I haven't voted yet but:
I used Abadar and Lamashtu in my Prologue to RotRAP and have to say I like both very much, great to here that they will be detailed in the near future.
Asmodeus sounds nice, but he just isn't the one for me.
There simply has to be a deity like Calistria for the young ones around 15, but since I am almost ten years older she doesn't thrill me that much (did I just wrote that?).
The Realms have Tempus and we have Gorum, enough said.
Greyhawk has Erythnul and we have Rovagug and I think every world has to have a mad butcher worshipped by evil humanoids and monsters.
Gozreh is cool, I like deities like him, but somehow there are others that interest me more than he does.
Irori is of no interest to me, ... yet.
Again I have to compare this deity to one of another world: IMHO Norgorber is the Vecna of our shiny new Golarion. I have read the great CB-article in Dragon, so...
Torag is a good one, too. But I don't like deities like him THAT much. The cleric of my PCs worships him so more information on him would be neat!
Urgathoa is GREAT I would love to hear mor on her! The background of two PCs feature minions of her extensively, so again: information on her would be quite handy!
I simply LOVE Shelyn, but as Mr. Mike McArthor posted enough to satisy my thirst for lore on her, for the moment.
Let's come to my favorites: Cayden Cailean, Desna, Erastil, Iomedae, Nethys, Pharasma, Sarenrae, just can't wait to read more on them. I can't, I simply can't!
BUT to be honest Zon-Kuthon is simply my cup of tea! Deities of darkness are just the best! Tell me more about the god of envy!!! (Have to vote now)
BUT to be honest Zon-Kuthon is simply my cup of tea! Deities of darkness are just the best! Tell me more about the god of envy!!! (Have to vote now)
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Among the Greyhawk gods, Rovagug's a lot more like Tharizdun than any other, actually. The closest Erythnul-like deity among our core 20 gods is probably Lamashtu. Rovagug's more of a cosmic menace, Lovecraft style than anything recognizably humanoid or with humanoid goals and desires.
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Among the Greyhawk gods, Rovagug's a lot more like Tharizdun than any other, actually. The closest Erythnul-like deity among our core 20 gods is probably Lamashtu. Rovagug's more of a cosmic menace, Lovecraft style than anything recognizably humanoid or with humanoid goals and desires.
Como? Did you mean the reverse? Or, am I reading the player's guide wrong? Seems like Lamashtu (madness, monsters, nightmares) is more Lovecraftian and Rovagug (wrath, disaster, destruction) is more Erythnul...ian.
Among the Greyhawk gods, Rovagug's a lot more like Tharizdun than any other, actually. The closest Erythnul-like deity among our core 20 gods is probably Lamashtu. Rovagug's more of a cosmic menace, Lovecraft style than anything recognizably humanoid or with humanoid goals and desires.
Okay, than I just got the wrong feel for the two deities.
Como? Did you mean the reverse? Or, am I reading the player's guide wrong? Seems like Lamashtu (madness, monsters, nightmares) is more Lovecraftian and Rovagug (wrath, disaster, destruction) is more Erythnul...ian.
Sounds (or reads) logical to me.
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Como? Did you mean the reverse? Or, am I reading the player's guide wrong? Seems like Lamashtu (madness, monsters, nightmares) is more Lovecraftian and Rovagug (wrath, disaster, destruction) is more Erythnul...ian.
Nope. Lamashtu's certainly got some Lovecraft elements in her, but she's humanoid in shape and is the primary deity of most monsters. A fair number of monster races and types were actually created by her, in fact. She's also going to be one of the more commonly worshiped deities by giants, I believe (although the giants will have other minor gods here and there as well.) A fair amount of information about Lamashtu will be in Rise of the Runelords, actually, especially in #5.
Rovagug is a much more primal force of destructive entropy. He's inhuman in shape, has very few large human cults, and is one of those deities that's "so bad" that the rest of the deities sometimes have to form unlikely alliances against him when he gets riled up. Rovagug may or may not have some information forthcoming during Curse of the Crimson Throne. He's got some worshipers among giants, of course, but his main body of worshipers is looking like it might end up being the orcs. There are probably more similarities between him and Erythnul than I first let on, but he's not like Erythnul in that he's not really into (or really even aware of) his worshipers, nor is he humanoid shaped.
