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Sir Kaikillah wrote:It is a fine point indeed, but my original point still stands- it was just unnecessary for marketing- every element of a decent marketing campaign is aimed at garnering more sales- if it any part fails at that, then it should go. No one is going to go "D&D, the f-bomb game, count me in!"Laithoron wrote:That is a very good point....
Anyway, You get the idea. I see the beholder cursing at the end of the flick in the same vein. "If You're thin-skinned enough for this to be offensive to You or You're leary about Your kids hearing this then THIS IS PROBABLY NOT THE PRODUCT FOR YOU!" Pretty simple really.
It was also unnecessary as comedy. Really without the bleep it would have been just as funny.

firbolg |

firbolg wrote:It was also unnecessary as comedy. Really without the bleep it would have been just as funny.Sir Kaikillah wrote:It is a fine point indeed, but my original point still stands- it was just unnecessary for marketing- every element of a decent marketing campaign is aimed at garnering more sales- if it any part fails at that, then it should go. No one is going to go "D&D, the f-bomb game, count me in!"Laithoron wrote:That is a very good point....
Anyway, You get the idea. I see the beholder cursing at the end of the flick in the same vein. "If You're thin-skinned enough for this to be offensive to You or You're leary about Your kids hearing this then THIS IS PROBABLY NOT THE PRODUCT FOR YOU!" Pretty simple really.
Comedy was just the medium, and I've no problem with that. It was still moderately funny and fair enough. That the message itself that is carried was a bit of a non-event (as far as other posters have framed it) seems to beg the question why bother? But I guess this is on of the things WotC is doing to make us feel included.

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Amusing, but the end message was weird to me...beholders can now take on a whole party? That seems to imply they couldn't do so before, but last time I checked the "old" version(s) of the beholder are definitely powerful enough to take on a party alone. So, they're taking away/replacing the beholder's save-or-die abilities, but doing something else (I suppose) to make it be able to stand up to a party better than earlier versions? The only thing a beholder is really missing is self-healing and that can be rectified with appropriate magic items.
So, what was the purpose again?
They're working off a MMORPG model now. so if you group monsters into solo/group, it makes it easier for people who can't do basic math to be Game Masters.

firbolg |

Sir Kaikillah wrote:Comedy was just the medium, and I've no problem with that. It was still moderately funny and fair enough. That the message itself that is carried was a bit of a non-event (as far as other posters have framed it) seems to beg the question why bother? But I guess this is on of the things WotC is doing to make us feel included.firbolg wrote:It was also unnecessary as comedy. Really without the bleep it would have been just as funny.Sir Kaikillah wrote:It is a fine point indeed, but my original point still stands- it was just unnecessary for marketing- every element of a decent marketing campaign is aimed at garnering more sales- if it any part fails at that, then it should go. No one is going to go "D&D, the f-bomb game, count me in!"Laithoron wrote:That is a very good point....
Anyway, You get the idea. I see the beholder cursing at the end of the flick in the same vein. "If You're thin-skinned enough for this to be offensive to You or You're leary about Your kids hearing this then THIS IS PROBABLY NOT THE PRODUCT FOR YOU!" Pretty simple really.
Well, it seems a bit like closing the barn door after the horse has bolted, if that was their idea.

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I thought it was pretty damn funny. I was surprised when the Beholder says (after sneezing and zapping the interviewer) 'f+!~ this,' but that was part of the humor. It doesn't bother me, insomuch as arguing that the profanity alienates parents; I had a Stand By Me-mouth when I was 11, so I'm nowhere near thinking kids are more likely to curse because the Beholder did it...
Here's the YouTube link (you know, you can stay logged in at Wizards for 2 weeks at a time, but if you're demoing some Civil Disobedience, the YouTube quality is fine...)
EDIT: as to the timed efficacy of a Beholder's rays...I've been playing it that way in my game for years; I like it.