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Jiggy wrote:

If you take the Trickery domain (for the Copycat SLA) and the Fate inquisition (for the Augury SLA), then your first cleric level qualifies you for MT all by itself (aside from the skill ranks, of course), regardless of race.

Similarly, the Divination (Scrying) specialist school for wizards (for the Send Senses SLA) is a race-agnostic way to qualify for the Eldritch Knight.

I'm trying to find a deity this would work with but trickery and fate are kind of an unlikely combo.

If you don't mind worshipping an evil god then there are lots of deities with trickery as a domain, but I don't think you can do that in PFS (maybe you can if your character is not evil, not sure about that). For neutral ones there are only Besmara and Calistria. For good there's the Halfling deity Chaldira Zuzaristan.

I don't have the list of inquisitions by deity but I doubt that many of the deities that provide the trickery domain also provide the fate inquisition. It seems like fate would be a lawful concept usually, and the trickery gods tend to be chaotic.

The part in the rule about inquisitions being available to clerics that says "(if appropriate to the character's deity)" would suggest that you have to be a cleric of a deity in order to take an inquisition, rather than being not dedicated to a particular deity as in:

CRB wrote:

If a cleric is not devoted to a particular deity, she still selects two domains to represent her spiritual inclinations and abilities (subject to GM approval).

you could use Sivanah a minor goddess of illusion she has trickery and magic as domains and that magic domain is good for augury if I remember correctly

You can only take one trait from each category, so no taking the same trait twice.

Is archivist the bard archtype or somthing else? If you end up planning for the esoteric training then you better talk it over with your GM so he can plan it in to the story in some way( i my self advice against using the boon things in built plans at they are Fiat things IMOP)

I saw that after the fact, I am working up a slightly different build that can ignore the need for the same trait twice

this is a link to the archivist

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ex/20051007a&page=3

Duderlybob wrote:

I'd recommend going with a combo of Oracle-Sorcerer/Bard, That way your casting stat for magic remains the same at CHA, and you can better focus your spending, make your spells more potent. It'd take more levels to get to mystic Theurge, but I think it'd be worth the effort.

Casting levels >> casting stat. Ignore this "advice".

the object of the build is to get to MT ASAP, the Archivist should give me the same stat for both classes it should fuse well

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ex/20051007a&page=3

the concept is for buffing, focus on illusions and summons

I was thinking that blinding ray was based on this spell,

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/b/blinding-ray

but precocious apprentice is a good alternative, and it would open up the various specialty schools again

I forgot, I would also pick up some channeling and a SLA that creates a copy of myself

I currently have a character I am planning to do a classic cleric 3/ wizard 3 mystic theurge build with and the DM commented that I didn't have any way to get early access. It has been years since I have played so my choices weren't really optimized.

I have been doing some reading and I was curious what a build like this might turn out to be.

stats given: 18, 16, 14, 12, 10 , & 10
max hit points (all levels)
max 1st level money
use traits, 2 both used for magic knack, the first one wizard the second one archivist

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ex/20051007a&page=3

race undecided, use gnome for the moment

level 1 wizard, specialty school illusion, feat: Precocious Apprentice (invisibility)

level 2 cleric, Deity Sivanah domain: trickery and trade one domain for Fate Inquisition (Ultimate Magic)

level 3 Archivist

level 4 Mystic Theurge

blinding ray is 2nd/3rd level on the divine lists but because it is an arcane calls it counts as arcane

fate inquisition gives augury a second level spell

these two would qualify my for Mystic Theurge, Archivist and Wizard would be the classes used

part of my question is how do the magic knacks fill in

another part is does the specialty school spell bonus work with precocious apprentice

and would my spell list/spell like abilities look something like this:

dancing lights (gnome)
prestidigitation (gnome)
ghost sound (gnome)
speak with animals (gnome)
wizard cantrips
1 - 1st level wizard +1 specialty school +1 high int
1 - 2nd level wizard (precocious apprentice) + 1 specialty school
blinding ray (specialty school illusion)
cleric orisans
1 - 1st level cleric +1 domain (disguise self) +1 high wis
augury (from fate inquisition)
archivist orisans?
2 - first level archivist (divine) spells +1 high wis

thanks for reading