Due to the heavy amount of investigation involved in CC, would Lorefinder be a good fit?
I laughed when I read option A, because no, no they are not that clever! So I must pick option B sadly.
Well, as an update. I sent out an email to everyone letting them know the status of their kingdom and the issues. And that we would discuss how (or if) we would move forward in Kingmaker. I let them know it wasn't punishment, simply playing the game without pulling punches. One person has canceled and will not respond to any queries. And another one is being quite shirty in his replies.
I like both of your suggestions. I will shift their alignments (which will really only hurt the Paladin.) I will let them know that their people have ousted them, and that if they wish they can work for the new regimen; otherwise we will have to switch to a new AP. And my personality type HATES to leave a path unfinished!! I cannot take a break from the GM chair though. The only other player who would be willing to GM wants to run a home brew Star Wars, where he has changed the history of the Jedi. The other players have come to me said "no way." I do accept that part of this is on me, as GM I need to perhaps lower my expectations. However, I think Geraint hit the nail on the head, their maturity as players is lacking, and I think Kingmaker requires more seasoned players. They are all close to 30 (with the exception of one of the player's son, whom I give a lot of latitude since he is a boy.) They just have not really played before in a long running campaign. I am just stymied as to how to bring them along without a baseball bat! :)
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I am at a loss for how to continue. I don't want to tank their kingdom, but I did give them fair warning. Also, this is not the only time they have not cared what happened to their "subjects." When the owlbear came through at the end of book 2, they came back into town and laughed and made fun of the towns folk. They show a complete disregard for their people. One of the players uses the excuse that it is his character (a haughty elf who thinks all other races are inferior.) I am very frustrated with the players at this point. After the owl bear attack and their response I talked to them and expressed my concern for their actions. I do not expect them to play out of character, but I think they use that as an excuse for bad behavior. In fact, I don't think they are playing in character. They are playing as themselves. And while I think they are having fun, I am not certain I am. I am to the point of becoming the GM I never wanted to be, one that is out to beat them, if for no other reason than to teach them a lesson. And that is not a cool GM (in my opinion, no offense to those who are.) So my question is how to move forward?
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My problem is more story based, not rules. If you start altering an heirloom, an antique, is it still the same weapon? If I got an antique table from my great, great grandmother and then sanded it down, painted it purple and sawed the legs off, does it still have the same qualities? On the other hand, there have been stories (I remember one in the Forgotten Realms) where each time a weapon was passed down it gained a new trait. Something unique to the wielder. So I am unsure how to proceed. It doesn't help the player got in my face about it, even after I simply asked for a couple days to study on it. Any suggestions or thoughts?
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Thanks for the link Ernest, I am downloading as I type! And mighty Apsu, thank you for taking time out to tell me more of your ways. I will be sure to enlighten one squishy type sorcerer of your divine nature. Thanks for everyone's help!!
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The first is an odd little dwarf who loves to create things more than life itself. His latest invention requires black powder. Are there any rules or do any of the books cover this topic? I have been hesitant to allow it, but you know sullen and pouty dwarves can be! The other is a sorcerer with a draconic bloodline, who now wishes to bring the worship of Apsu to the people. I know there is a little on Apsu in the AP "Fortress of Stone Giants," because we are playing that right now. However, he is wanting far more detail than I have weaned out of that book. Is there any source with further detail of Apsu? He has mentioned wanting to find clerics or a codex for further study. |