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so for reasons that would take tons of writing, none of my players characters are capable or able to be decent kings. no one would like to live in cities ruled by people like them (even when some of them are good people, reason is mostly looks and lore of my own made world)

but still they all want to be kings (of coarse).
has anyone had something like this happen to them?what did you do or how did you make your players realize that they characters just couldn't be ale to be good kings and they can take some other leadership positions or lead from shadows, or do some big council of people who all lead the nation with democracy? (none of them like these ideas, doesn't fit characters and i understand that)

PS:i warned my players about this TONS of time before starting the AP and when making characters with them, they knew this was going to happen at some point.

i believe that this is the right place for this, sorry if its not.

i have been creating my fantasy world for some time already, but it just goes nowhere, for few months i have looked at my monitor, and only thing i have gotten is 5 encounters (no battle), 1 city and nothing else. i almost gave up today, almost. because today i realized how it all works, my friend made his character and its background already (the game SHOULD be ready in few weeks) and showed it to tome, he wanted me to include his town and short 70 word backstory to my world and campaign somehow. and then it sparked, and in just one day i made more out of his cliche small background than what i had done in months, i now have 3 full quests with multiple encounters and good story, 2 new towns and multiple quests in those towns. just like a flame cant start without the spark, i just cant make a quest or story without the little inspiration story.

now the flames have run out of burning material how ever, and i would really like if you guys would help me. i would really like you to just write some small things. here is my friends character background as example:

Djarcan is hard worker who has always aimed to top, he lived in small town called Garnania, until Silver dragon swoop over the town, burning everything down to last house. only the luckiest survived, including Djarcan and his uncle.
He swore that hi will find the Silver Dragon and end its life. after many years however, he has yet to carry out that quest to its end.

i have also started to read some of the books from nearby library, mostly poetry and similar stuff, hoping some of those snap at right place. there just isn't lots of fantasy stuff there so i hope some of you guys can help me, thanks.

we have had few pathfinder games already with my usual friend group that i play warhammer 40k and other stuff with. now today i just gave up at half a point because being GM for them is just too hard.

they lack imagination completely and have really bad memory, i seriously dont know how to advice them on how the game should be played. today we played hostage situation where fey was keeping one of their friends as hostage under water(using spells and stuff) and would only give him back if they go away and butcher nearby wood cutters or hush them away.

only things they could come up were killing the wood cutters or killing the fey. but they couldnt do them (wood cutters promised tons of money for killing the fey, fey would dispell the spells on their friend and kill him almost instantly if they tried to attack him) it was 1 hour of talking to the wood cutters and the fey, they counldnt understand why fey that has lived 200 years on same lake wouldnt want to leave even when it would die out side of it fast or why the wood cutters wanted wood from there even when it was lot more better quality tree than on other places.

all that g!+ d&&ned time i gave them some hints on what to do and like that, also used it to give them as much info about world that i could. but then i just gave up and said "f+$# it" and told them that they have s+*%ty imagination.

it shocked them when i told them what i would do in that situation and that they could do that. earlier in the game they had come agross a shady bridge, they could ACTUALLY LIE that there are nice trees there and that they wouldnt need to trouble the fey if they went there. hopefully the bridge would collapse because the wood cutters are stupid to all just rush through it with all equipment. meaning that they wouldnt be coming back.

could someone give me some advice on how to explain how the game works, how to use your imagination and how to play "in character" or how to make them use their imagination more?

so my players have decided that there must be something awesome on the location where the stag lords castle is, they said that its a place where they would build village or something so someone "Must have build home or something there". they will follow the thorn river through the forest (following the skunk river later) and will soon arrive there in game session or two.
now iam in little trouble, if they attack stag lord now they will die right away. so i had the though that they could join stag lord, with that they wouldnt die and i could push them to the right direction (away from the places of the second book)

so how could i do this? in what way could i make them join the bandits and avoid them attacking the bandits and killing them self? and how would i do it?

an i have no idea what to do

to start, this is my forst time DMing and my players are completely new to this game, i tld them that they are free to do what they want but every action has consequences.

we had nice little 3 player party ready, Half-Orc Barbarian, Goblin rogue and Aasimar Cleric. They all are really nice people and i was sure we will have awesome campaign about exploration. But everything changed when i said "in the distance you see Olegs Trading Post, What do you guys do?"

"i set up trap and steal s@%% from people"
"i go an hunt for some humies and eat them"
"i go kill some animals for food"

ok, not that bad, i rolled all rolls, they found human, killed him and looted, got some stuff from him. then they go to the Trading post.

and f****** burn it down, kill Oleg and his wife, eat their bodies, talk NPC that i created to join them on their journey (the NPC is blind, couldnt see all the s@~! the PCs did) and now they are off to meet the bandits they heard about.

so now i have no idea what to do, most likely they will join the bandits or something, also i have no idea what to do with the NPCs that had to come to the Trading post or the bandits that were supposed to attack there. i would really like if someone gave me some options about what to do