Start Date?


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Anyone have a clue what day or month Second Darkness is supposed to begin on/in (or if it has been left deliberately up to the DM)?

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Majuba wrote:
Anyone have a clue what day or month Second Darkness is supposed to begin on/in (or if it has been left deliberately up to the DM)?

Whenever you need it to.


Mike McArtor wrote:
Majuba wrote:
Anyone have a clue what day or month Second Darkness is supposed to begin on/in (or if it has been left deliberately up to the DM)?

Whenever you need it to.

Oh, fine! Give the easy answer now that you are not working with Paizo! ~cracks the whip~ We expect better out of you, slave!!!

Scarab Sages

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I think a month with lots of rain, and humidity so you can have clouds of the black mosquitoes in the mix would be cool.

What would that be in temperate locals? Spring? Early Fall? Late Summer?


Oathday, 14th of Arodus, 4708 AR. (pg. 15)

I think this might be the same start date as RotRL...

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Foxish wrote:

Oathday, 14th of Arodus, 4708 AR. (pg. 15)

I think this might be the same start date as RotRL...

Or if the text says a start date, go with that. ^_^

Scarab Sages

Foxish wrote:

Oathday, 14th of Arodus, 4708 AR. (pg. 15)

I think this might be the same start date as RotRL...

RotRL would have been in 4707 AR, having been released in 2007.

I believe that, for the most part, you can set the start dates to the real time dates the AP started in. So if the Second Darkness was released in August of 2008, then it would be starting in Arodus (8th month) of 4708.

That it starts on the 14th works as well, since I imagine that may have been the release date of the book, or when a lot of people received their copy.

So yeah. If you ever want to know the 'start date' of a campaign, it's the date the AP started converted from our time to Golarian time. Now you know the secret! :D

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None of the Adventure Paths have an official start date. Some, like Rise of the Runelords, occur on a specific day of the year, but even then the exact YEAR you choose to start it on doesn't matter. For Crimson Throne and Second Darkness, you can start it any day you want.

Scarab Sages

I've seen that said before, and it makes perfect sense. I think suggesting a start date would be helpful though, especially when things like seasons and such are mentioned later in flavor text. It can be a bit halting to, say, set the start date in Winter, then come to some text where an NPC says "like this beautiful Summer we've been having" and then kind of have to backtrack.

Likewise, it also would be nice to have 'suggested' down time details. I know you and others have mentioned before the reasons for not including those, but situations do pop up where NPCs reference dates that may not have progressed in game (for example, Trinia Sabor in CotCT mentions it's been weeks since she last saw the PCs, when that amount of downtime really isn't mentioned elsewhere).

Not saying it has to be a "this is the date, this is the downtime, DO IT" thing, but suggestions would be nice. I don't think they'd take up much room either, just a sentence here and there.


Foxish wrote:

Oathday, 14th of Arodus, 4708 AR. (pg. 15)

I think this might be the same start date as RotRL...

Knew I saw it somewhere, thanks!

And thanks to everyone else too!

Scarab Sages

The date is on the contract the PCs have to sign to participate in the gambling tournament: 14 Arodus 4708.

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