I thought that it would be nice to invent a class in which
you slowly develop your favorite dragon abilities (SR, wings, improved stats, breath weapon, energy resistance, damage resistance but also subtype vulnerability).
The class could be made so that at Epic levels you continue gaining more power in a linear way (improved DC to frightful presence, breath weapon, SR, energy resistance, natural armor bonus).
Also, it would be nice if you could get the half-giants' & goliath ability to be considered a large creature without actually being Large.
Some draconic feats could also complement the article, as well as abilities specific for each dragon type (please include gem dragon stuff)
It would be nice if you could provide an online addition to that article for epic progression in the dragon class.
Well, the dragon disciple prestige class sort of does this (see the DMG). The dragon monster classes sort of do this (see Dragon #320 and #332). The upcoming dragon king prestige class sort of does this (see Dragon #339).
Are those what you have in mind?
I have the DMG, dragon #320 & #332, but
-I am not too happy about the dragon disciple prestige class, as it has no spell resistance, no frightful presence and the ability to use once per day its breath weapon is a bit not-so-useful (or maybe I am just jealous about the complete arcane's warlock ability to unleash 9d6 of arcane damage per round); plus overall it has a strong warrior emphasis (being based on the half-dragon template) and it has a weak spellcasting ability (most people would take only 1 'wasted' level in sorcerer just to be able to enter the prestige class).
-The dragon monster classes, even if quite interesting, impose the use of non-humaniod races (I mean they are quadrupeds) and they change size every few levels. Plus not all dm's like to accomodate pure dragons in their campaign, they are not always made for dungeon crawling
What I had in mind is something more akin to a transformational class, less fighter-focused, where you slowly develop typical dragon abilities during 20 levels and you don't even change size (even though the Powerful Build racial ability of Half-Giants and Goliaths would be interesting to add). Plus it could also be taken by someone with the half-dragon template to improve his/her existing abilities (the abilities they have only improve if they have racial HD, so saving from its breath weapon at higher levels is far too easy). Furthermore, taking it a step further, you could have transformational classes for other monsters.
Just my two cents ;)
PS: Dragon King Prestige Class --> Dark Sun?
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What I had in mind is something more akin to a transformational class, less fighter-focused, where you slowly develop typical dragon abilities during 20 levels and you don't even change size (even though the Powerful Build racial ability of Half-Giants and Goliaths would be interesting to add). Plus it could also be taken by someone with the half-dragon template to improve his/her existing abilities (the abilities they have only improve if they have racial HD, so saving from its breath weapon at higher levels is far too easy). Furthermore, taking it a step further, you could have transformational classes for other monsters.
Ah, I see what you're asking for.
PS: Dragon King Prestige Class --> Dark Sun?
Indeed.
Rajaat - based on your descriptions, you obviously view this as a new base class that you'd like to see developed. I'll offer two ideas.
1) Races of Dragon is coming out in the near future. At GenCon, the folks from WotC said the book contained a new race that was essentially a transformation from one race into something else. From what they mentioned at GenCon, what you had on the starting side was pretty flexible - you could start as a human, elf, etc; and over time you would turn into this new race. Of course, they didn't provide details of what the new race was. However, even if this new race isn't a dragon, it would give you a guideline to start with to develop your own race that does turn you into a dragon-like creature.
2) Don't discount prestige classes. While the Dragon Disciple doesn't do what you want, it too offers you a road map towards developing a prestige class that handles the transformation the way you'd like. By making it a 10 level PrC, you have the ability to develop an Epic progression to ensure the character continues to grow.
Rajaat - based on your descriptions, you obviously view this as a new base class that you'd like to see developed. I'll offer two ideas.
1) Races of Dragon is coming out in the near future. At GenCon, the folks from WotC said the book contained a new race that was essentially a transformation from one race into something else. From what they mentioned at GenCon, what you had on the starting side was pretty flexible - you could start as a human, elf, etc; and over time you would turn into this new race. Of course, they didn't provide details of what the new race was. However, even if this new race isn't a dragon, it would give you a guideline to start with to develop your own race that does turn you into a dragon-like creature.
Let's see how this turns out.
2) Don't discount prestige classes. While the Dragon Disciple doesn't do what you want, it too offers you a road map towards developing a prestige class that handles the transformation the way you'd like. By making it a 10 level PrC, you have the ability to develop an Epic progression to ensure the character continues to grow.
I just thought that my idea could be of some interest as a variant to the existing half-dragon/dragon disciple thing that could be worth exploring, especially as a complement to Races of the Dragon.
Rajaat returns into _The Black_ *sigh*
PS: Dragon King Prestige Class --> Dark Sun?
Indeed.
Nice! Borys, I'm coming!!!
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I just thought that my idea could be of some interest as a variant to the existing half-dragon/dragon disciple thing that could be worth exploring, especially as a complement to Races of the Dragon.
Now, I don't know how you feel about your writing skills, but if you wanted to write this article (so it most closely matches your vision) then I heartily suggest you do so. Jason Bulmahn (make sure to get that "h" in the right place) at dragon@paizo.com is in charge of feature queries (as this would have to be).
Now, I don't know how you feel about your writing skills, but if you wanted to write this article (so it most closely matches your vision) then I heartily suggest you do so. Jason Bulmahn (make sure to get that "h" in the right place) at dragon@paizo.com is in charge of feature queries (as this would have to be).
Sounds like the right thing to do.
I thought that it would be nice to invent a class in which
you slowly develop your favorite dragon abilities (SR, wings, improved stats, breath weapon, energy resistance, damage resistance but also subtype vulnerability).The class could be made so that at Epic levels you continue gaining more power in a linear way (improved DC to frightful presence, breath weapon, SR, energy resistance, natural armor bonus).
Also, it would be nice if you could get the half-giants' & goliath ability to be considered a large creature without actually being Large.
Some draconic feats could also complement the article, as well as abilities specific for each dragon type (please include gem dragon stuff)
Alsa the 25th(I was just reading it now I cant remember the #) anniversery issue of Dragon Magazine features an article with the Dragonkith PrC