Goblins of Pathfinder


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The write-up on goblins makes me very excited about the first adventure. Any chance we will see these critters in later adventures or will they remain the big fish in small ponds?

On a slightly related topic, there's something very familiar about Wayne Reynold's goblins.

Wait a minute...

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I want to see bugbears and hobgoblins, see how they get along with their new, meaner, bretheren.


Am I correct in my assumption that there will not be new stats for the new goblins? Though I remember reading somewhere on the boards that other monsters were getting restated up, but goblins weren't. Too bad, as I'm not overly fond of the current goblin stats.

New takes on hobgoblins, bugbears, gnolls, skum, and ogers would be greatly appreciated. Also, wouldn't have asked for it myself, but I'm looking forward to pics of the new giants. I think with better illistrations I would have used giants more often in the past.


Ross Byers wrote:
I want to see bugbears and hobgoblins, see how they get along with their new, meaner, bretheren.

Bugbears are so dull in D&D, I'd love to see them get a more fey/childhood nightmare flavor.

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Fraust wrote:
New takes on hobgoblins, bugbears, gnolls, skum, and ogers would be greatly appreciated. Also, wouldn't have asked for it myself, but I'm looking forward to pics of the new giants. I think with better illistrations I would have used giants more often in the past.

Skum? I didn't know anyone ever used them, even with aboleths.

The reason I didn't use more giants is that I have a tendency to find dwarven fighters or barbarians with ridiculous ACs at my tables. Giants cannot hit dwarves. Ever. +4 is a BIG DEAL for a race that usually has the armored/frontline role. For the one-off giant/troll/ogre enounter, this is a nice bonus for the PC in question, but on a dungeon full of them (Frost Giant Jarl, say) means the PCs have a huge advantage.

Now that I think about it, this might be something to consider when Paizo is giving the Pathfinder treatment to the core races.

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spamhammer wrote:
The write-up on goblins makes me very excited about the first adventure. Any chance we will see these critters in later adventures or will they remain the big fish in small ponds?

Definitely the former.


Whizbang Dustyboots wrote:
Ross Byers wrote:
I want to see bugbears and hobgoblins, see how they get along with their new, meaner, bretheren.
Bugbears are so dull in D&D, I'd love to see them get a more fey/childhood nightmare flavor.

I love Bugbears. Their one of th ebest races around to level up. Long after most of the Orc and Hobgoblins have mainly fallen by the wayside the Bugbear, with a few levels of Barbarian, remains a dangerous opposition.


Ross Byers...Exactly, no one ever uses skum (well, except Pett). They have quite a bit of potential though, as we fought one in D20 modern, ran by a very descriptive DM, and it was terrifying. One of the creepier adventures I've been in. They just need a proper redo of the art, the same background treatment James gave to the goblins, and we'll have a damn cool "new" monster.


I really miss Kobolds that look like Dogs, as opposed to these lizard things from 3.5. Kobold's speaking Draconic? It's absurd. Gotta change them back. maybe even go more Champions of Norath, or Shuikoden with them.

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I love Skum!

I must say, though, that I've evolved their timeline as a race so that most are far beyond the Aboleth society. They are much more similar, culturally and historically, to the Gith -- with the Aboleth taking the role of Ilithid. As such, the Skum in my campaign are a more developed culture and are far more interesting than just Dungeon crawl fodder in an "Aboleth as BBEG" campaign.

-W. E. Ray


spamhammer wrote:

On a slightly related topic, there's something very familiar about Wayne Reynold's goblins.

Wait a minute...

I was describing these guys to a friend and I said, "Think a dumb, but nasty, with a bit of Max from Sam & Max or Stitch from Lilo & Stitch look."

I'm so pulling out my Stitch voice for these guys; it fits them rather well.

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