Celestial Dragons mating with humans question


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If a Celestial Dragon in human form has a child with a human would it be a half-celestial/half-dragon/human

ill give the stats for the toon I'm working with and the changes i think would be added you can make the changes you think are needed to properly make this right for the rules.

The Character will be a level 4 monk if i can convince my gm to let me have a toon has a human father but a Celestial Dragon mother.

Human Half-Dragon Half-Celestial
Str: 12 + 8 + 2
Dex: 18 + 0 + 4
Con: 16 + 6 + 4
Int: 14 + 2 + 2
Wis: 18 + 0 + 4
Cha: 10 + 2 + 2

Would i gain all the racial stats of both, and would i get all the other abilities of both half-celestial and half-dragon.


The total of his abilities if i go with adding both templates would be
+5 Natural Armor, darkvision 60 feet, low-light vision; and immunity to sleep, paralysis, immunity to disease, acid, cold, and electricity resist 10, DR 5/magic and SR 17 and and immunity to fire as the mother is a celestial gold dragon.

It would have a speed 40ft, fly 80ft good.

It would also at this level have a breath weapon that can do 4d6 damage save dc 20, also it would be able to cast Protection from evil 3/day, bless, Aid, Detect evil.


wintersrage wrote:


Human Half-Dragon Half-Celestial
Str: 12 + 8 + 2
Dex: 18 + 0 + 4
Con: 16 + 6 + 4
Int: 14 + 2 + 2
Wis: 18 + 0 + 4
Cha: 10 + 2 + 2

So

STR 22
DEX 22
CON 26
INT 18
WIS 22
CHA 14

BAB +3, natural attack routine for +9/+9/+9. 1d6/1d4+6.

AC 27 just standin' around, 29 with protection up. Avg hp of 4d8+28 is 49 or so.

But then you've got the accoutrements:

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+5 Natural Armor, darkvision 60 feet, low-light vision; and immunity to sleep, paralysis, immunity to disease; acid, cold, and electricity resist 10; DR 5/magic and SR 17 and and immunity to fire.

The truth is that a dragon can't be a dragon and an outsider at the same time, so it can't give you half-dragon and half-celestial.

If your father was a celestial, it would give you half-dragon and half-celestial, but then you'd just be a half-celestial gold dragon whelp or a good outsider with the gold half-dragon template.

It's really up to your GM.


even if it was a dragon wit the celestial templete from the celestial planes.


wintersrage wrote:
even if it was a dragon wit the celestial templete from the celestial planes.

To get the celestial template, you need to be summonable with summon monster or planar ally.

If you're summonable with planar ally, you're an outsider.


but there are dragons from the celestial planes, there are extraplanar dragons from the draconomicon, look at the radiant dragon.


What about a god dragon, they have dragon HD and outside HD. What if my characters mother was the God Aasterinian.


wintersrage wrote:
but there are dragons from the celestial planes, there are extraplanar dragons from the draconomicon, look at the radiant dragon.

Then they're dragons. The dragon you pointed to is a dragon. It's not an outsider. Being from the good-aligned planes doesn't make you celestial-- it makes you extraplanar. You have to be a good-aligned outsider to give the half-celestial template. The fringe case for the "celestial" bestiary quick template is being either summonable by summon monster or planar ally. Dragons can be summoned by neither.

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What about a god dragon, they have dragon HD and outside HD. What if my characters mother was the God Aasterinian.

Then you would probably be a mythic half-celestial brass dragon, not a double-half celestial gold dragon human.


even if the dragon was the mother and the human was the father, how would you explan away the human side.


If I were DMing I would make you choose one or have you play an Aasimar. Why don't you take the half dragon template and see if you can quest for the celestial template? Or you could build Dante from DMC... But as a dragon instead of a devil... Or better yet, just make an Aasimar half dragon.


Umm... Where does it say they have to be summonable with a Spell?


Azaelas Fayth wrote:
Umm... Where does it say they have to be summonable with a Spell?
Quote:

Celestial creatures dwell in the higher planes, but can

be summoned using spells such as summon monster and planar ally. A celestial creature’s CR increases by +1
only if the base creature has 5 or more HD. A celestial
creature’s quick and rebuild rules are the same.

In the Bestiary, under templates.

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even if the dragon was the mother and the human was the father, how would you explan away the human side.

You can't be half-dragon and half-celestial with also being something else. You either end up a half-dragon celestial or a half-celestial dragon. This is like if an orc and an elf had children and had a half-orc elf child-- no, it's more like the half-orc elf had a child with a human and it was a half-elf half-orc human.

My mother is a mule and my dad is a tiger, so I'm a half-horse half-donkey tiger.


That just says they can be summoned not that they must be summonable.


God it's so simple, someone already poked at it earlier in the thread.

Take One Aasimar.

Add one half-dragon template.

Done. One Celestial (Aasimar) Half-Dragon Human.


Make either a Half-Celestial Human with Dragon sorc bloodline or Half-Dragon human with Celestial sorc bloodline. Done and done.

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