punkassjoe |
I've yet to see/buy the book, but I'm considering an Urban Ranger instead of a regular Ranger for my group's campaign. We spend the majority of our time in city though right now we're on the trail...I'm multiclassing as a Fighter/Ranger but I'm considering the Urban Ranger instead of the first level ranger. I found a REVISED version of the Urban Ranger here: http://www.openroleplaying.org/library/
and while I seem to like what they do (my dm already agreed with me that Gather information should be a class skill for my ranger), some of the minuses seem superfluous- such as Concentration and Survival. But then, I haven't read the Urban Tracking Feat. (which you get from the Urban Ranger anyway), I did draw up a Javascript character using the Javascript 3.5 Character Generator: http://www.pathguy.com/cg35.htm with Gather Information and Knowledge (local) as class skills. but kept it the same otherwise as the Urban Ranger option. I do like the Urban Skills instead of Wild Empathy, but I'm not so sure about Rapid Reload (I use a longbow for pete's sake) and the lack of Endurance that the Revised Urban Ranger has.
I've yet to see the original Urban Ranger, so please have patience with me so I can look it up today.
Thoughts on a more balanced "Urban Ranger"/Bounty Hunter type Ranger character would be greatly appreciated. (the PHB2 does have the Bounty Hunter path as a Ranger direction)
Fyi, my Elven Fighter/ranger meets or exceeds the stat requirements, and the favored enemy would be human.
Sebastian Bella Sara Charter Superscriber |
punkassjoe |
It's in UA. Here's a link to the SRD
http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/classes/variantCharacterClasses.htm#range rVariantUrbanRanger
so my suspicions were right, Survival and Track are lost to Gather Information and Urban Tracking...that makes more sense. Thank you.
still, about the wild empathy vs urban skill replacement in the REVISED Urban Ranger I provided?
I might add that coincidentally I'm looking at the Justicar (Complete Warrior's) or Bloodhound (Complete Adventurer's) as a prestige class prior to taking Cavalier. (we're doing a campaign where fighter's get bonus mounted feats) it's looking more and more like the Urban Ranger- unless it's the Revised- isn't as worthwhile since Track and Survival, as well as Enduarance are required for Bloodhound or Justicar (the Justicar is the MOST compatible with Urban Ranger and that's only if Track is taken as a feat).
Also since I have a trained mount, I didn't figure on taking an animal companion (I already know about Distracting Attack from PHB2)...maybe a dog, but one animal is enough to handle when it's a heavy warhorse.
Tome |
I might add that coincidentally I'm looking at the Justicar (Complete Warrior's) or Bloodhound (Complete Adventurer's) as a prestige class prior to taking Cavalier. (we're doing a campaign where fighter's get bonus mounted feats) it's looking more and more like the Urban Ranger- unless it's the Revised- isn't as worthwhile since Track and Survival, as well as Enduarance are required for Bloodhound or Justicar (the Justicar is the MOST compatible with Urban Ranger and that's only if Track is taken as a feat).
I think Urban Tracking is one of those feats that can be used in place of another for prerequisites. Like Improved Toughness and Midnight Dodge, Urban Tracking can probably be treated as the Track feat for prerequisites.
punkassjoe |
punkassjoe wrote:I might add that coincidentally I'm looking at the Justicar (Complete Warrior's) or Bloodhound (Complete Adventurer's) as a prestige class prior to taking Cavalier. (we're doing a campaign where fighter's get bonus mounted feats) it's looking more and more like the Urban Ranger- unless it's the Revised- isn't as worthwhile since Track and Survival, as well as Enduarance are required for Bloodhound or Justicar (the Justicar is the MOST compatible with Urban Ranger and that's only if Track is taken as a feat).I think Urban Tracking is one of those feats that can be used in place of another for prerequisites. Like Improved Toughness and Midnight Dodge, Urban Tracking can probably be treated as the Track feat for prerequisites.
I'm working it out with my DM, I'm taking the Revised Urban Ranger with survival as a class skill, since I took Track as my first feat. (his decision to add survival as a class skill, making my character more of a Suburban Ranger).
Thanks
BlackDiamond Owner - Black Diamond Games |
It might seem really obvious, but I re-worked the Urban Tracking 3.5 variant feat to Pathfinder for my group:
Urban Tracking Feat (Bonus)
Let me know if you see any problems with it.
Mosaic |
I'm playing a spell-less urban ranger in Council of Thieves right now and loving it. He's Mr. City-guy.