I really do enjoy most of them without any irony.

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Jal Dorak wrote:
houstonderek wrote:
Jal Dorak wrote:
I defy someone to watch Episode I and then Episode VI and not cry when Luke takes off Vader's mask.
defy away. i was rooting for the bolt on the pod racer to shake loose so i wouldn't have to watch the annoying brat any more...

I guess I'm just looking beyond the movie at the overall story.

At least that proves I'm not reading your mind! :)

let me put this in perspective. BEFORE may 21th, 1999, i was one of the biggest star wars lovin' geeks on the planet. AFTER may 21st (i waited until my birthday to see it, i know it went wide release on the 19th, didn't look at a reveiw, refused to speak to anyone who saw it, you gett he idea...) i wanted to slap george lucas so hard his great grandmother would feel it...

i watched the other two (episode II and III) on cable, and was astounded how little i even cared about anakin/darth. i mean, seriously, the most powerful force for evil in the universe is a WHINY EMO BRAT? ARE YOU SERIOUS?????

(yes, i know luke was kinda whiny in the beginning, but he wasn't raised by jedi, either...)

i know i'm probably being stubborn, but i'll never get over how much lucas screwed the pooch with the prequels...

and don't get me started on the "remastered" originals...

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Mikaze wrote:
Jal Dorak wrote:
Mikaze wrote:

The Christopher Lee mentions remind me of how many old school 50's/60's/70's British horror movies are on my list, many of them with Christopher Lee or his opposite number, Peter Cushing.

Damn I love Hammer flicks, even the supremely cheesy ones.

You mean something like this?
YES. I honestly have some sort of fixation on those movies. I really do enjoy most of them without any irony.

Me, too.

I just watched Taste the Blood of Dracula last night.

Ever notice how the heroes speak RP and everyone else speaks Estuary?


magdalena thiriet wrote:
First of all, Starship Troopers is genius, one of the most intelligent (and misunderstood) films made in last 20 years. And the most intelligent and thought-provoking scifi film I have ever seen (yes, I have seen Matrix). The fact that it is also frigging cool comes as an extra.

::crafting magdalena a throne out of the bones of non-Starship Troopers believers::

Completely and totally agree with you. My friend and I were the only ones in the room who realized the movie was meant to be a propaganda reel. I loved it so much I got into the computer animated series, book, RPG, and general culture that came out of it. Loved the level in Starcraft based on it.

The only good bug is a DEAD bug. Have you seen the straight to DVD sequels yet?

Some of my choices have already been listed....Big Trouble in Little China, The Last Dragon(just watched this last night with the wife and a friend..it only got worse with time, but man, the nostalgia..I remember when chinatown was something close to that), They Live, Batman I(wha? Keaton was a wonderful Batman and Bruce Wayne mainly BECAUSE he wasn't perfect for the role- the man is a wonderful ACTOR, and I stress the word actor because part of acting is pretending to be someone and something else. Dont' even get me started on how awesome Nicholson was), Red Sonja, etc. The one set of movies that haven't been put on here are Rutger Hauer movies. I love(repeat, LOVE) Blind Fury and The Blood of Heroes. I'll drop whatever and whoever I'm doing to watch them.


houstonderek wrote:


let me put this in perspective. BEFORE may 21th, 1999, i was one of the biggest star wars lovin' geeks on the planet. AFTER may 21st (i waited until my birthday to see it, i know it went wide release on the 19th, didn't look at a reveiw, refused to speak to anyone who saw it, you gett he idea...) i wanted to slap george lucas so hard his great grandmother would feel it...

i watched the other two (episode II and III) on cable, and was astounded how little i even cared about anakin/darth. i mean, seriously, the most powerful force for evil in the universe is a WHINY EMO BRAT? ARE YOU SERIOUS?????

(yes, i know luke was kinda whiny in the beginning, but he wasn't raised by jedi, either...)

i know i'm probably being stubborn, but i'll never get over how much lucas screwed the pooch with the prequels...

and don't get me started on the "remastered" originals...

Oh, I hear ya. Episode 1 had it's faults (bad directing of a vulnerable child actor probably ruining his potential career, Jar Jar, gotta-top-the-last-series-action-ism). But I'll at least hold up a couple of high points... pretty much none of which existed in the 2 follow-ups.

But I do have to wonder how Lucas felt that going from a guileless, optimistic, and genuinely good-hearted kid of Episode 1 to an emo jerk in Episode 2 made any sense without more information.


Freehold DM wrote:
magdalena thiriet wrote:
First of all, Starship Troopers is genius, one of the most intelligent (and misunderstood) films made in last 20 years. And the most intelligent and thought-provoking scifi film I have ever seen (yes, I have seen Matrix). The fact that it is also frigging cool comes as an extra.

::crafting magdalena a throne out of the bones of non-Starship Troopers believers::

Completely and totally agree with you. My friend and I were the only ones in the room who realized the movie was meant to be a propaganda reel. I loved it so much I got into the computer animated series, book, RPG, and general culture that came out of it. Loved the level in Starcraft based on it.

The only good bug is a DEAD bug. Have you seen the straight to DVD sequels yet?

Thanks for a throne :)

No, I haven't seen the sequels, always a bit scary to see something try to follow a conceptual bullseye, how can those things work...
Though I stand behind my claim that it is one of the most misunderstood films ever, some findind it even right-wing pro-war propaganda, when it was a parody of it...

To put it in nutshell: Starship Troopers is Fox News with giant bugs. The fact that it came out 1997, years before Fox News and war in Iraq shows its visionary nature...

