A few Questions


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I just have a few questions to ask. . .

~Can I make a True Name library that can research the true names of outsiders?

~In the epic level hand book the Vegeful Gaze of God spell has a Spellcraft DC of 419. . .does that mean that I must be at least level 416 to use it?


DragonLich wrote:

I just have a few questions to ask. . .

~Can I make a True Name library that can research the true names of outsiders?

~In the epic level hand book the Vegeful Gaze of God spell has a Spellcraft DC of 419. . .does that mean that I must be at least level 416 to use it?

Well, if were your DM, i'd say....

1. yes
2. what the deuce are you talking about? Why would you need to be level 416? There are plenty of ways you could use at, say, level forty or so. I remember those two solars in my old campain that killed eachother with it, and they were each around level 50.


Bloodhawke wrote:
DragonLich wrote:

I just have a few questions to ask. . .

~Can I make a True Name library that can research the true names of outsiders?

~In the epic level hand book the Vegeful Gaze of God spell has a Spellcraft DC of 419. . .does that mean that I must be at least level 416 to use it?

Well, if were your DM, i'd say....

1. yes
2. what the deuce are you talking about? Why would you need to be level 416? There are plenty of ways you could use at, say, level forty or so. I remember those two solars in my old campain that killed eachother with it, and they were each around level 50.

But it says in the Players Handbook that you can only have a skill that is 3 higher then your level. . .so if the spells DC is 419. . .it would be level 416 to use it right?. . .or can you just put all of you skill points into it. . .


DragonLich wrote:
Bloodhawke wrote:
DragonLich wrote:

I just have a few questions to ask. . .

~Can I make a True Name library that can research the true names of outsiders?

~In the epic level hand book the Vegeful Gaze of God spell has a Spellcraft DC of 419. . .does that mean that I must be at least level 416 to use it?

Well, if were your DM, i'd say....

1. yes
2. what the deuce are you talking about? Why would you need to be level 416? There are plenty of ways you could use at, say, level forty or so. I remember those two solars in my old campain that killed eachother with it, and they were each around level 50.

But it says in the Players Handbook that you can only have a skill that is 3 higher then your level. . .so if the spells DC is 419. . .it would be level 416 to use it right?. . .or can you just put all of you skill points into it. . .

that's the DC to cast. You don't need 419 ranks in it. You need to role 419 on a spellcraft check to use it.

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DragonLich wrote:

I just have a few questions to ask. . .

~Can I make a True Name library that can research the true names of outsiders?

~In the epic level hand book the Vegeful Gaze of God spell has a Spellcraft DC of 419. . .does that mean that I must be at least level 416 to use it?

Dragonlich, it's definitely up there, but I suppose with Epic Level modifiers to the Spellcraft check, a result of 419 is straining, but doable. Remember that modifiers added to the actual ranks can make this possible WAY before 400+ level.

Things like Epic Skill Focus, Skill Focus, and a really kick ass Intelligence modifier help.

I would love to know the math that allows a 50th-level character to make a DC 419 Spellcraft check, though. If hypothetically that character started at 1st-level with an Int of 18 (+4 modifier) and put all of its ability adjustment for levels into that ability (12 points for an Int of 30) and had a headband of epic intellect +12 (42 Int), took the feats mentioned above, and had Spellcraft maxed out at 53 ranks, then... that character would have a total modifier on its Spellcraft check of... 82. So on a d20 roll, the highest that character could get is 104. Even if you load up on mitigation factors (ELH pg. 91), I still have a hard time believing a 50th-level character can do it.

Without adding mitigating factors to lower the Spellcraft DC (and perhaps weaken the spell considerably), you would need to be a minimum of 315th-level to have even a hope of making the Spellcraft check for this spell. Very appropriate considering it deals 305d6 damage! AND 200d6 damage to the spellcaster.

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