
Kayotic DM |

Welcome to Callum, Gavgoyle, TerraNova, Lord Thasmudyan and Guy Humual. Here is the thread for character creation and fleshing out of background ideas, enjoy! Any and all questions are welcomed and encouraged. First the setting:
Welcome to Daggerford
Situated on the flood plains of the Delimbiyr and built against the side of a low hill, Daggerford is a small, walled community dominated by the small castle of the local duke. The city is sparsely inhabited but strategically located where the High Road crosses the Delimbiyr River on the south side of the ford.
This self-styled city is a town of about 500 folk. The town is the largest stop on the High Road between Waterdeep and Baldur's Gate. It's home to human craftsmen, a few halflings, and a handful of folk of other races. There are about 20 farming hamlets within a day's walk of Daggerford (15-20 miles), each of which is home to around five families. Each hamlet has a fortified building where the residents retreat in case of raids. There are also isolated farms and a few estates of minor nobility. In all, about 1,200 people depend on the Daggerford market for goods they can't make themselves.
All characters are currently residents of Daggerford and the surrounding area. Over 85% of the populace is human, A few of the dependent hamlets however consist entirely of halflings. Elves, dwarves, half elves and half orcs are all short in supply but the ones that are around are rather prominent in the community.
For more information on Daggerford please feel free to ask or download the shiny pdf 'The North' (which includes a poster map of the town) which is still available for free download from Wizards.com here
Rule Stuff
- First level PCs
- 32 point Standard point buy system as outlined in the DMG
- All standard PC races allowed (Humans are especially encouraged though and nonstandard races will be considered with a good background)
- All standard PC classes allowed, including the Variant Character Classes & Specialist Wizard Variants from Unearthed Arcana which are detailed here
- Characters are allowed up to two character traits (optional)
- Alignments - Any non-evil
- Max starting gold
- Feats are to be picked from the standard PHB selection but others will be accepted if they meet DM approval
- Spells are to be chosen from the PHB & The Spell Compendium
- No psionics, they make my brain bleed!
Skillful - All characters get 2 extra skill points per level. These points must be spent on Craft, Knowledge, Profession or Perform skills only. These bonus parts are multiplied as usual at first level (so 8 skill points useable on Craft, Knowledge, Profession and Perform skills at level 1, and 2 such skill points every subsequent level). In addition, all Craft, Knowledge,Profession and skills are considered class skills for these skill points. These skills get overlooked much too often!
Dice rolls are to be made using Invisible castle and I'm still working out the kinks of potential ways to deal with combat, but I will look into that once we're done with character creation; one step at a time afterall!
Also my husband may be making the occasional appearance as co-DM/writer of NPCs from time to time, just to forwarn you ;)

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Welcome to Callum, Gavgoyle, TerraNova, Lord Thasmudyan and Guy Humual. Here is the thread for character creation and fleshing out of background ideas......
All standard PC classes allowed, including the Variant Character Classes & Specialist Wizard Variants from Unearthed Arcana...
Just to clarify
does this include the complete books? as I was looking at using a base class out of one of them
Kayotic DM |

Just to clarify
does this include the complete books? as I was looking at using a base class out of one of them
Classes in the Complete books are very hit and miss with me, some will fit the setting as I see it and others won't, so if you let me know which you were thinking of and I can say yay or nay.
And Lorderl: Welcome to the sixth slot ;)

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Ok, I've always wanted to build a Fochlucan Lyrist (pg 47, complete adventurer), which means I'd need to be a bard/druid/rogue before I prestige. I'd likely be druid heavy likely bard3/druid5/rogue2 and my character would likely have connections to the bronzewood lodge (if it exists in your setting).
Those are my early thoughts. Let me know what you think.

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Lord Thasmudyan wrote:Just to clarify
does this include the complete books? as I was looking at using a base class out of one of themClasses in the Complete books are very hit and miss with me, some will fit the setting as I see it and others won't, so if you let me know which you were thinking of and I can say yay or nay.
And Lorderl: Welcome to the sixth slot ;)
I was thinking either scout, warlock or ninja??? also no standard are the gensai from FR player guide out or in I was thinking about an Air Gensai????

