So, after much deliberation, Andante and I sat down and fleshed out her character.
It's... not a cleric of Selune anymore. The concept is MOSTLY the same, but... well... I'll let her say it. :D
What the heck, why aren't there any avatars that look like freakin' female drow? >.<
Oh yeah, folks. We scratched that half-elf cleric of Selune idea and replaced it with a half-drow cleric of Eilistraee.
Hmm... maybe I'll just use THIS avatar for Riann, and make my main avatar something else...
That sounds...interesting. :)
What do we know about *that* deity?
Half drow...I'm assuming still good though? Obviously matters for Thelen, the literal knight in shining armor.
Sounds cool.
Elistraee is the ONLY Good deity in the Drow Pantheon. She's the goddess of the surface-dwelling drow in Cormanthor forest (well, the good ones anyway. The bad ones follow Selvetarm or Vhaeraun.). She is still a moon goddess in a sense and her dogma involves converting the other drow to her faith so that they may promote harmony and cooperation with the other races.
Basically, Elistraee is trying to redeem the drow race in the eyes of the rest of the world. Her followers are typically very celebrant, always trying to bring cheer to the world and show others that the drow do not have to be evil.
Ok, the half-drow cleric now has the original avatar I was using, and I guess this'll be my main.
WOW is it happy... o.O
I'm here for goodness sake.
I've read all this already, why are you yelling at me?
Hello people, Fate's wife here.
Here be Alias/Avatar for Rangerlady. ::sweeping bow::
Fate, where's my character sheet? ::frown::
Right here. Love the Kuo-Toa avatar, by the way.
Did you decide whether you were going to be a follower of Shaundakul or not? Were you still leaning towards Mielekki? I seem to remember you saying that you liked Shaundakul more, but I don't remember if you actually decided on that faith or not.
Uh, and thanks! It's almost a Murloc. ...::whistles::
Shameless...
Based on my e-mails with Nerak and Sham, I think we should be able to get things underway later this week. Nerak is going to be playing around with his spellbook and sending me the updated info pretty soon and I think all that's left for Sham is to wiki-fy his character sheet (which I can take care of when I get home today).
Also, Andante, on your character sheet, I see something in your equipment that looks like it says 'fishhook' but I wasn't sure if that's what you meant since I don't see any other fishing gear in the list. It would be kind of odd to just carry a hook around with no pole or line (but it would certainly be a creepy little character quirk that might disturb people just a little). I'm also waiting to hear what spells you plan to start out with in your prepared slots. I'll need that info to complete the online version of your sheet. Once I have that, you're done!
Righto. I need your email. I also need to purchase a couple items. Like... a fishing pole (I got a little distracted as I was shopping... oops).
Actually, I may already have your email, but if you don't receive anything from me within the next hour, assume I lied and give it to me. :)
Righto. I need your email. I also need to purchase a couple items. Like... a fishing pole (I got a little distracted as I was shopping... oops).
Actually, I may already have your email, but if you don't receive anything from me within the next hour, assume I lied and give it to me. :)
I don't have access to my home e-mail, but you should have my work e-mail address. If you don't, go ahead and send it to my home address and I'll look at it when I get out of work tonight. (I can't disclose my work e-mail address in a public forum or else I would.)
I sent it to your work address.
I sent it to your work address.
Did you now? 'Cuz... I'm at work... and I don't have it.
Sometimes the e-mail here is stupid like that, though. It'll probably show up tomorrow or some crap.
Hmm... well, or just gimme your home address...
So how does one Join, The game, are you interested in anymore players, I would like to play a Specialist Mage, or what ever the party needs, how do I get started and when,at all can I play in Cormyr.
Well, we've actually got the group all set up and ready to go, we're just waiting on a couple of character sheet polishings to be finished and then we'll get started. However, if you browse the forums, there may be other games starting that you can join. Simply post in the thread that you're interested and the DM will walk you through the creation process!
Fate, I'll try and get those spell updates and Anain's background to you no later than Friday night. I've got to DM tonight and won't have time to work on it until Friday evening.
Okay, thanks for the update! I'll wait to hear from you then and will probably kick this game off on Memorial Day. My wife is going to New York for 3 weeks but she's taking her laptop with her, so she should be able to pop in and take a look periodically.
Andante's cleric of Elistraee is up now.
Woot!
I need that last name to be Kirahel though, because aren't drow matrilineal? Besides, she was raised with her drow mother.
Woot!
I need that last name to be Kirahel though, because aren't drow matrilineal? Besides, she was raised with her drow mother.
Easily done. And yes, they are typically matrilineal.
Check your email. :P
Check your email. :P
My work e-mail or home e-mail? I can't check my home e-mail right now... cuz I'm at work.
