Foxglove Sisters (minor Skinsaw spoiler)

[firedancer]

Hi, I've read through the Skinsaw murders and there's a glaring hook that I expect one of my players to follow up, and I'm seeing what ideas others may have for this.

Aldern has 2 sisters, named by their portraits in the Misgivings, and suggested to be living still. Often I get a goodly PC who will be interested in following this up and seeing all is well with the orphans. Occasionally I get a cad who will see orphaned noblewoman as a means to better their station in life. The blaggard!

So, a question for Paizo guys; do either of the sisters make another appearance in a product? If not, all the better.

So, what do we know? Well, they are both older than Aldern (who is 19 or 20), and like him raised by their father's second cousin in Korvosa. Korvosa receives much more details in chronicles and is the subject of the next AP, and is where Aldern had "unpleasant upbringing".

So, brainstorm away please, I shall share a couple of my ideas tomorrow.

Cheers.

[Matthew Morris]

One is mentioned in Gallery of evil

[James Jacobs]

The other MIGHT be mentioned or play a role in Curse of the Crimson Thone. Not sure yet.

[Azzy]

firedancer wrote:

The blaggard!

You know, the proper spelling of that term is blackguard. ;)

Disclaimer: I'm just playfully nitpicking, please don't take offense.

[DarkArt]

My player has sent a message to the living relatives. After the relevant time has passed, the sisters want nothing to do with Foxglove Manor (bad memories, and they've last heard how much it would take to renovate anyway). As far as the Townhouse is concerned, they might want an amount for the property after it is sold. The sisters have essentially moved on, and they might just forget the whole affair.

Personally, I'm having the Mayor freeze all assets related to the cult and Aldern, and using that to pay for the reward. The Mayor likewise offers the property of either Ironbriar or Aldern if they want it.

[firedancer]

Matthew Morris wrote:

One is mentioned in Gallery of evil

mentioned? to what extent? in passing, no further detail, or with "since coming to Korvosa.." hang on, isn't GoE in Absalom..., so she's moved on a bit then.

Can you give me a spoiler if necessary....I've contemplated getting GoE as there's always space for a side quest

[firedancer]

Azzy wrote:

firedancer wrote:

The blaggard!

You know, the proper spelling of that term is blackguard. ;)

Disclaimer: I'm just playfully nitpicking, please don't take offense.

I shall parry your nitpicking and riposte with its the corruption of blackguard that doesn't have other DnD connotations.

Now, where's that smiley with its tongue poking out.....

[firedancer]

James Jacobs wrote:

The other MIGHT be mentioned or play a role in Curse of the Crimson Thone. Not sure yet.

right. Well, I guess I might have to wait for that to clear it up then - I have plenty of time as won't be starting AP this year.

Anyhow, what I've been toying with....

Spoiler:

The Foxgloves are poor, so much money has been wasted by Vorel and then Travers....The 2nd cousin has tried to find a match for the eldest daughter, but no luck yet. Any interest from a notable adventurer might result in taking advantage of that situation, albeit written correspondance to start with, perhaps leading to a visit to the family holdings.

Otherwise, well, they've looted the family home, legal proceedings beckon.

The youngest daughter has little value and so has been neglected, left locked away as the cousin and oldest do the round of parties etc. unfortunately, being alone in the dark with haunted memories has driven her mildly insane.

I think I'll leave her with the belief returning to the family home could bring back happier times, and her sister certainly wouldn't want to abandon her. From there Vorel may see a chance at another go.....child of his blood conceived in his haunted house leading to his rebirth. I'll have to think on a way for him to manipulate things if he can.

[DarkArt]

That sounds like a cool idea. What's the various gods' take on taking on multiple wives and, or husbands, btw?

I can't help but also imagine the scenario where Merisiel marries Seoni, Valeros marries Kyra, and then Kyra wants to marry Seoni and they need to find a vicar willing to connect all of the "dots," as it were.

[KaeYoss]

Azzy wrote:

firedancer wrote:

The blaggard!

You know, the proper spelling of that term is blackguard. ;)

Disclaimer: I'm just playfully nitpicking, please don't take offense.

Baah! Nitpick, will you? I curse you and summon a pack of feral goblins who will dance around you all day shouting "BLAGGARD" all day, wearing blaggard t-shirts and caps, and writing blaggard on your skin when you're asleep (and one has a needle and tattooing skills for when you pass out from the stuff they'll slip you. Guess what will be tattooed to your forehead, mirror-inverted to greet you every morning?)

;-P

[Glen Irving]

I noticed this plot hook too. If my future nosy players stumble across this entry of mine, do not click on the spoiler button!

RotRL Hamilton New Zealand spoiler:

It looks like I might have two females joining my protogroup. One has roleplayed before, the other hasn't. I am seriously considering making both the Foxglove sisters. But they want to be adventurers, and anonymous ones at that. Heh.

I only have #8 and #9 of the Curse of the Crimson Throne (FLGS sale, I don't usually purchase modules unless I'm going to run the adventure, in case I get a chance to play). Could anyone please confirm whether either Foxglove sister makes an appearance in this Adventure Path?

I will feel stupid of course if they do appear in #8 or #9. I don't have time to read through them at moment as I am expecting our RotRL campaign to start next week.

[Moonbeam]

Neither appears in Curse of the Crimson Throne.

Zeeva Foxglove (sister #2) is mentioned as being a Korvosan Merchant in the Guide to Korvosa. But that can be easily changed in your campaign... since as written, the PC's don't meet her during the CotCT adventures.