Another way to think of these two gods are like this:
Lamashtu = "man-made" chaos and evil, with a heavy lean toward spellcasters and large cults.
Rovagug = "nature-made" chaos and evil, with a heavy lean toward barbaric types and small cults (or even individual lone wolf types).
Thanks for making this clear Mr. Jacobs. Now Rovagug is much more interesting to me and I can't wait for more on him! Do I recognize something ... abyssal about Rovagug? Please say so! This old primeval evil! Why should those lame devils get a deity and not the first evildoers of demonkind after all? :P
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Thanks for making this clear Mr. Jacobs. Now Rovagug is much more interesting to me and I can't wait for more on him! Do I recognize something ... abyssal about Rovagug? Please say so! This old primeval evil! Why should those lame devils get a deity and not the first evildoers of demonkind after all? :P
Rovagug (like about half of the gods on the list) is from my homebrew campaign world. So is Obox-ob. We can't use Obox-ob, of course, becasue I kind of already gave him up and over to WotC (which is only fair, since I got the name from the 1st edition Monster Manual II anyway). Rovagug has more or less stepped in to fill the vacancy left by Obox-ob in my mind, so yeah, you can expect there to be quite a few similarities between him and Obox-ob. And you can expect there to be some pretty well-established conflicts between Rovagug and Asmodeus as well.
Plus... Rovagug's got a Lovecraft monster name hidden in his name (Gug) so it makes sense that he's more Lovecraftian than Lamashtu. :-)
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You said lots of info would be about Lamashtu in #5, but i thought her "core beliefs" would be in #4?
It got moved from #4 to #5 due to a scheduling conflict. The article about dragons originally scheduled for #5 got moved to #4 as a result. Yet another reason why having to send out solicitations early raises my blood pressure...
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I'm not at all surprised that Asmodeus is in the lead, since he's really the only deity with any name recognition we have. As a result... in a weird sort of way, you probably won't see much in Pathfinder about him at the start. People already know more or less what his deal is.
But yes, eventually, he'll have a presence. I have some personal plans for him, in fact, that may just involve some hellfire and brimstone next year...
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I'm not at all surprised that Asmodeus is in the lead, since he's really the only deity with any name recognition we have. As a result... in a weird sort of way, you probably won't see much in Pathfinder about him at the start. People already know more or less what his deal is.
James - a quick question - will Asmodeus be basically the same as we've come to know him? Or will Pathfinder have a different take on him? Pazuzu?
I'm not looking for spoilers, just whether or not they will be basically what we already know, or if we can expect some big surprises.
'Cause...damn....I love me some Pazuzu.
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Chances are VERY GOOD that Pazuzu will show up sooner or later. He's kind of sort of already in there, actually... just not by name in the Chopper story.
As for Asmodeus... I expect he'll be pretty much the same as we all know him, but probably with a stronger tie to his traditional/mythological role. We didn't pick Asmodeus as a deity just to go and do something unexpected with him, after all... he'll be the same old devil we all love to hate. So no big surprises there.
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Chances are VERY GOOD that Pazuzu will show up sooner or later. He's kind of sort of already in there, actually... just not by name in the Chopper story.
As for Asmodeus... I expect he'll be pretty much the same as we all know him, but probably with a stronger tie to his traditional/mythological role. We didn't pick Asmodeus as a deity just to go and do something unexpected with him, after all... he'll be the same old devil we all love to hate. So no big surprises there.
Sweet. Loved the Chopper story btw. When I read that on the blog - well, it was like when you're 8, and Santa gets you exactly what you want for Christmas.
Good to hear about Asmodeus too - can't wait for whatever you guys have in stock for them.
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Another way to think of these two gods are like this:Lamashtu = "man-made" chaos and evil, with a heavy lean toward spellcasters and large cults.
