
Ragadolf |

Players;
I think I agree with Arctaris on this one. While it has been fun role-playing my characters self-restraint, most of the time due to direct intervention from Lucienne, He hasn't been doing "what it takes to get the job done". He is a good person, and wants to help others. But that doesn't mean he is 'nice'.
Let's get out of this madhouse, and then see what we can find. ;)

Logos |
I've noticed a few more for players spoilers than i would like, If you would like a purely player discussion thread I can start a more concentrated Dming discussion/information thread or just put the rest in the IC thread, althought I'd perfer not to do that.
If it a desire for secrecy, I can understand if not entirely sympathize, If I'm not surposed to know what your saying I can't really correct any erroneous assumptions I may (or in this case will not) see.
just an idea. I don't mind either way, if you feel the Dm is ruining your vast scheming.

JSL |
If it a desire for secrecy, I can understand if not entirely sympathize, If I'm not surposed to know what your saying I can't really correct any erroneous assumptions I may (or in this case will not) see.
Given the death of a party member under somewhat unexpected (though I suppose not entirely unavoidable) circumstances, we are rightly doing a bit of post mortum to see if or how our characters' approach needs to change. Putting something under a spoiler tag tends to ensure that the desired audience takes it in a more personal context as communication directed to them and not spammed to the world at large.
Nothing is intended to be secret. There is nothing mean-spirited, insulting, or even critical behind any of the spoilers.

Ragadolf |

I think if WE can't get out of here in less than 24 hours, we have bigger problems than decomposition to worry about. I don't know about Rom, but I'm almost out of spell-juice. We are ALL injured, and Luc and Maddock are/were the only ones who can use that wand! Even if we can get some rest for a spell recharge, (Or we just go to blasting with wands), we are still gonna be running on a few HP each.
IN the books, this is where the heroes, outnumbered and injured, come up with a brilliantly clever plan to out WIT their adversaries, and escape without a further scratch,...
UNfortunately, I'm a much better FAN of those books than I am a writer,... suggestions?!?
Radavel- Yes. Well, not so much from the Sillmarillion as from one of the dozen of reference books put out ABOUT the entire series that my father had collected. :) I was perusing one of the larger ones back in HIgh School, and thought that the translation (basically 'Dark one' or Dark Prince' If i recall), was pretty cool, and I've used it off & on ever since.

Logos |
time for questions qeueries and clarifications. its a lot of text and its not their to confuse but to lay out things for you. If you have questions over something that has already been covered you can ask for clarification either here or ic, new questions I would perfer go Ic and perferably before you begin training which i do plan on montaging more than a little. and yes if it takes a montage its probably gonna be eating into your save lucienne time, so if you want to give it a go for a week and then montage, we can do that too.
happy hunting.
Logos

Arctaris |

I'd like to get her back in time to be raised but I don't think that's practical. Without Maddock or Lucienne we don't have any healing capabilities, we're all wounded (some of us badly), and the woman who took her body looks to be more than we can handle. My vote's to train up and then deal with finding someone to Resurrect her. I'll go with whatever the majority is though.

Ragadolf |

Regarding your offer of "4 bonus skill points or a Weapon Focus" May I take a Weapon Familiarity: Martial (Or at least 'Swords') instead? This could reflect the martial aspect of his training, and he would love to be able to USE his mentor's 'True Strike' Sword he has been carrying all this time!
Now that I have a target for my mentor's sword, I'd love the chance to actually HIT him with it! (Without the -4 to hit from not having the weapon familiarity.)
I will update the character sheet asap. Thanks!
:D

