| QXL99 |
Two reasons, I think:
1) People tend to dislike any change that takes them out of their comfort zone and will use whatever tactics are available to them in order to resist. Some tactics are positive, others are negative.
2) People tend to prefer 'bad news' over 'good news'--for some reason, it generates more interest (just look at how many posts are on negative discussion threads as opposed to those on positive threads). This is why most news organizations emphasize the negative in their reporting.
I think our PC society is making hate talk worse, not better. In public, people are unwilling/unable to speak their minds for fear of censure. And I certainly agree that we all need to be respectful of each other. But when people cannot disclose what they think or feel, things start building up inside. And so, when you CAN vent you WILL--and I think that a message board is one of those places.
A lot of fights between lovers and friends turn into big nasty shouting matches, not because of the topic, but because of pent up frustrations looking for release. In the same way, I think that message board 'hate' is sometimes more about venting negativity in general than about the merits of the topic...
Venting is good to a point--but not when it creates a toxic social environment. No one likes to suffer alone, but I don't think that a group of people who are in pain necessarily make each other feel better if they dwell on what makes them unhappy. It is said that "the enemy of my enemy is my friend", but as a basis for comaraderie, such a relationship has somewhat limited footing.
I know this is awful philosophical; maybe it's because Christmas is just around the corner. I think of how many people have no family or a family that they don't want to be a part of, and it saddens me because our time on earth is limited and we use so much of it focusing on what frustrates us. So in that spirit I wish you all a Merry Christmas and many pleasant hours with those you love!
| Id Vicious |
This is just my cyincal subconscious talking, but...
There are a lot of things (and people) that make my blood boil. It's the weirdest thing, but I tend to get a lot of really bad vibes from things, people, places, events, etc. If I get enough bad vibes, fear turns to anger, anger leads to hate, and hate leads to suffering. On the part of the (noun) that's bugging me.
I've always had an anger problem. It's a lot better now, but even yesterday, a guy was pissing me off at work, so I chucked a strapping tape cutter at him, and it shattered over the back of his head. You should have seen me when I was a kid. Man, I was EVIL. The neighbors called me Damien, because I made bad things happen to people I didn't like. I once beat a kid over the kneecaps with a baseball bat during a fight (that he started. Punk).
So, off-tangent, hate, for me, is something without a real root cause. It's just one more animalistic feeling that, in this case, seems to be a bit stronger than my others.
Henry Rollins can kiss my ass.
| secretturchinman |
It's a lot better now, but even yesterday, a guy was pissing me off at work, so I chucked a strapping tape cutter at him, and it shattered over the back of his head. You should have seen me when I was a kid. Man, I was EVIL. The neighbors called me Damien, because I made bad things happen to people I didn't like. I once beat a kid over the kneecaps with a baseball bat during a fight (that he started. Punk).
Henry Rollins can kiss my ass.
I like you.
DitheringFool
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Two reasons, I think:<snip>
I stongly believe you are incorrect on both accounts.
Change and negativity have nothing to do with "hate".
Merry Christmas to you too.
| QXL99 |
QXL99 wrote:Two reasons, I think:<snip>I stongly believe you are incorrect on both accounts.
Change and negativity have nothing to do with "hate".
Merry Christmas to you too.
Perhaps I was a little too vague--my title for this thread was inspired (?) by various board discussions like "why do people hate 4e", "why do people hate bards/druids/elves", etc. I was not really thinking of hatred in the broader, metaphorical sense.
DitheringFool
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Perhaps I was a little too vague--my title for this thread was inspired (?) by various board discussions like "why do people hate 4e", "why do people hate bards/druids/elves", etc. I was not really thinking of hatred in the broader, metaphorical sense.
Still, change and pessimism (?) may be sources of fear or jealously but I don't see them as the source of hate on these boards.
Most people just don't like the things important to them crapped on.
Anyone can be made to accept anything with the right kind of approach.
It's only remotely related, but I think you'll see the point:
10-day cruise to the Puerto Rico. The catch was, though, pets
weren't allowed on the cruise. So John decided to leave his cat
with his best friend, Al.
Al agreed to come over to John's house and live with his mom for
the duration of the cruise. John told Al, "Just feed the cat three
meals a day, and take good care of him. He's my prize-winning
cat!" And with that, he left.
The next day, John phoned Al on his cell phone and asked, "How are
things?" To which Al responded, "Things are fine."
"How's Mom?"
"Mom's fine."
"How's the cat?"
"The cat's fine." Satisfied, John hung up.
Next day, John called Al again, asking the same questions.
"How are things?"
"Things are fine."
"How's Mom?"
"Mom's fine."
"How's the cat?"
"The cat's DEAD."
"WHAT?!?" John was quite distressed. "How could you let it die?
It was my prize cat!"
"Well, John, I'm sorry, but I couldn't do anything, I didn't see
it. But what I think happened was that the cat was on the roof,
fell off, and broke his leg. Then, he hobbled out into the road,
and got run over."
John was cooling down a bit now, and said, "Well, couldn't you
have tried to break it to me over time? You could have said it
bit by bit. For example, you could have first said 'The cat's on
the roof', then the next day said 'The cat fell off the roof, and
broke its leg', see what I'm saying."
"Yeah, yeah, I get it. See you later, John."
"Ok... bye." John hung up.
The next day, John phoned Al again.
"How are things?"
"Things are fine."
"How's Mom?"
"Umh," Al said, "Mom's on the roof."