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Gauss wrote:

Here is the author's intent on shaman wild shapes:

Link

James Nelson wrote:

Michael Grimm wrote:

In the APG Druid Shaman entries, their wildshape is modified as follows:

Quote:
Wild Shape (Su): At 6th level, a [type] shaman’s wild shape

ability functions at her druid level – 2. If she takes on the
form of a [type], she instead uses her druid level + 2.
What does this +/- modify? Does it modify how long the ability lasts or the level of the ability you can use?

Thank you.

Both.

As in, levels 1-5 you get no wild shaping.

At 6th level, you can use wild shape as if you were an 8th level druid if you turn into a (bear/eagle/etc.), lasting 8 hours, Huge to Diminutive, as beast shape III, up to 3 times per day.

You can turn into any other kind of animal as a 4th level druid, lasting 4 hours, Small or Medium, as beast shape I, only 1 time per day.

The times per day overlap, so you could turn into a (totem animal) 3/day, or into some other kind of animal 1/day and a (totem animal) 2/day.

- Gauss

That's a way simpler way of handling the uses per day than what I had in mind. And thanks for posting the link. I was seconds away from clicking "submit post" to ask for one.


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xebeche wrote:
Delaying Wild Shape until 6th is also frustrating, which in turn delays Natural Spell (feat) to 7th level. In some ways I regret not going with a straight up Druid. I've progressed through the hardest part now and am ready to live life as a level 6+ level Saurian Shaman =D

Does the Saurian Shaman archetype actually delay Wild Shape? I originally read it as giving Wild Shape at 4th level as normal and then modifying the way it functions when the druid hits 6th. I can see it going either way though. Has there been an official clarification on this?

On a related thought: In what way, specifically, does Wild Shape's function change based on druid level, as modified by Saurian Shaman? For a default druid, level seems to modify duration, uses per day, and the level of Beast Shape(and others) spell imitated. Does this mean that a Saurian Shaman who turns into a dinosaur uses a higher level of Beast Shape(seems obvious), keeps the form 2 hours longer per use(also seems obvious), and gets an extra use per day(not so clear)? If so, does that mean that a one time shift into any non-dino/reptile burns an extra use?(a druid 2 levels lower has 1 less use per day)