Ragadolf |

Before we assault the 'mini-castle', I just wanted to make sure we are all on the same page.
'Lucienne' was much better at this, but here goes, please feel free to correct me if I am wrong,...
1) The 'mini-castle' is the control area of the castle, correct?
We need access to it if we are to return this castle to the 'real world'.
2) The 'shrubbery' is the control/power source for the castle, we need them to return the castle to the real world.
3) The 'shrubbery' was stolen, and I believe lies in the LOWER portion of the castle, as far as we know? (This is where I get fuzzy) We need to find them and return them to the control area.
4) Lucienne's mother, (Now a vampire) and her boyfriend, (The same vampire that killed my mentor/father figure), have LUcienne's body. (We ARE going to get it back!) :) AND are in command of the control area.
BUT, they are ALSO looking for the shrubbery, so that they can return to the real world.
So, a frontal assault may not be needed. IF we find teh shrubbery FIRST, they will likely let us just walk in for an audience.
Now, I have no intention of letting this evil free upon the world again, and I doubt they would let us live even if they promised to, so I see an undead-smackdown coming either way. I'm just wondering if it wouldn't easier to find teh shrubbery first, THEN pay them a visit, knowing we will at least get an audience, than to assault the entire 'twinkie brigade' and have to wipe them all out, and STILL have to find the shrubbery!
Just my thoughts, please correct me on any parts where I have misunderstood, or add anything important that I missed!
Thanks!

Logos |
Before we assault the 'mini-castle', I just wanted to make sure we are all on the same page.
'Lucienne' was much better at this, but here goes, please feel free to correct me if I am wrong,...1) The 'mini-castle' is the control area of the castle, correct?
We need access to it if we are to return this castle to the 'real world'.2) The 'shrubbery' is the control/power source for the castle, we need them to return the castle to the real world.
3) The 'shrubbery' was stolen, and I believe lies in the LOWER portion of the castle, as far as we know? (This is where I get fuzzy) We need to find them and return them to the control area.
4) Lucienne's mother, (Now a vampire) and her boyfriend, (The same vampire that killed my mentor/father figure), have LUcienne's body. (We ARE going to get it back!) :) AND are in command of the control area.
BUT, they are ALSO looking for the shrubbery, so that they can return to the real world.
So, a frontal assault may not be needed. IF we find teh shrubbery FIRST, they will likely let us just walk in for an audience.Now, I have no intention of letting this evil free upon the world again, and I doubt they would let us live even if they promised to, so I see an undead-smackdown coming either way. I'm just wondering if it wouldn't easier to find teh shrubbery first, THEN pay them a visit, knowing we will at least get an audience, than to assault the entire 'twinkie brigade' and have to wipe them all out, and STILL have to find the shrubbery!
Just my thoughts, please correct me on any parts where I have misunderstood, or add anything important that I missed!
Thanks!
1> The Mini castle is the gatehouse to the upper castle, presumably within somewhere is a control like area if there is one.
2> Yes, but shrubberies, there are two , one of light and one of darkness.
3> the shrubberies were stolen, but are still in the castel somewhere althought not in the middle. You need to find them and do something with them.
4> this is the sketchiest of your points, luciennes mother who appears to be a vampire, and her boyfriend appear to be holed up in the upper layer.
They must already have a way back and forth , as YOU made your way into the castle, and secondly the castle is 10,000 years old and lucienne and by extension her mother and your master is not. The boyfriend already has a way out into the real world, and uses it occassionaly or this whole set up would make even less sense then it does.
as for your last little bit whether its annihilate the twinky brigade or find the shrubberies first its all the same isn't it. Addition doesn't matter which way its going, 2+1 and 1+2 = 3. Its only a matter of preferences.

JSL |
Thank you, that clarifies it better for me!
How about the others, any questions, or shall we proceed with "Operation Annihilate Twinkie Brigade"?
(I love the nicknames we have ended up giving to all of these NPC's!)
Frankly, I was hoping to be slapping them around by now.
But, I guess we are retreating until Chris can get back up to speed.
I still vote to go up first, if only because we're likely to learn more by going after the head - at least we know who the bigs are in that direction.
Perhaps Lucienne will come back with some info that will persuade us to tackle something else first. On the other hand, if she knows her way around in there, going into the castle might be the easiest.