Kayotic DM |

OK, I noticed the big one I left off of my character creation rules, you're starting at first level. As such while there are Gensai around you couldn't be one as they're level adjusted, sorry!
Class-wise:
Guy: I'm happy for you to aim for Fochlucan Lyricist.
Lord: Scout - Yes, Ninja - Maybe (we'd need to work out a resoning for that kind of training), Warlock - No (just no!)

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OK, I noticed the big one I left off of my character creation rules, you're starting at first level. As such while there are Gensai around you couldn't be one as they're level adjusted, sorry!
Class-wise:
Guy: I'm happy for you to aim for Fochlucan Lyricist.
Lord: Scout - Yes, Ninja - Maybe (we'd need to work out a resoning for that kind of training), Warlock - No (just no!)
so as long as its core its good, no LA. Variant core race from FRC ok?
Have to look over the ninja and scout again will figure out which once I decide on race

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Lorderl: The more obscure the book the less chance of me saying yes. Feel free to check any books you have but things that are hard to squeeze into a setting I can't accept. I can do a little tweaking to fit some classes etc though.
Lord T: Variant core races are ok with me :)
Hey one last quick question I have to find the issue but it was at the end of the dragon print run, anyways it was a variant ninja class for dwarves...if i can find it I will post the gist of it

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Ninja.. dwarves.. ? Blimey, I shall wait and see what that's all about before passing judgement ;)
yeah definitely i just have to remember what issue its in...there were so many ninja variant class acts i can't remember which one it is :( will endeavor to locate it....oh one other class question....do you have the kobold quarterly issue 2? if so is the assassin base class out of that a possiblility?

Kells Gryffoncrest |

Gavgoyle wrote:I would love to be Paladin of Freedom in Daggerford to break up some of the despodic profiteering Balabar Smenk is inflicting on the town.Sounds like a fine and wonderful plan to me ;)
Consider me on the job, Madam. Tyranny shall fall on my blade!

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I'm currently thinking about a backwater girl from one of the outlying farms, who suddenly develops a talents as a sorcerer - causing a few old wounds to break open around her family.
Question: Do you allow the Bloodline feats from the Dragon Compendium? It adds a nice touch to sorcerers, and i don't think they are that overblown powerwise.
As for development, i think i will probably go straight sorcerer, there are not so many prestige classes that lend themselves all that well to sorcerers.

Kayotic DM |

Lorderl: Eeps, give me a while to flick through books and weigh those ideas against things other people are playing - I shall get back to you, I'm just not familiar with the classes so it'll take me a while to read up!
Gavgoyle: Yay Kells! I approve muchly of what you have thus far I'm sure he'll be a wonderful addition to our merry band!
Guy: Druids cannot be CG.. As for Faerunian deities this may be of use to you it has a list of deities and you can search it based on their alignment/portfolio. The Gods commonly worshipped in the local area are; Chauntea, Lathander, Tempus, Tymora & Tyr. I would suggest Tymora for a CG bard ;)
Terra: I'm happy with the bloodline feats and straightout sorcerer is a good way to go ;) I actually had a sorceress of the fire bloodline in my tabletop AoW game that survived until the end ;)

Kessel Cobey |

Guy: Druids cannot be CG.. As for Faerunian deities this may be of use to you it has a list of deities and you can search it based on their alignment/portfolio. The Gods commonly worshipped in the local area are; Chauntea, Lathander, Tempus, Tymora & Tyr. I would suggest Tymora for a CG bard ;)
Oh alignments, will you ever stop sucking? I got em' started, somethings will change I'm sure, but this is the start of my character.