...and I don't see anything in my work e-mail folder, but I did finally get your e-mail from YESTERDAY. See how the mail server hates me? It's practically palpable.
I sent it to your work address. But hell, I can post here. *copies and pastes from her email and deletes some useless stuff*
I was actually thinking precisely the same thing yesterday about the bow. The emphasis the clerics put on the Hunt implies that a bow---possibly even a magical one (eventually)---may be more appropriate to the character than a crossbow.
Also, a couple things. The clerics seem to put a greater emphasis on music than dance. Right now she has Perform for dance, but not for music. I think she also needs to have a couple points of perform going toward sing. So... can you transfer 3 points out of Heal and into Perform (Sing)?
Also, a couple things. The clerics seem to put a greater emphasis on music than dance. Right now she has Perform for dance, but not for music. I think she also needs to have a couple points of perform going toward sing. So... can you transfer 3 points out of Heal and into Perform (Sing)?
You only get one rank for 2 skill points since it is cross-class for you, so it doesn't make sense to transfer 3 points. Transfering 2 points would give you 1 rank, but I should think that you'll want to keep your Heal skill higher than ANYTHING as a cleric. I would recommend transferring one rank of your Perform: Dance to Perform: Sing. These are effectively 'flavor' skills for your character, so I wouldn't obsess too much about them.
Really, it sounds like you want to put together a bard/cleric. The cloistered cleric archetype is not really set up for that. The Lore ability is similar to bardic knowledge (in fact, it's exactly the same), but that's about where the similarities stop. We might want to consider a complete rebuild to get you closer to the character you want to play. If you took a single level of bard and 3 levels of cleric (regular cleric, not cloistered), you could still have a nice pool of skills to draw on but the skills that you are FOCUSED in (Heal, Knowledges, Spellcraft) all remain high. You get bardic knowledge (and can take feats to amplify the effectiveness of it since you won't be gaining a whole lot of bard levels over time) and still retain the ability to cast 2nd level cleric spells.
Hmm... I think you're right about that being the concept I'm aiming for... I think in order to be a priestess of Eilistraee she NEEDS to be able to dance and sing/play an instrument. Damn it though, I don't want to rebuild. :/
Would it be ok to work on this Friday? Or do you want to get it done sooner? Character history would remain identical; all that would change I guess would be the numbers...
Hmm... I think you're right about that being the concept I'm aiming for... I think in order to be a priestess of Eilistraee she NEEDS to be able to dance and sing/play an instrument. Damn it though, I don't want to rebuild. :/
Would it be ok to work on this Friday? Or do you want to get it done sooner? Character history would remain identical; all that would change I guess would be the numbers...
Yeah, it'd mostly be a numbers game, but not a terribly complicated one. We can handle it on Friday if you'd like. Of course, if you want to head out to my house again before then, I wouldn't exactly chase you off or anything. We're not likely be ready before Friday anyway since Nerak is still working on his spell stuff, so if you want to wait, I have no problem with it. Whatever works for you.
It's gonna have to be Friday. I promised a couple writers on writing.com I'd post my additions by tonight, and Marissa and one of our friends is dragging me out with them tomorrow. Hopefully there won't be TOO much booze, because I still will have to work Friday morning...
Oh! And Monday is Memorial Day. If I'm not mistaken, I don't have to work that day. How about you? We may all be able to game later Sunday night (or until folks who have to work go to bed, at which point the erst of us can simply hang out). Yay!
It's gonna have to be Friday. I promised a couple writers on writing.com I'd post my additions by tonight, and Marissa and one of our friends is dragging me out with them tomorrow. Hopefully there won't be TOO much booze, because I still will have to work Friday morning...
If you'd prefer, I can do it FOR you like I did for Ali's character. I'll do my best to allocate skill points functionally while still keeping the core of the character intact.
Since you seem to be making a more passive character with this concept as opposed to your 'Shadow Hunter of Selune,' you might want to consider changing your feats as well. The Divine Metamagic (Maximize) won't do you much good if you don't memorize any spells that deal damage (which I see you haven't currently) and Extra Turning is kind of unnecessary without Divine Metamagic.
We're seriously looking at a total overhaul here. I guess I didn't really think of all the ramifications of exchanging a Shadow Hunter for a tree-hugging hippee. Spell Penetration still fits, though. It helps when dealing with hostile drow if nothing else. I would also consider swapping your Intelligence and Charisma scores. You're going to have fewer skill points anyway, you might as well make your turning more effective (and also boost your meagre compliment of bard spells).
Obviously, once I make all the changes, I'll adjust the online character sheet and you can look at it to see if there's anything you want to change. We're still in the character creation phase of this whole ordeal, so there's no problem with reworking a character at this point. I'll also look into what kinds of prestige classes might be suitable to a cleric/bard of Elistraee so that you know what to aim for to maximize your effectiveness.