Rovagug = "nature-made" chaos and evil, with a heavy lean toward barbaric types and small cults (or even individual lone wolf types).
Thank for taking the time to clarify. Great stuff!
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It got moved from #4 to #5 due to a scheduling conflict. The article about dragons originally scheduled for #5 got moved to #4 as a result. Yet another reason why having to send out solicitations early raises my blood pressure...
Heh heh... dragon appendix... heh heh...
*sweats*
(Psst, they're not articles, James. Pathfinder isn't a magazine...) ;D
It got moved from #4 to #5 due to a scheduling conflict. The article about dragons originally scheduled for #5 got moved to #4 as a result. Yet another reason why having to send out solicitations early raises my blood pressure...Heh heh... dragon appendix... heh heh...
*sweats*
(Psst, they're not articles, James. Pathfinder isn't a magazine...) ;D
Chapter, perhaps? ;)
Chapter, perhaps? ;)Works for me.
Unfortunately, settling on word choice does little to get the piece closer to completion. ;)
Aah! I misunderstood what the *sweating* was for. Is this your dream assignment then--getting to define dragons for the new world? No pressure! :) Can't wait to see it! Feel free to spoil it for us with teasers. :D
Depending on your preference for encouragement, here's a *whipcrack* or a *cookie* to help the arti... appendix along! :D
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Aah! I misunderstood what the *sweating* was for. Is this your dream assignment then--getting to define dragons for the new world? No pressure! :) Can't wait to see it! Feel free to spoil it for us with teasers. :D
Yeah, no pressure at all. Heh heh... *nervous glances*
Depending on your preference for encouragement, here's a *whipcrack* or a *cookie* to help the arti... appendix along! :D
I'll take the cookie, thanks. Save your abuse for Sutter. ;D
Thanks for the support. :)
I had to vote for Cayden Cailean since it's my sons name... well except the spelling (Caeden is the correct spelling!) and his last name isn't Cailean, okay so its kinda my sons name. ;)
Caeden is Gaelic/Scottish meaning "spirit of war" which probably has nothing to do with the deity.
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I had to vote for Cayden Cailean since it's my sons name... well except the spelling (Caeden is the correct spelling!) and his last name isn't Cailean, okay so its kinda my sons name. ;)
Caeden is Gaelic/Scottish meaning "spirit of war" which probably has nothing to do with the deity.
Seeing that name makes me think "Kato Kaelin."
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So it seems like Asmodeus is going to win this...by a lot...any idea when we'll find out more about him?
I'm not at all surprised that Asmodeus is in the lead, since he's really the only deity with any name recognition we have. As a result... in a weird sort of way, you probably won't see much in Pathfinder about him at the start. People already know more or less what his deal is.
But yes, eventually, he'll have a presence. I have some personal plans for him, in fact, that may just involve some hellfire and brimstone next year...
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Although I like many of them, I'm going to have to say Sarenrae at this point. Here's a few reasons why:
1) Roleplay & Rollplay Potential...
2) Favored Weapon & Martial Tradition...
3) Ideals & Domains...
4) Details & Background...
5) Name & Connotations...
As the patron deity of the first Pathfinder Iconic Cleric, I would think Sarenrae warrants a Core Beliefs article sooner, rather than later.
Word!
Couldn't find the "None" choice. Guess I'll abstain.
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I just added a new post to general, didn't see this poll until after that.
But even so, the deity I want to find out about isn't even in the poll!
Aroden!
What happened to Aroden? What happened to his followers? Did any of them convert to another god? Who is most compatible? Did some of his/her followers end up in the north, if so, what area/city would be most likely?
If a PC wants to play a former follower of Aroden who fled north, what's the backstory?
Pete
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I just added a new post to general, didn't see this poll until after that.
But even so, the deity I want to find out about isn't even in the poll!
Aroden!
What happened to Aroden? What happened to his followers? Did any of them convert to another god? Who is most compatible? Did some of his/her followers end up in the north, if so, what area/city would be most likely?