I think your idea of introducing the 2 sisters as adventurers is very cool and you should go for it! In my CotCT game, Zeeva is actually one of the PC's. ;) The other sister (I forget her name), is in Absalom, though.

[Studpuffin]

Moonbeam wrote:

Neither appears in Curse of the Crimson Throne.

Zeeva Foxglove (sister #2) is mentioned as being a Korvosan Merchant in the Guide to Korvosa. But that can be easily changed in your campaign... since as written, the PC's don't meet her during the CotCT adventures.

I think your idea of introducing the 2 sisters as adventurers is very cool and you should go for it! In my CotCT game, Zeeva is actually one of the PC's. ;) The other sister (I forget her name), is in Absalom, though.

I stuck Zeeva in my CotCT game as well, running her market. She's become an ally of the PCs in just the last session, actually. They made a very good diplomacy check against her while haggling, then made another later on when looking for other supplies and succeeded very well.

I'm not sure what's up with the other sister though.

[Kharis2000]

My party hasn't gotten to Magnimar yet, so I'm waiting to see what they do with the sisters before adding them back in. I may, in fact, have them encounter one of them in Korvosa when we move on to CotCT after this; I like the feeling of continuity that it gives between the modules to have their new characters meet her there.

[Studpuffin]

Certainly the APs seem to have a lot of nepotism, so to speak. The first two adventures from both RotRL and CotCT utilize relatives of characters from one another. I can name at least three instances off-hand, and I'm sure there are quite a few more that I am missing.

[Mikaze]

Studpuffin wrote:

Certainly the APs seem to have a lot of nepotism, so to speak. The first two adventures from both RotRL and CotCT utilize relatives of characters from one another. I can name at least three instances off-hand, and I'm sure there are quite a few more that I am missing.

Spoiler:

Ameiko from Sandpoint/RotRL is supposed to be a key figure in AP7. Something involving her family back in Tian Xia and a trip over the Crown Of The World, IIRC. I believe Sandpoint is the launching point for that AP as well.

[Studpuffin]

Mikaze wrote:

** spoiler omitted **

Really? That is awesome! I do like the fact that they have recurring characters through out the APs. I'm always amazed at the ways they work the NPC social networks during development.

[Mark Moreland]

Studpuffin wrote:

Certainly the APs seem to have a lot of nepotism, so to speak. The first two adventures from both RotRL and CotCT utilize relatives of characters from one another. I can name at least three instances off-hand, and I'm sure there are quite a few more that I am missing.

Second Darkness involves at one additional connection, Verik and Orik's father. I don't know if there are any others I've missed.

[The Dalesman]

Moonbeam wrote:

Neither appears in Curse of the Crimson Throne.

Zeeva Foxglove (sister #2) is mentioned as being a Korvosan Merchant in the Guide to Korvosa. But that can be easily changed in your campaign... since as written, the PC's don't meet her during the CotCT adventures.

I think your idea of introducing the 2 sisters as adventurers is very cool and you should go for it! In my CotCT game, Zeeva is actually one of the PC's. ;) The other sister (I forget her name), is in Absalom, though.

Does anybody have page number references for each sister? I'm trying to skim through my Korvosa & Absalom guides and can't find them at all (of course)... :)

Your Friendly Neighborhood Dalesman
"Bringing Big D**n Justice to the Bad Guys Since 1369 DR"

[Mark Moreland]

The Dalesman wrote:

Does anybody have page number references for each sister? I'm trying to skim through my Korvosa & Absalom guides and can't find them at all (of course)... :)

Zeeva is mentioned on page 30 of Guide to Korvosa in the Green Market subsection of South Shore. Sendeli is mentioned on page 26 of U1: Gallery of Evil in her own subsection of the Who's Who section.

[The Dalesman]

yoda8myhead wrote:

Zeeva is mentioned on page 30 of Guide to Korvosa in the Green Market subsection of South Shore. Sendeli is mentioned on page 26 of U1: Gallery of Evil in her own subsection of the Who's Who section.

Excellent....many thanks! :)

Your Friendly Neighborhood Dalesman
"Bringing Big D**n Justice to the Bad Guys Since 1369 DR"

[James Jacobs]

Since the first three APs take place in the same region, reusing characters and families was a very conscious design choice. There's a LOT of them scattered throughout the adventures; mostly between adventures in the same AP, of course, but others are certainly cross-adventure characters and have cameos elsewhere.

As for Ameiko...

Spoiler:

She is indeed scheduled to be the main NPC of an upcoming Adventure Path—the "Jade Regent" adventure path, in which she discovers that she's the heir to the throne in Minkai or some such, and has to recruit the PCs' aid in traveling from Sandpoint to retrace the route taken by her ancestors north, over the Crown of the World, and down into Tian Xia to help bring order to Minkai or something like that. This isn't going to be AP7. It was at one point going to be AP 5, and then AP 6, and then AP 7, but we've been hesitant about nailing down when it occurs because it requires a LOT of other books to support. There's going to be samurais and kappas and ninjas and tea ceremonies, after all. "Jade Regent" will hopefully eventually appear as an AP, but not before 2011, it's looking like...

[Studpuffin]

James Jacobs wrote:

Since the first three APs take place in the same region, reusing characters and families was a very conscious design choice. There's a LOT of them scattered throughout the adventures; mostly between adventures in the same AP, of course, but others are certainly cross-adventure characters and have cameos elsewhere.

As for Ameiko...
** spoiler omitted **

Raspberries!

[WormysQueue]

You know, James, I can only run so many APs at one time, so would you please stop having awesome ideas forcing me to run another one!

Spoiler:

Just kidding, of course, I can't have enough of your awesomesauce :)