About Star Wars prequels, I found Phantom Menace just really really bad, the two movies after that had some redeeming points (and Christopher Lee...do the math).


First Knight

Richard Gere as a knight for crying out loud. I guess Sean Connery and Julia Ormond (i think) as well as a killer soundtrack make up for it.

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magdalena thiriet wrote:

No, I haven't seen the sequels, always a bit scary to see something try to follow a conceptual bullseye, how can those things work...

Though I stand behind my claim that it is one of the most misunderstood films ever, some findind it even right-wing pro-war propaganda, when it was a parody of it...

Funnily, the reason I didn't like Starship Troopers, among other things, was I felt like the director was so obviously biased against the genre and a military mindset. I don't think it was misunderstood by me. I just hate watching movies where I feel like the whole affair is an attempt at propoganda (left or right wing). Propoganda has its place, but it oughtta be a lot more subtle in most cases, especially in matters of entertainment.

Also it took a classic of military science fiction literature and using the name of the original it mocked the contents of the original. Very disrespectful IMO, even if you disagreed with Heinlein. A lot of people who liked the book disliked that about the movie.

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Jal Dorak wrote:


For me, my nerd-moment was when Jar-Jar called to extend the Chancellor's emergency powers. I totally forgave Lucas all the silly things in all the movies for that moment. He turned a grating, despised character into a legitimate target for revulsion. I mean - he is responsible for Palpatine becoming Emperor!

For me Episode III was the worst because I spent the whole movie waiting for a compleatly unneeded and gratuitous scene where Anikin, now turned to the dark side, lops Jar-Jar's head off.

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Heathansson wrote:
Sebastian wrote:
Moff Rimmer wrote:
Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children. I think I have watched it at least 15 times -- still have no idea what the plot really is supposed to be. Although I think the good guys win at the end.

Hatred...of...Fifth Element...is actually...the Sixth Element...

It burns!!!!!!!

The chick's really cute.

I guess, if women that look like 10 year old boys is your thing...

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I was thinking about the spirit within movie.

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sheesh!!! You'd think that "final fantasy" would infer "just 1!!!"

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Skeld wrote:
Moff Rimmer wrote:
So what movies do you find that you really like even though they should be labeled as bad movies?

The Postman.

/ducks

Actually, I liked it too...

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Andrew Turner wrote:


Me, too.
I just watched Taste the Blood of Dracula last night.

Ever notice how the heroes speak RP and everyone else speaks Estuary?

Oh man, Christopher Lee's counting adventure!

That was one powerful sanctify spell at the end too. Trippy. And probably the easiest Drac defeat ever.

And how about Felix the brothel manager? That guy wasn't just camp, he was practically a national park!

Andrew Turner wrote:


Ever notice how the heroes speak RP and everyone else speaks Estuary?

I'm an Unruly Colonial so it's harder for me to spot, but yeah, I've been noticing some serious accent disparity going on in these movies.

Damn, now I want to bring up Witchfinder General a couple of others, but they're really not appropriate for this thread. Need to kick off a British(or just "Old-School") horror movie thread sometime.

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The Abominable Dr. Phibes.

Discuss.

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- The Postman
- Waterworld
- Starship Troopers
- Bubba Ho-Tep
- Army of Darkness
- The Fifth Element
- Lara Croft: Tomb Raider
- Kull the Conqueror
- Man with a Screaming Brain
- Harold and Kumar go to White Castle
- Eye of the Beast (along with many other Sci-Fi Originals)
- Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure
- The Lost Boys
- Underworld I and II
- Van Helsing
- Kung Pow! - Enter the Fist
- Reign of Fire
- Ator: The Blade Master (possibly the worst film ever made)
- Ator the Flying Eagle (the second-worst film ever made)
- Johnny Mnemonic (Rollins was in it. Leave me alone.)
- The Chronicles of Riddick
- Farscape: the Peacekeeper Wars
- A Knight's Tale (I'm amazed no one's mentioned this)

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grrtigger wrote:

The Abominable Dr. Phibes.

Discuss.

Another classic B-movie that no one should feel guilty about enjoying.

The real question, worthy of debate concerning this film is the identity of Vulnavia. Originally she was scripted to be a clockwork woman, but as that was removed from the script the question is raised as to her identity. I've always liked the theory that she was a demon given flesh in order to aid Phibes in his revenge.

The sequel is also worth watching, though it lacks a little of the style of the first.

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grrtigger wrote:

The Abominable Dr. Phibes.

Discuss.

If he wants to kill you, you're going to die. But at least it will be with style. God, I love Vincent Price.

On an unrelated note, I have to get this non-sequitor from Island of Terror out of my system. Did Peter Cushing ever look young, or was he born working the badass gaunt cheeks?

I can't stress enough how beautiful a site Badmovies.org is.

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grrtigger wrote:

The Abominable Dr. Phibes.

Discuss.

The Dr. Phibes were some of the earlist "flair Killer" moives. Saw, Seven, Nightmare on Elm St.,the Jason movies all owe homage to Dr. Phibes.


David Fryer wrote:
Jal Dorak wrote:


For me, my nerd-moment was when Jar-Jar called to extend the Chancellor's emergency powers. I totally forgave Lucas all the silly things in all the movies for that moment. He turned a grating, despised character into a legitimate target for revulsion. I mean - he is responsible for Palpatine becoming Emperor!
For me Episode III was the worst because I spent the whole movie waiting for a compleatly unneeded and gratuitous scene where Anikin, now turned to the dark side, lops Jar-Jar's head off.

I thought I was the only one that had that sick fantasy. Of course that death would have been too quick for Jar-Jar. The Pit of Carkoon would have been MUCH better.

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