If a PC wants to play a former follower of Aroden who fled north, what's the backstory?
Pete
See an excellent reply to this over at: Aroden
I have a more practical reason: I want to know more about Sarenrae because Kyra worships Her, and my player has selected to play these pre-generated characters. Lamashtu and Desna would be my personal preference outside of my player's knowledge since they seem like opposing and interesting deities.
I already know enough of Asmodeus from my own delving into religion and the numerous supplements from D&D.
Just got the first issue in the mail today and took a quick look and definitely like the interesting deities i saw........most assuredly Asmodeus is the one i want to know more about.....hopefully the things i saw in the first issue continue thru the next 5......you guys look like you have another winner on your hands.....thank you for caring and not going the way of cookie cutter monsters and cookie cutter characters like someone else who shall remain nameless
I like the look of Erastil, he looks like a great Ranger god. Maybe have the clerics look more like a ranger than the 'normal' cleric.
I voted Asmodeus because I want to see the Pathfinder take on him. But Lahamastu and Callistra were also ones I was interested in, but since I could only pick one well...
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I really enjoyed Pathfinder 1 and am looking forward to getting #2. I think you guys are doing an excellent job with this and your GameMastery products. I do have a couple quick questions though.
Would it be possible to make an official correlation between the pantheon in Pathfinder, and the core Greyhawk pantheon? I will most likely keep some of the pantheon intact (Desna, Lamashtu, at least) but as I run multiple games, I may introduce the core deities to reduce confusion for myself and the players, and I'd prefer to do it in such a way that I don't cause problems later.
One small question about Sandpoint - does the listed population include the farmlands homesteads, or just the people living in town?
Jim
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I really enjoyed Pathfinder 1 and am looking forward to getting #2. I think you guys are doing an excellent job with this and your GameMastery products. I do have a couple quick questions though.
Would it be possible to make an official correlation between the pantheon in Pathfinder, and the core Greyhawk pantheon? I will most likely keep some of the pantheon intact (Desna, Lamashtu, at least) but as I run multiple games, I may introduce the core deities to reduce confusion for myself and the players, and I'd prefer to do it in such a way that I don't cause problems later.
One small question about Sandpoint - does the listed population include the farmlands homesteads, or just the people living in town?
Jim
I dropped in some answers for these on the other thread, but the short version is nope, we can't do an official correlation between our pantheon of deities and any of Wizards of the Coast's pantheons, including the core Greyhawk pantheon. And the farmlands are not included in Sandpoint's population total.
Cross posting from the other thread, here's my unofficial conversion.
Boccob = Nethys
Corellon Larethian = Iomedae, Cayden Cailean
Ehlonna = Erastil
Erythnul = Norgorber
Fharlanghn = Desna
Garl Glittergold = Abadar
Gruumsh = Rovagug
Heironeous = Torag
Hextor = Asmodeus
Kord = Gorum
Moradin = Torag, Irori
Nerull = Urgathoa
Obad-Hai = Gozreh
Olidammara = Calistria
Pelor = Sarenrae
St Cuthbert = Sarenrae, Iomedae, Torag
Vecna = Norgorber, Zon-Kuthon
Wee Jas = Pharasma
Yondalla = Shelyn
Tharizdun isn't a core PHB deity, but I would use Lamashtu in his place.
Who's your favorite deity?
(This poll courtesy Mike McArtor.)
Edit: Retitled poll to "Which deity would you like to know more about?"
Edit: And moved thread to Pathfinder General Discussion forum. One of these days I'll get it right the first time....
I only voted for Asmodeus, because I could not vote for Loki.
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I dropped in some answers for these on the other thread, but the short version is nope, we can't do an official correlation between our pantheon of deities and any of Wizards of the Coast's pantheons, including the core Greyhawk pantheon. And the farmlands are not included in Sandpoint's population total.
Sorry James, I'm not sure I found the other thread. I did see your comments in the first thread, but if they are somewhere else, could you post a link? I understand the answer, I'll use the 'unofficial' list.