So... uh... the beholder cartoon... that was different.


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k3ndawg wrote:
So what if I abso-freakin'-lutely refuse to sign up for D&D Insider or PukeMax? :P

You wno't ever get to play D&D again. The Wiz O nazis will storm your house and confiscate all your books. Then you will be forced to play my little pony D20.

Do you really want that. Well do yahh!


firbolg wrote:
Sir Kaikillah wrote:
Laithoron wrote:

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Anyway, You get the idea. I see the beholder cursing at the end of the flick in the same vein. "If You're thin-skinned enough for this to be offensive to You or You're leary about Your kids hearing this then THIS IS PROBABLY NOT THE PRODUCT FOR YOU!" Pretty simple really.
That is a very good point.
It is a fine point indeed, but my original point still stands- it was just unnecessary for marketing- every element of a decent marketing campaign is aimed at garnering more sales- if it any part fails at that, then it should go. No one is going to go "D&D, the f-bomb game, count me in!"

It was also unnecessary as comedy. Really without the bleep it would have been just as funny.


Sir Kaikillah wrote:
firbolg wrote:
Sir Kaikillah wrote:
Laithoron wrote:

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Anyway, You get the idea. I see the beholder cursing at the end of the flick in the same vein. "If You're thin-skinned enough for this to be offensive to You or You're leary about Your kids hearing this then THIS IS PROBABLY NOT THE PRODUCT FOR YOU!" Pretty simple really.
That is a very good point.
It is a fine point indeed, but my original point still stands- it was just unnecessary for marketing- every element of a decent marketing campaign is aimed at garnering more sales- if it any part fails at that, then it should go. No one is going to go "D&D, the f-bomb game, count me in!"
It was also unnecessary as comedy. Really without the bleep it would have been just as funny.

Comedy was just the medium, and I've no problem with that. It was still moderately funny and fair enough. That the message itself that is carried was a bit of a non-event (as far as other posters have framed it) seems to beg the question why bother? But I guess this is on of the things WotC is doing to make us feel included.

Dark Archive

"No Sir, I didn't like it." :)

*solo mob? bah...

Scarab Sages

erian_7 wrote:

Amusing, but the end message was weird to me...beholders can now take on a whole party? That seems to imply they couldn't do so before, but last time I checked the "old" version(s) of the beholder are definitely powerful enough to take on a party alone. So, they're taking away/replacing the beholder's save-or-die abilities, but doing something else (I suppose) to make it be able to stand up to a party better than earlier versions? The only thing a beholder is really missing is self-healing and that can be rectified with appropriate magic items.

So, what was the purpose again?

They're working off a MMORPG model now. so if you group monsters into solo/group, it makes it easier for people who can't do basic math to be Game Masters.


firbolg wrote:
Sir Kaikillah wrote:
firbolg wrote:
Sir Kaikillah wrote:
Laithoron wrote:

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Anyway, You get the idea. I see the beholder cursing at the end of the flick in the same vein. "If You're thin-skinned enough for this to be offensive to You or You're leary about Your kids hearing this then THIS IS PROBABLY NOT THE PRODUCT FOR YOU!" Pretty simple really.
That is a very good point.
It is a fine point indeed, but my original point still stands- it was just unnecessary for marketing- every element of a decent marketing campaign is aimed at garnering more sales- if it any part fails at that, then it should go. No one is going to go "D&D, the f-bomb game, count me in!"
It was also unnecessary as comedy. Really without the bleep it would have been just as funny.
Comedy was just the medium, and I've no problem with that. It was still moderately funny and fair enough. That the message itself that is carried was a bit of a non-event (as far as other posters have framed it) seems to beg the question why bother? But I guess this is on of the things WotC is doing to make us feel included.

Well, it seems a bit like closing the barn door after the horse has bolted, if that was their idea.

Dark Archive

Yeah, they had plenty of opportunity to include us, and have neglected to do so. Even the outside "playtesting" was laughable. Why should they care what we think about the game? They know best, and they are firing us in the hopes of replacing us with WOW-addicted 13 year olds.

Liberty's Edge

I thought it was pretty damn funny. I was surprised when the Beholder says (after sneezing and zapping the interviewer) 'f+!~ this,' but that was part of the humor. It doesn't bother me, insomuch as arguing that the profanity alienates parents; I had a Stand By Me-mouth when I was 11, so I'm nowhere near thinking kids are more likely to curse because the Beholder did it...

Here's the YouTube link (you know, you can stay logged in at Wizards for 2 weeks at a time, but if you're demoing some Civil Disobedience, the YouTube quality is fine...)

EDIT: as to the timed efficacy of a Beholder's rays...I've been playing it that way in my game for years; I like it.

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