I believe in this case its the wieght and not the size the makes an ape a large size creature. Anything that 5'6" and 400lbs is large as far as im concerened.
That 1,400 lb farmer dude from Guiness Book of World Records who was buried in a piano box... what was he according to D&D size terms?
Hey wait... there a guy almost that big alive today! 1215 lbs.
I would have to say disgusting
Probably if they re-statted the ape, they would make it Medium with the Powerful Build quality.
I don't think weight should have a bearing on size. Otherwise, very dense objects will be over-sized and very light objects will be under-sized. Like a ginormous hot air ballon might be considered Small, but a 6 inch cube of depleted uranium might be considered Large.
Them don't seem like kosherized rules to me.
I think the missing element here is how WIDE an ape can be.
Yes, it may only be 5 1/2 to 6 feet tall, but it is going to be MUCH wider/thicker than a human.
Thinking that it should be medium is like categorizing a coat rack and a refridgerator together. They may be the same height, but look at them in all 3 dimentions... Major differance.
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*edit* Following along with my post, weight isn't the issue here either. Air elementals come in all shapes and sizes despite their nearly non-exsistant weight. Look at how much space they occupy, that is how size is determined.
Apes only get to the 'large' category when they are fed too many cookies :)
I think the large is because an ape is 5-1/2 to 6 feet tall at the shoulder. If you ever see pics of them around people, they are definitely medium and a half...
What about shocker lizards? They're only listed as a foot tall, but they are size Small. That one got me. Maybe its the wide thing, they do have those tesla-coil horns.
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I think some of you are missing the point: if a six foot tall beast weighing in at 400 pounds came up to me and said it was a Large creature, I don't believe I'd argue...
I have friends who fit that description... in fact, I have friends who fit that description who have made that declaration. Strange.
Ever encountered an irate male up close?
Personally I'm of the opinion their Gargantuan.
Depends what type of ape you are talking about.
Gorilla? Large
Orangutan? Medium
Actually Apes would be medium (big end of medium perhaps but still medium). Here's the creature size chart from the SRD
As you can see 4-8 ft in height for biped or 4-8 ft nose to BASE of tail for quadrapeds is medium and even the biggest living gorilla won't exceed 7 ft much less 8. Actually the size category stuff bugged me on another front: dinosaurs. In several cases dinosaurs were one size category too large (deinonychus and megaraptor spring immediately to mind) because the tail had been included in arriving at that size category when it should not have been. Deinonychus is medium; megaraptor is large are what it should be (and they are those sizes in the SRD)