Kayotic DM |

Lorderl: After rooting through all my books I have discovered I do not have a PHB2. I could maybe be conveinced to allow a hexblade, but I'm not happy to have it as the spellcasting requirement for Enlightened Fist. Upon reading Enlightened Fist I see it much more workable as a monk/sorcerer combination.
Lord T: book of exalted deeds is out, mostly. I will make an exception for Champion of Gwynharwyf & the 2 exalted feats needed to get into it however as they're not too OTT and nicely flavourful.
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Love what you have so far Gav, Terra & Guy! Can't wait to see the fun between Darie and Kells!

Kayotic DM |

Ok, i've got the mechanical side of things pretty much down - unless you object to anything, of course. Story-time tomorrow, me sleep now ;)
Nope, no objections here, it's looking good :) It is getting a little late so tomorrow I will have a look through background stuff i have for daggerford & for the ap and will come up with good suggestions for adding to your character background

Lorderl |

Lorderl: After rooting through all my books I have discovered I do not have a PHB2. I could maybe be conveinced to allow a hexblade, but I'm not happy to have it as the spellcasting requirement for Enlightened Fist. Upon reading Enlightened Fist I see it much more workable as a monk/sorcerer combination.
hmmm..., if i went the Hexblade route i would need to reach 6 levels of Hexblade (they're only half caster levels) or get the pacticed Spellcaster feat.
I can look into some other combo if your not comfortable with the Hexblade

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Do we have a dedicated healer yet?
Oh! And because we've been kindly given the option of having free knowledge skills let's not waste that opportunity! Everyone bring something new to the table. Kessel will likely have knowledge history, nature, and of course bardic. Could someone else cover once of the following: religion, dungeonering, and the planes?

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Lorderl: After rooting through all my books I have discovered I do not have a PHB2. I could maybe be conveinced to allow a hexblade, but I'm not happy to have it as the spellcasting requirement for Enlightened Fist. Upon reading Enlightened Fist I see it much more workable as a monk/sorcerer combination.
Lord T: book of exalted deeds is out, mostly. I will make an exception for Champion of Gwynharwyf & the 2 exalted feats needed to get into it however as they're not too OTT and nicely flavourful.
Thanks Kayos, will get this character put together and post it in the morning

Kayotic DM |

We do not have a dedicated healer as yet Lorderl, knowing the adventure path goes it might be a good idea for you to seriously consider your alternate idea! You can have a hexblade but a lack of healy may be bad for all!!
I'm loving Darie so far! She fits well into the background & surrounding area. Shiny.

Lorderl |

healer it will be then, are the deities that you posted earlier the only options open for a cleric or could i look at others?
Just posting some PRC class as i'll know which way to go, just say yes or no to each, I'm still dedating whether to just go support or have combat skills as well?
Gods:
Amaunator ? (dead god, but still has clerics, got'em from your link)
PRC's (in no specific preferrence)
Eye of Horus-Re
Morninglord of Lathander
Contemplative
Radiant Servant of Pelor (will have to be a different god, no pelor in realms, was thinking Amaunator?)

Kayotic DM |

There are other options but I'd prefer you went with living Gods as that would work better with some of the things that will be cropping up later in the AP
I like the morninglord of Lathander, and there is a nice big shiny church to him in Daggerford ;)
Radiant Servant of Pelor; I actually find this works best with Lathander as well :)

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There are other options but I'd prefer you went with living Gods as that would work better with some of the things that will be cropping up later in the AP
I like the morninglord of Lathander, and there is a nice big shiny church to him in Daggerford ;)
Radiant Servant of Pelor; I actually find this works best with Lathander as well :)
should have my character ready for examination in the next few

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Skillful - All characters get 2 extra skill points per level. These points must be spent on Craft, Knowledge, Profession or Perform skills only. These bonus parts are multiplied as usual at first level (so 8 skill points useable on Craft, Knowledge, Profession and Perform skills at level 1, and 2 such skill points every subsequent level). In addition, all Craft, Knowledge,Profession and skills are considered class skills for these skill points. These skills get overlooked much too often!
Almost done stating out character just wanted to clarify the above. so this means that even if it is not usual a class skill for (insert class name here) I can choose from the following Craft, Profession, Knowledge (Any), Perform. Is this correct?

