I have a player that wants to play a Titan Mauler barbarian with the Thunder and Fang feat using an oversize earthbreaker and over size klar. I think that's illegal, but I can't put my hands on it. Can anyone care to point out the rules? And if he is right, what will be the attack penalty?
Thunder and Fang wrote:
Benefit: You can use an earth breaker as though it were a one-handed weapon. When using an earth breaker in one hand and a klar in your off hand, you retain the shield bonus your klar grants to your Armor Class even when you use it to attack. Treat your klar as a light weapon for the purposes of determining your two-weapon fighting penalty.
basing on that, the barbarian with the medium size earth breaker and klar is at -2/-2
once the barbarian/titan mauler reaches 2nd level which allows him to acquire the ability Jotungrib:
At 2nd level, a titan mauler may choose to wield a two-handed weapon in one hand with a –2 penalty on attack rolls while doing so. The weapon must be appropriately sized for her, and it is treated as onehanded when determining the effect of Power Attack, Strength bonus to damage, and the like. This ability replaces uncanny dodge.
If he uses the medium size earth breaker and klar, the penalties will still be -2/-2
If he uses the large size earth breaker and a medium klar, the penalties will be -4/-2?
(the weapon size rule states: "Weapon Size: Every weapon has a size category. This designation indicates the size of the creature for which the weapon was designed.
A weapon's size category isn't the same as its size as an object. Instead, a weapon's size category is keyed to the size of the intended wielder. In general, a light weapon is an object two size categories smaller than the wielder, a one-handed weapon is an object one size category smaller than the wielder, and a two-handed weapon is an object of the same size category as the wielder.
Inappropriately Sized Weapons: A creature can't make optimum use of a weapon that isn't properly sized for it. A cumulative –2 penalty applies on attack rolls for each size category of difference between the size of its intended wielder and the size of its actual wielder. If the creature isn't proficient with the weapon, a –4 nonproficiency penalty also applies.)
and the reason he can use a large earth breaker is because it's a 2h weapon but with a -2 penalty, coupled with Thunder and Fang which allows him to use it 1h
And if he uses a large earth breaker and a large klar, his penalties would be -4(-2 size, -2 TWF)/-4(-2 size, -2 TWF) or -6(-2 size, -4 TWF)/-4(-4 TWF because it's now an 1h weapon?)
can anyone point out the rules to refute him?