Ship Map


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A few months ago it was said that we would get a DDM scale poster map of a ship. we haen't heard anything else about it. it seems that adventure 3 would be the logical spot for it.
so, are we getting it- or must I sharpen something small, steel and lethal?

Paizo Employee Creative Director

Issue #141 has a four-panel poster map of the Sea Wyvern in it, at minis scale.

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James Jacobs wrote:
Issue #141 has a four-panel poster map of the Sea Wyvern in it, at minis scale.

What would be the dimensions for the Wyvern, overall length x overall width? In feet.

FH


Assuming its being run off of the Stormwrack stats for a caravel, it should be 20 feet wide, 60 feet long (deck, full tip to tip length closer to 75) with a draft of 10 feet and a deck 10 feet above the waterline.

Paizo Employee Creative Director

Yup; the Stormwrack caravel is indeed a good approximation of the Sea Wyvern's size. IIRC, it's about 75 feet long and 20 to 25 feet wide, with a main deck, upper decks at the stern and bow, a lower deck, and a hold.

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The Black Bard wrote:
Assuming its being run off of the Stormwrack stats for a caravel, it should be 20 feet wide, 60 feet long (deck, full tip to tip length closer to 75) with a draft of 10 feet and a deck 10 feet above the waterline.

Seems a bit small for a full-fledged expedition to the Isle of Dread. I was hoping for something around 100-150 ft long and 35ish ft wide with 3 masts, sorta like the Nixie but more combat outfitted.

Is Black Bard correct, James?
****damn, simultaneous posts!****
FH

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could I sub out the sea wyvern for a larger vessel? Something like THIS?
3 masts, 150'x35'. I am about 2/3s done building it and would like to use it for the Blue Nixie and the Sea Wyvern. Is there an logistical problems with using a larger vessel? Some ideas would be appreciated.

FH (Mad Sam Vane)


FH--Historically there were few ships that size in the Age of Sail--typically such a large ship would be built as part of a wealthy kingdom's naval fleet. (Stormwrack lists the Greatship as having a space of 150 by 40, so your dimensions are about right for such a ship, roughly comparable to the Spanish galleons that brought silver back from the New World.) A private trader like the Vanderborens would be much more likely to own smaller ships--at largest caravel-sized. Even the caravel in Stormwrack is a bit bigger than Columbus' flagship Santa Maria, IIRC. That's not to say you can't have such a large ship, and unless your players are into this sort of trivia they probably won't know the difference.


FH - Yes, it is big for historical accuracy, but it is what I will be using for the Wyvern. I'll also be using it as the Nixie, unless I can kitbash it to be about 1/2 the size.

Having a blast putting it together. Have the entire hull and deck done. I guess I need to think about doing the masts. Why do I think they are going to be a real b**** to do?


I'm using that model as well. I'm experimenting with magnetic paint (a double coat--the paint is basically just primer with iron shavings mixed in) under the flooring so props and figs will stick to the floors. I've got the lower deck done so far.

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I almost have her finished with only the sails and some of the decorative stuff left to do. Gods that boat is beautiful and BIG. 3' long from tib to tail, 7" wide, stands over 1'6" tall to the top of the masts. My wife is impressed but thinks I am crazy for making this. The ratlines look cool done in the transparencies also. I was thinking about trying to Kitbash something for the smaller ship also but haven't for a good floorplan yet. Any ideas or should I just use the poster map?

FH

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Fake Healer wrote:

My wife is impressed but thinks I am crazy for making this.

FH

Story of my life, man.

Sounds cool, though.

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Heathansson wrote:
Fake Healer wrote:

My wife is impressed but thinks I am crazy for making this.

FH

Story of my life, man.

Sounds cool, though.

I'll try to figure out how to post some pictures when I complete it and maybe some other dungeon pieces I've done. I may have to ask someone to throw them up on a site somewhere. I feel so lame when it comes to techie stuff.

FH

Liberty's Edge

Fake Healer wrote:


I may have to ask someone to throw them up on a site somewhere.

FH

naah....too easy...

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Your text decided to vacate the shaded box, you mangy, flea-bitten cur.

FH

Liberty's Edge

That's me...always thinking outside the box, fauxboy.


OK here's a thought.

This is a link to the Dundjinni User Forums. I ded a search on Ships.

This is a link to a post from someone who owns a print shop and has offered to print out 1" = 5' scale maps FREE, as long as you pay shipping.

The ship maps are in the user forums, so they are pretty much free content. There you go. Find a map of a ship you like and send away to have it ptinted for you.

This is my favorite


Yep, the Liralen is arguably the favorite of all ships on the DJ site, and for good reason!

I've got one on there as well, the Sanjeeda. I built it from the deckplans of an actual Indian dhow (of the same name) so it's fairly accurate on scale and such. I'll be happy to shot folks higher-res images if anyone likes it (the maps on the DJ forums are far frommax resolution).

Dark Archive

James,

Will the poster map of the Sea Wyvern do double duty for the Blue Nixie? I'm not running Savage Tide for a few months, and I'm curious if the ship's are roughly the same size.


Hmm, could probably kitbash that out. Nice work!

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