Kayotic DM |

Almost done stating out character just wanted to clarify the above. so this means that even if it is not usual a class skill for (insert class name here) I can choose from the following Craft, Profession, Knowledge (Any), Perform. Is this correct?
That is correct, I find these skills suitably characterful so I like to encourage them ;) They're the sort of things you could have happily picked up in childhood etc before becoming a more adventuresome type!

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Lord Thasmudyan wrote:Almost done stating out character just wanted to clarify the above. so this means that even if it is not usual a class skill for (insert class name here) I can choose from the following Craft, Profession, Knowledge (Any), Perform. Is this correct?That is correct, I find these skills suitably characterful so I like to encourage them ;) They're the sort of things you could have happily picked up in childhood etc before becoming a more adventuresome type!
With this in mind prolly take profession (blacksmith) and craft (armorsmithing & weaponsmithing) as it would support some story ideas I have for my character being the child of a blacksmith :)

RickyFlame |

is my character concept
Human
Bear totem Barbarian (sacrificing trap sense +1)
traits:
quick (if it stacks with fast move if not then aggressive)
Plucky (if i can be a frenzied berserker if not Reckless)
stats ( if allowed frenzied berserker)
str:16
dex:10
con:14
int:10
wis:16
cha:10
stats ( if not allowed)
str:18
dex:14
con:14
int:10
wis:10
cha:8
i'd be interested in some feats and a prestige from complete warrior:
class: Frenzied berserker page 34
Feats:
Destructive rage page 97
Extra rage page 98
intimidating rage page 102
monkey grip: 103
if not i'd like to run straight barb.

Callum |

Sorry for my late entry into this thread - I seem to operate at different times to everyone else! I'm happy to fill out the party, if there are any roles that we feel are missing. So far, it seems we have:
Gavgoyle - Kells Gryffoncrest, Paladin of Freedom
TerraNova - Darie Billown, Sorcerer
Guy Humual - Kessel Cobey, Fochlucan Lyrist (bard3/druid5/rogue2)
Lord Thasmudyan - Zereta of Rauthym, Barbarian -> Fighter -> Champion of Gwynharwyf/Tempest
Lorderl - ?, Monk/Duskblade (PHBII pg19)/Enlightened Fist PRC (CArc pg34)
Though latterly Lorderl seemed to be moving towards a cleric of some kind? Note that I'm happy to fill the healer role, if you'd rather go with your earlier concept. Otherwise, we perhaps need a rogue (for some reason a jolly, bucolic halfling appeals to me) or a wizard (who might sternly lecture Darie on her wayward use of magic).
Please correct me if any of these are wrong!

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Still have to do background but here are my stats of Zereta of Rauthym, local armorer's apprentice and adventurer
Kayos let me know if you think the stats are fine or if I screwed something up
The stats aren't showing up for me >:( I shall keep hitting F5 in the hopes of seeing them soon ;)

Zereta Bludwulf of Ruathym |

Zereta of Rauthym wrote:The stats aren't showing up for me >:( I shall keep hitting F5 in the hopes of seeing them soon ;)Still have to do background but here are my stats of Zereta of Rauthym, local armorer's apprentice and adventurer
Kayos let me know if you think the stats are fine or if I screwed something up
there under my profile name....er rather click on my profile name :P

Lorderl |

Lorderl - ?, Monk/Duskblade (PHBII pg19)/Enlightened Fist PRC (CArc pg34)
Though latterly Lorderl seemed to be moving towards a cleric of some kind? Note that I'm happy to fill the healer role, if you'd rather go with your earlier concept.
well, i believe we still need a rogue, which i thought would have been selected by one of the earlier party members.
I have no problem playing the healer, i was actually just deciding on whether the PRC was going to be Morninglord of Lathander or Radiant Servant of Lathander (it affects my feat and skill selection and such),
unless the healer was something you were set on or had a particular concept you wanted to try?
for some reason a jolly, bucolic halfling appeals to me)
hehe, i missed that you posted this, sounds like a good choice :) I'll do the healer then