If you'd prefer, I can do it FOR you like I did for Ali's character. I'll do my best to allocate skill points functionally while still keeping the core of the character intact.
Hmm.... ok.
Since you seem to be making a more passive character with this concept as opposed to your 'Shadow Hunter of Selune,' you might want to consider changing your feats as well. The Divine Metamagic (Maximize) won't do you much good if you don't memorize any spells that deal damage (which I see you haven't currently) and Extra Turning is kind of unnecessary without Divine Metamagic.
Well, the reasoning behind the choice of spells I currently have memorized is that she is presently in the forest, where she's been her entire life, doing the same things she's done every day of her life. I don't imagine combat is something she's seen too incredibly often right at her doorstep, (although I think it could be interesting if it were... up to you :P) So her spell selection is more geared toward basic utility at the moment, rather than combat. However, she has a sort of... holy obligation... to combat evil. It just isn't as important as spreading "happiness", kekeke.
Well, the reasoning behind the choice of spells I currently have memorized is that she is presently in the forest, where she's been her entire life, doing the same things she's done every day of her life. I don't imagine combat is something she's seen too incredibly often right at her doorstep, (although I think it could be interesting if it were... up to you :P) So her spell selection is more geared toward basic utility at the moment, rather than combat. However, she has a sort of... holy obligation... to combat evil. It just isn't as important as spreading "happiness", kekeke.
You've got to bear in mind that the forests north of Cormyr are TEEMING with evil drow. T-E-E-M-I-N-G. I think it is absurd to think that she HASN'T seen combat by now. Even barring incursions by drow (who usually don't tempt fate by challenging the domain of the Purple Dragon Knights), there are still plenty of orcs, gnolls, and goblins roaming the woods (though the larger groups of them are quickly put down by patrolling PDKs). Your character has definitely seen combat. Probably several times.
You've got to bear in mind that the forests north of Cormyr are TEEMING with evil drow. T-E-E-M-I-N-G. I think it is absurd to think that she HASN'T seen combat by now. Even barring incursions by drow (who usually don't tempt fate by challenging the domain of the Purple Dragon Knights), there are still plenty of orcs, gnolls, and goblins roaming the woods (though the larger groups of them are quickly put down by patrolling PDKs). Your character has definitely seen combat. Probably several times.
Well then.... :D
When the bard-cleric is built, I'll redo her spell list to reflect that.
Only... isn't the King's Forest kinda to the north of Suzail, well within Cormyr??? Or am I crazy? Or both?
Only... isn't the King's Forest kinda to the north of Suzail, well within Cormyr??? Or am I crazy? Or both?
You're correct. The King's Forest is well within the borders of Cormyr and nestled in the crook of a mountain range.
Just because they're CALLED 'surface drow' doesn't mean they're incapable of using the Underdark to get past silly things like guardposts though. :D
And there's still all the various other bad things that live in the woods anyway.
I had a question, not so much to help establish this character, but just to help me understand surface drow in general. I know drow don't function too well in the light and I assume not all of them are able to take the feat that allows them to deal with that. Since they worship at night, what do they do during the day? Are they able to tolerate the sunlight well enough to hunt, fish, etc? Or do they hide in the shade, squint constantly, complain about the sunlight, or even adopt semi-nocturnal lifestyles, hunting and doing other everyday tasks at night?
All this wouldn't matter for my character, but I'm curious about how the other Dark Ladies live their lives...
(I'm also bored at work, in case you can't tell :P)
Are they able to tolerate the sunlight well enough to hunt, fish, etc? Or do they hide in the shade, squint constantly, complain about the sunlight, or even adopt semi-nocturnal lifestyles, hunting and doing other everyday tasks at night?
While they don't exactly COMPLAIN about the sunlight, it is true that most drow do avoid operating during the daylight hours. The vast majority of them DO develop the Daylight Adaptation feat to conquer their daylight blindness, but those who spent a long life beneath the earth before coming to the surface are often too accustomed to the darkness to adjust in such a way.
A drow without Daylight Adaptation is effecively blind when brought into an area that is as bright as daylight. They can let their eyes adjust, but even then they suffer penalties to just about everything. Most of the Dark Maidens in the camp are very nocturnal and those who are active during the daylight hours are either full-blooded drow who were born on the surface (and thus developed the feat) or half-breeds like your character.
Most of the Dark Maidens in the camp are very nocturnal and those who are active during the daylight hours are either full-blooded drow who were born on the surface (and thus developed the feat) or half-breeds like your character.
So during the daylight hours, the folks who are awake are probably busy scouting for threats, hunting, and taking care of other necessities, and the drow who don't do well in sunlight would be asleep except if the shrine came under attack?
