Question for James Jacobs wrt PF9 (poss spoilers)


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Liberty's Edge

Okay, trying to hide any spoilers:

Spoiler:
WRT the rakshasa having a glass jaw and a modified CR8, any other creatures from the SRD you feel also have a glass jaw, and ought to get a lower CR?

Scarab Sages

WRT???

Liberty's Edge

Oh, "with respect to." I don't know if WRT is a real abbreviation of if I just made it up.

Paizo Employee Creative Director

There's a few monsters in the SRD that I would qualify as having glass jaws, yeah. For the most part, though, the SRD monsters are pretty well balanced overall. There are a few standouts, though, such as:

Beholder: Sure, he's got all sorts of eye rays, but if you can just get in there and start hitting him hard, his hit points don't let him hold up. An entire 13th level party getting initiative on a beholder has a VERY good chance of cutting him down before he gets to go.

Ogre Mage: This guy is, honestly, the classic example of the glass jaw syndrome. At CR 8, he's got the hit points of a CR 4 creature and the AC of CR 5. Average damage per round and attack roll is about on par with a CR 5 as well. His SR helps a little, as does his regeneration, but his only real CR 8 worthy aspect is probably his cone of cold, but he only gets that once per day.

Those are the two that immediately come to mind.


Also, various kinds of undead suffer from this problem (since their hit points and Fort saves suffer due to a lack of Con scores). Vampires, for instance.

Ditto for the giant octopus; if you can avoid being grappled, it's pretty feeble.

Paizo Employee Creative Director

hogarth wrote:
Also, various kinds of undead suffer from this problem (since their hit points and Fort saves suffer due to a lack of Con scores). Vampires, for instance.

Exactly. The Death Knight is REALLY hosed in this manner.

Liberty's Edge

Thanks; that's cool to know.

Spoiler:
I always thought that a rakshasa who was clever enough to present as a werewoof could open up the severe woopass on the party who would be trying to put the silver to him when they should be bringing the Holy crossbow bolts.
Then they'd be like like, "oh, shoot. a werewoof that's immune to silver. NOW what?"


Heathansson wrote:
Then they'd be like like, "oh, shoot. a werewoof that's immune to silver. NOW what?"

Same thing we always do. Hit it with power attack buffed two-handed weapons until it stops moving. ;)

Paizo Employee Creative Director

doppelganger wrote:
Heathansson wrote:
Then they'd be like like, "oh, shoot. a werewoof that's immune to silver. NOW what?"
Same thing we always do. Hit it with power attack buffed two-handed weapons until it stops moving. ;)

And that's where the rakshasa falls down. A few power attacks later, his hit points simply aren't gonna hold up.

Of course, it's also strangely easy to kill them with alchemist fire or flasks of acid, since they have NO protection against that.

Liberty's Edge

I get it now. I was woozy yesterday.

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