Multiple Bard Songs?


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How many bard songs can a character take advantage of? Can one bard play inspire courage (morale bonus) and inspire greatness (competence) in one encounter?

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I think a bard would have to have a prestige class to do both of those at the same time, but I think if two different bards sang it would work. That, or play the next song immediately afterwards since it lasts for a certain amount of time, more if you have the feat that doubles the amount of time... Lingering Song? I think that's what it's called. Since the bonuses aren't the same type, they would stack.


The Bard could do inspire courage then stop (it will linger for 5 rounds without feats) and then do inspire greatness if he wants. I don't have the books in front of me but I think the problem on any benefit that would overlap they are both morale bonuses which would mean they don't stack.


Chris P wrote:
The Bard could do inspire courage then stop (it will linger for 5 rounds without feats) and then do inspire greatness if he wants. I don't have the books in front of me but I think the problem on any benefit that would overlap they are both morale bonuses which would mean they don't stack.

Well, I made the same assumption. But recently it has been pointed out to me that inspire greatness is a competence bonus, while inspire courage is a morale bonus. They could stack.


There are Magical & Masterwork Instruments, as well as new Spells that allow a Bard to sustain one bard song while starting a new song, have two or more songs going simultaneously, or any combination of the above.

In effect it is possible for the right kit and spell combination to allow a bard to have Inspire Courage, Inspire Greatness, and Inspire Heroics all active in the same set of rounds. At which point he gets voted MVP by any fighters or warrior classes in the group. :-)


CharlieRock wrote:


Well, I made the same assumption. But recently it has been pointed out to me that inspire greatness is a competence bonus, while inspire courage is a morale bonus. They could stack.

Yeah I couldn't remember. But really its about the 5 round over lap (10 with a Lingering Song) thats important.

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