So during the daylight hours, the folks who are awake are probably busy scouting for threats, hunting, and taking care of other necessities, and the drow who don't do well in sunlight would be asleep except if the shrine came under attack?
Pretty much. And I doubt the shrine itself gets threatened very often. The surrounding areas, maybe, but not the actual shrine itself. There would have to be some suicidal craziness going on in the head of someone who dared to take on a shrine of Elistraee in the middle of the woods without a small army.
Pretty much. And I doubt the shrine itself gets threatened very often. The surrounding areas, maybe, but not the actual shrine itself. There would have to be some suicidal craziness going on in the head of someone who dared to take on a shrine of Elistraee in the middle of the woods without a small army.
Jesus, how many clerics are there at a forest shrine?!
Pretty much. And I doubt the shrine itself gets threatened very often. The surrounding areas, maybe, but not the actual shrine itself. There would have to be some suicidal craziness going on in the head of someone who dared to take on a shrine of Elistraee in the middle of the woods without a small army.Jesus, how many clerics are there at a forest shrine?!
About half a dozen or so. Maybe 10. Drow live a freaking long time, though, and since the drow haven't been coming to the surface much until very recently (by drow standards), you can bet that the cleric who ESTABLISHED the shrine is probably still hanging around... and is probably level 12 or higher.
With this in mind, however, there probably isn't another shrine to Elistraee within 100 miles.
Drow live a freaking long time, though, and since the drow haven't been coming to the surface much until very recently (by drow standards), you can bet that the cleric who ESTABLISHED the shrine is probably still hanging around... and is probably level 12 or higher.
Hmm... in that case, should I change the character's background information a bit? Because I wrote that her mother, Alaunin, founded the shrine...
Drow live a freaking long time, though, and since the drow haven't been coming to the surface much until very recently (by drow standards), you can bet that the cleric who ESTABLISHED the shrine is probably still hanging around... and is probably level 12 or higher.Hmm... in that case, should I change the character's background information a bit? Because I wrote that her mother, Alaunin, founded the shrine...
No, that's not a problem. Her mother could be a few hundred years old.
The three-day weekend is nigh! Our game will be starting soon! I still need to puzzle out Andante's character re-write and I'm also waiting on Nerak's final spell selection info. Once I have that, I will wiki-fy the sheets and hopefully get the first post up on or before Monday. The campaign thread title will (obviously) be something along the lines of 'Echoes of Eternity.' Hooray!
The three-day weekend is nigh! Our game will be starting soon! I still need to puzzle out Andante's character re-write and I'm also waiting on Nerak's final spell selection info. Once I have that, I will wiki-fy the sheets and hopefully get the first post up on or before Monday. The campaign thread title will (obviously) be something along the lines of 'Echoes of Eternity.' Hooray!
Have you started the character rewrite yet? If not, I can stop being lazy tonight and help you before gaming lol.
The three-day weekend is nigh! Our game will be starting soon! I still need to puzzle out Andante's character re-write and I'm also waiting on Nerak's final spell selection info. Once I have that, I will wiki-fy the sheets and hopefully get the first post up on or before Monday. The campaign thread title will (obviously) be something along the lines of 'Echoes of Eternity.' Hooray!Have you started the character rewrite yet? If not, I can stop being lazy tonight and help you before gaming lol.
No, I haven't started the rewrite. My free time has been somewhat limited as my parents are moving and pawning stuff off on me and making me come pick it up. And also grocery shopping.
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Hey folks- I just realized I left my needed books at the house to complete my PC tonight. I'm stuck at work until tomorrow AM at best and will not have time to work on it this weekend due to work as well. I know eveyone is anxious to get the game started (me too!) and apologize if this causes any inconvienience. I don't want to delay the game so if you feel it necessary, feel free to replace me. Again, sorry.
Hey Nerak, it's no big deal. I've still got to work with Andante to do a total overhaul of her character too, so we've got some time. Plus, being a 3-day weekend (woo-hoo!) I won't be back to work until Tuesday anyway, so I probably won't get the starting post up until then anyway. Delays happen. Don't sweat it.
Just fyi, I emailed the prepared spell list to you earlier today. *nodnod* See you at gaming tomorrow, wherever that may be!
Okay, I haven't gotten Andante's character sheet corrected on the wiki site yet nor have I had a chance to check my e-mail for Nerak's character thus far. I have received Sham's character and I will try to get both his character and Andante's new-and-improved character wikified this evening. Depending on how work goes today, I may be able to get a campaign-opening post up this afternoon but, honestly, it'll probably have to wait until tomorrow. Maybe if I stop browsing the forums and actually do my work, I can get it done early and have a little free time later today.
Maybe.