Epic weapons?


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Hi I got the last adventur and it just hit me, is there any oppertunity besides possibly the mercanes for the players to get epic weapons to overcome Demogorgon's DR. I was wondering if I missed something. Thanks.

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Nope. Epic weapons are super expensive, and it's VERY unlikely that the PCs will be able to find any before they're around 25 level or higher. Certainly, there's none to be found as designed in the adventure. Which means that pretty much every time the PCs hit Demogorgon with their puny mortal weapons... subtract 20 points. He IS CR 33, after all.


Or, since the PCs know they're hanging around such big baddies, one of them might think to get a +4 or +5 Outsider (Evil) Bane weapon which then would be epic vs. Demogorgon. (Hopefully they don't forget to make it good & cold iron also...)


Of course they could get a Shadow Striking weapon (ToM, p 155) - +3 enhancement that bypasses any DR. Then again, these might not all that easy to acquire due to the restrictions in the enchanting process.... Even if the GM allows ToM material in the campaign.

Of course, playing with warblade from BoNS in my campaign , DR is not really much of a subject for the MT, given the capabilities of the "stone dragon" school of combat. But that way he only strikes once each round...

Other people invested in the "Sense Weakness" feat from Draconomicon.

Overall, I like the high DRs encountered throughout the STAP, really puts a leash on those whirling dervish lookalikes when their weaponry keeps bouncing off the baddies.... several times a turn !

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Castilliano wrote:
Or, since the PCs know they're hanging around such big baddies, one of them might think to get a +4 or +5 Outsider (Evil) Bane weapon which then would be epic vs. Demogorgon. (Hopefully they don't forget to make it good & cold iron also...)

Good thinking. A quick "Align Weapon" can easily fix half of that, of course.


You could always shapechange into a Solar - you'd gain the Solar's DR (Epic) which (in combination with a correctly aligned and materially constructed weapon) would alow you to bypass Ol'Demogorgon's DR. At least until he hit you with a Quickened Greater Dispell Magic... Or he could just hit you. Like about 10 times in a round dealing out damage at a minimum of... better not mention it. Let's just just say you'd be dead. I just don't see how a party can go more than 4 rounds with Demogorgon (1 for each PC). But I digress; try Shapechange. That'll probably get his attention (if that's the kind of thing your PC is interested in).

Cheers,
C.


Castilliano wrote:
Or, since the PCs know they're hanging around such big baddies, one of them might think to get a +4 or +5 Outsider (Evil) Bane weapon which then would be epic vs. Demogorgon. (Hopefully they don't forget to make it good & cold iron also...)

I do not think this works...an Epic Weapon is either a weapon with a basic +6 enhancement bonus or with combined bonuses higher than +10, at least that is how I understood it...so an Epic Weapon must really be crafted as an Epic Weapon and cannot be "emulated".

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