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Darksol the Painbringer wrote:
steve0105 wrote:

So what's your opinions on Free Archetypes so far?

I'm going to run a game where the kineticist won't have any combat benefits from the rule, since it barely ties in with anything. Two new players feel it's choice paralysis.
As for the barb he's going the decay route with dual weapon warrior with necksplitters which basically lets him go nuts on damage. (2 actions, if they hit it's a 12 flat damage anyhow from rage, not counting the weapon damage itself) with No Escape at Level 3 which also grants movement as a reaction.
This was an issue in my previous games as well where the barb (who used more or less this same combo but with Vicious Strike) and fighter was the only one doing crazy numbers in damage while the others took flavorful archetypes and felt left behind in combat at least, which let's be honest, is a big aspect.
It's the most accepted variant,, but would limiting it be a good idea? Would saying something like limiting the archetypes available be a good idea.... Any experienced GMs please help me!

I don't know how they are getting a class feat at level 3, because they only get a general feat, which can only get them a level 1 class feat if they are human ancestry via Natural Ambition, of which No Escape does not qualify. Free Archetype only gives you additional dedication/archetype feats at the same levels you would normally gain class feats (besides 1st level of course), so I'm confused how they are getting this option by 3rd level.

As for limiting it, our group only allows the free 2nd level dedication feat, which means players can either just take it for a free benefit (Acrobat dedication comes to mind; free scaling Acrobatics as a 2nd level class feat is pretty bonkers), or they can take an option and pick class feats/skill feats for levels where they feel like their original options are garbage. You can restrict it further and have it be based off of a profession (like Herbalist, or the aforementioned Acrobat), or limit it specifically to character...

i meant it as by this level they have all these feats, my mistake, not that specific feat at that level.


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I just read in the rules themselves that state:
You might restrict the free feats to those of a single archetype each character in the group has (for a shared backstory), those of archetypes fitting a certain theme (such as only ones from magical archetypes in a game set in a magic school)
But I think it's "me as a GM who can't say no" issue than the system.


So what's your opinions on Free Archetypes so far?
I'm going to run a game where the kineticist won't have any combat benefits from the rule, since it barely ties in with anything. Two new players feel it's choice paralysis.
As for the barb he's going the decay route with dual weapon warrior with necksplitters which basically lets him go nuts on damage. (2 actions, if they hit it's a 12 flat damage anyhow from rage, not counting the weapon damage itself) with No Escape at Level 3 which also grants movement as a reaction.
This was an issue in my previous games as well where the barb (who used more or less this same combo but with Vicious Strike) and fighter was the only one doing crazy numbers in damage while the others took flavorful archetypes and felt left behind in combat at least, which let's be honest, is a big aspect.
It's the most accepted variant,, but would limiting it be a good idea? Would saying something like limiting the archetypes available be a good idea.... Any experienced GMs please help me!


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SoulSherpa wrote:

I'm completely apathetic about this. I'm supposed to want this instead of Diablo, or Path of Exile, or Grim Dawn? Because of Pathfinder in the title and some icon skins?

Give me something that actually uses the PF2e ruleset instead of just branding. Like the Owlcat games, but without the janky min-max complexity that came with PF1e. I'll throw lots of money at it.

Okay.

I understand that an ARPG was what not many wanted. If you want to play the other games, go ahead, no one's stopping you.
This is a note of thanks from what seems to be a passionate dev, who's excited to do their thing.
Being apathetic is fine, but if you truly are, why bring this up here? There's different forums for that.
Let these people doing their thing celebrate their goal being worked on. If you aren't cheering someone's passion on, please don't put them down. Let them be.


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