
Jaimsley Cooper |

Is there a date when ST will be put out like Shackled City? I did some short looking on Amazon and a few other sites and found nothing. Am I missing it? I really wanted to buy this whenever it actually gets put out, which I assumed Wizards would do to make some cash off of something they already had.

Humble Minion |

Very frequently asked question. Most likely answer is 'never', since Wizards have not given Paizo the required permission to do so.
STAP is Paizo's rather than WotCs, so Wizards wouldn't be making that much money out of it even if a book were to be published, and Wizards has no incentive to promote 3.5e adventures with 4e just around the corner.

Humble Minion |

Everything produced by Paizo for the Dungeon & Dragon magazines is the propery of WotC, not Paizo. To put out a STAP or AoWAP collected book requires WotC's blessings.
Yeah, probably poor wording on my part.
It belongs to WotC and requires WotC's blessing to go ahead in book form, but Paizo would be the ones making the money out of it rather than WotC.
As far as I know, at least.

Jaimsley Cooper |

Lilith wrote:
Everything produced by Paizo for the Dungeon & Dragon magazines is the propery of WotC, not Paizo. To put out a STAP or AoWAP collected book requires WotC's blessings.Yeah, probably poor wording on my part.
It belongs to WotC and requires WotC's blessing to go ahead in book form, but Paizo would be the ones making the money out of it rather than WotC.
As far as I know, at least.
Wizards owns it, so my presumption is that they would slap it together and sell it, very much like what they did with Ghostwalk. For those that don't know, Wizards decided to tank Monte Cook and Sean K. Reynold's Ghostwalk Campaign. Then, when two or three other d20 publishers tried to buy the rights from WoTC, Wizards decided there must be some money to be made and slapped it together for quick release. I figured they would eventually do something like this with Savage Tide, since it seems like there would be market for it, as people that are nostalgic about the end of Dungeon mag would more than likely buy it, as I had been planning on doing. Actually, the assumption I could buy the entire thing at once someday was kind of a driving factor in my decision to convert all of my Paizo credit into issues of Pathfinder, rather than buying up all of the Dungeon mags I needed to complete ST.

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Humble Minion wrote:Wizards owns it, so my presumption is that they would slap it together and sell it, very much like what they did with Ghostwalk. For those that don't know, Wizards decided to tank Monte Cook and Sean K. Reynold's Ghostwalk Campaign. Then, when two or three other d20 publishers tried to buy the rights from WoTC, Wizards decided there must be some money to be made and slapped it together for quick release. I figured they would eventually do something like this with Savage Tide, since it seems like there would be market for it, as people that are nostalgic about the end of Dungeon mag would more than likely buy it, as I had been planning on doing. Actually, the assumption I could buy the entire thing at once someday was kind of a driving factor in my decision to convert all of my Paizo credit into issues of Pathfinder, rather than buying up all of the Dungeon mags I needed to complete ST.Lilith wrote:
Everything produced by Paizo for the Dungeon & Dragon magazines is the propery of WotC, not Paizo. To put out a STAP or AoWAP collected book requires WotC's blessings.Yeah, probably poor wording on my part.
It belongs to WotC and requires WotC's blessing to go ahead in book form, but Paizo would be the ones making the money out of it rather than WotC.
As far as I know, at least.
I think the chance of them ever making even a crappy book out of this is roughly equal to the chance that I will have sex with Eliza Dushku this evening. In fact I like my odds with Eliza better than the odds of ever seeing a STAP compilation.
The problem is that STAP is 3.5. According to WotC, 3.5 sucks so bad that it will take them until 6th edition to make up for for the suck of it all. On the plus side, at least we get to have online versions of the mags that suck on the order of 10^297 times worse than the actual print versions. Still, be sure to spend odious amounts of money on all the 3rd edition stuff they threw together at the last minute over the next few months because as we saw in the video footage from GenCon, they want us to KEEP PLAYING AND SPENDING MONEY!!!!
Now that my usual irritation with the 4th edition dog and poney show is out of the way, I will itterate again that if you think you might ever want a hard copy of the STAP, go get the mags now. In fact do it yesterday, because there will NEVER be a compilation. I would bet anything on it.

Jaimsley Cooper |

I think the chance of them ever making even a crappy book out of this is roughly equal to the chance that I will have sex with Eliza Dushku this evening. In fact I like my odds with Eliza better than the odds of ever seeing a STAP compilation.
The problem is that STAP is 3.5. According to WotC, 3.5 sucks so bad that it will take them until 6th edition to make up for for the suck of it all. On the plus side, at least we get to have online versions of the mags that suck on the order of 10^297 times worse than the actual print versions. Still, be sure to spend odious amounts of money on all the 3rd edition stuff they threw together at...
Would you bet me Eliza Dushku? I'll take you up on that one.

Jeremy Mac Donald |

Brent is onto a bit of a funny rant but his main point that your not going to see a 3.5 version STAP is accurate. Now its possible that WOTC will one day rework this into 4th Ed. and release it then. Could happen but since they've got at least 3 years worth of material they need to update to 4th edition first you can bet that the absolute fastest this could ever possibly see print would be at least 4 years from now. So there is a very small chance that we might see a STAP compilation one day but there is no chance that this will happen for many years.
Shackled City was updated partly because it ended up being 1/2 done in 3.0 and 1/2 done in 3.5. The compilation made it all 3.5 compliant.