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Diego Rossi wrote:
Trokarr wrote:
“You are considered proficient with this weapon, which acts in ALL WAYS as a masterwork weapon typical of its type” masterwork weapons do not require an SR check. No SR check or save are listed in the spell description. I think these points strongly indicate that no SR check is allowed.

"ALL WAYS as a masterwork weapon" and "As a force effect,"

Masterwork weapons aren't force effects. So the description contradicts itself. Not a rare event.

Is there anyway to obtain a definitive answer from Paizo?


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Firebug wrote:

I'd say it more mimics Flame Blade/Gozreh's Trident/Holy Ice Weapon/Desperate Weapon/Hedging Weapons rather than Spiritual Weapon.

Same 0' range, min/level, effect: melee weapon of some sort.
Flame Blade/Gozreh's Trident are SR:Yes and no save, the others are SR:No and no save. Hedging Weapons has neither listed either.
That it doesn't have SR or a Save would have to be intentional.
Spiritual Weapon actually deals force damage, not weapon damage and strikes like a spell.
Force Sword is probably a good comparison. It is the same level as Instant Weapon, but has some advantages, so it makes sense that Instant Weapon would different advantages. Force Sword is an Evocation(Force) that starts off as a +1 weapon up to +3, can be handed off to someone else (or thrown) and cannot be attacked except by specific spells, but has SR:Yes. Instant Weapon is a conjuration(creation)(force) that can be any masterwork weapon, but has 20 hardness(can be attacked) and can't be dropped or given away. It makes complete sense from a balance point of view that it ignores SR.

Firebug - I agree that it lends more towards Icicle Dagger than Spiritual Weapon but I was hoping there is a rule that states 'if it is not listed then it doesn't apply' type of clarity.


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Ruzza wrote:
You're looking for the first edition rules forum. Someone here may know the answer, though.

Thank you for the assist Ruzza


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Question:

Does Instant Weapon bypass SR?

Basically the Saving throw and Spell Resistance entries are non-existent. Was this on purpose?