We're not even out of the Bullywug Gambit yet, but I'm trying to anticipate the question of why Lavinia isn't on the Sea Wyvern with the group. They're probably going to try to have that happen.
So why is it that she's on the "other" ship for Sea Wyvern's Wake?
We're not even out of the Bullywug Gambit yet, but I'm trying to anticipate the question of why Lavinia isn't on the Sea Wyvern with the group. They're probably going to try to have that happen.
So why is it that she's on the "other" ship for Sea Wyvern's Wake?
Several possible reasons:
- She owns the Blue Nixie, while the PCs (probably) own the Sea Wyvern.
- She doesn't trust the Jade Ravens like she does the PCs. (Not in the sense that she thinks they're thieves and liars, but that she doesn't think they've proved themselves capable of taking the responsibility of a ship.)
- Perhaps she wants to maintain a socially-acceptable distance from a blooming relationship with a PC.
Also the Blue Nixie has alwayshad a Captain Vandeboren at the helm, (sailors are a suspicious lot.)
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So why is it that she's on the "other" ship for Sea Wyvern's Wake?
I would turn the question around and ask it from the other point of view: why would Lavinia be on the Sea Wyvern? The Blue Nixie is her ship and the Sea Wyvern belongs to the PC's.
Imagine you and a bunch of friends are going to take 2 separate cars to the movies. Would you let someone else drive your car so you could ride in a friend's car? I imagine a similar situation here. It's more likely that if you wanted to be in a car with a particular person, you'd ask that person to ride with you. But if that person owns/drives the other car (like a PC being captain of the Sea Wyvern), they're just as likely to want to stay with their own vehicle as you would be to stay with yours.
I would bet that Lavinia will insist on staying with her ship. If the PC's feel strongly about being on the same ship with Lavinia, she could suggest they come aboard the Blue Nixie and the Jade Ravens become the resident adventuring party aboard the Sea Wyvern. Change Chapter 3's name to "The Blue Nixie's Wake" and run it as if the Blue Nixie were the Sea Wyvern, but with Lavinia at the helm instead of a PC or Amella.
Of course, it only works if the PC's are will to give up their ties to the Sea Wyvern and aren't willing/capable of captaining it. Heaven forbid they should want to split the party between the 2 ships.
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The reason is that I wanted the PCs to have a sense of ownership for the Sea Wyvern. it's their ship, after all, by right of salvage. Best case scenario, one of the PCs is the captain of the Sea Wyvern. We put in a captain for the Sea Wyvern in case no PC had the skills or interest in being captian, but the adventure path works best when the Sea Wyvern is captained by a PC, really.
Keeping Lavinia as captain of the other ship keeps her available for NPC duty as needed, but also keeps her out of the "starring" role as captain of the ship the adventure's focused on.
The reason is that I wanted the PCs to have a sense of ownership for the Sea Wyvern. it's their ship, after all, by right of salvage. Best case scenario, one of the PCs is the captain of the Sea Wyvern. We put in a captain for the Sea Wyvern in case no PC had the skills or interest in being captian, but the adventure path works best when the Sea Wyvern is captained by a PC, really.
Keeping Lavinia as captain of the other ship keeps her available for NPC duty as needed, but also keeps her out of the "starring" role as captain of the ship the adventure's focused on.
This all makes sense, but I'm worried that half the group will want to maintain the Sea Wyvern while the other half is worried about leaving Lavinia in the care of anyone but themselves...
It's all just speculation at this point, but I'm trying to be ready for when it might come up.
If I push the "ownership" of the Sea Wyvern on them, hopefully that will be enough.
I think it would improve the adventures (SWW & HTBM) to have Lavinia with the party. She's a major NPC of the campaign, the players are supposed to become attached to her, why separate her from the PCs for many, many game sessions? Have her ride on the Sea Wyvern so the players get to know her.
Several possible reasons:
- She owns the Blue Nixie, while the PCs (probably) own the Sea Wyvern.
- She doesn't trust the Jade Ravens like she does the PCs. (Not in the sense that she thinks they're thieves and liars, but that she doesn't think they've proved themselves capable of taking the responsibility of a ship.)
- Perhaps she wants to maintain a socially-acceptable distance from a blooming relationship with a PC.
These suggestions would have worked great when I ran this AP. In mine, the “romance” thing became a really big (and much enjoyed) subplot, in that Lavinia was drawn to one of the PCs who was clearly of a lower class, mildly attacked to another PC who was just not role-played very well, and very much repulsed by Tolin. However, the two interested PCs saw Tolin a serious contender, which I played up by having Lavinia be “too polite” to publicly embarrass Tolin. Anyway, she felt she had to distance herself from ALL THREE would be suitors. This placed the PCs on their own ship with the Jade Ravens, giving Tolin plenty of time to goad the other two. That was a lot of fun.
Just a side note on the whole romance subplot: If you are going to include it, really go for it. If you are half-hearted (unavoidable pun, sorry) about it, it really seems lame. Basically, I let the players make their Cha based rolls, but I put far more weight on the PC whose player really went after it.
I'm with DMFTodd.
If the PC's are hellbent on staying with Lavinia, then have her come aboard the 'Sea Wyvern' and participate in the fun that occurs during the trip and adventure into the interior of the island.
Having her get captured by Orlangru instead of the gnome would be golden in this case! :)
My character, who was trying to develop a relationship with Lavinia, seemed to think and worry about about her more and when she didn't know were she was.
I don't know what prompted me to come back to this thread, but when I was re-reading it, I came across this sentence and now I just have to ask: Is there a typo in this sentence, or was yours a very liberated campaign? Just so my meaning is clear, was your character male or female?
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The Diary of Tristan Lidu
Wow! Great stuff! Now I have to ask: "Tristan" - by any chance inspired by the character in Camalot 3000?
Well seeing as I've never heard of that game or book before I'm going to have to say no. What is Camalot 3000?Wow! Great stuff! Now I have to ask: "Tristan" - by any chance inspired by the character in Camalot 3000?
The Diary of Tristan Lidu
Camelot 3000 was a 12-issue miniseries form DC Comics back in the 80s. It told the story of the return of King Arthur in the year 3000. Most of the main characters of Arthurian Legend were “reincarnated.” This from the Wikipedia entry for Camelot 3000:
“The most original treatment in the work of any of the Arthurian characters is that of the figure of Sir Tristan, who is unexpectedly reincarnated as a woman. His transformation forces him to reexamine his previous conceptions of gender roles and his own sexuality. Although his relationship with Isolde -- also reincarnated as a woman -- is tested by his new identity, their enduring love for one another eventually triumphs, and the two become lovers.”
It’s just such an amazing coincidence. Great stuff!